Advanced billiard room game

[Reggieraft]

So I know all the basic rules of the game and had no trouble with solving it until a few 'days' ago. When they introduce squared into it I could still figure it out, but now it just gets more ridiculous (it seems).
Are there hints in the game (like for the basic rules) so I can find out how to further solve these more advanced ones? Or is it just trial and error, or a skill issue? (I'm not a mathematician)

[Orgrider]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheLastDesperado:

it's actually the colours themselves that apply to multiplying/dividing etc.

Where those colours are is the order of operation.

oh. OH!
Up until this point, the colours have always been in the same place,

I think a slight tweak to the non-instructions of having the function symbols on the chalk boards be in colour would be very helpful for players that aren't particularly math inclined.

[Forblaze]

I wrote a guide that tries to detail all of the rules

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3463345045

I'm on day 80 and have yet to find one of these that I haven't been able to solve.

[puppypetter1776]

What are you supposed to do if your answer is a negative number? I'm so lost when my answer is negative and just start brute forcing

[Austruck]

I kinda started just randomly guessing once I got the WAVY LINES in the middle/bull's eye. I was doing pretty well with the squares and diamonds in the middle.

But then the wavy lines... First two wavy lines, then as many as six (two sets of three wavy lines). At that point I was annoyed. The last one I did (before I got the 40 puzzles trophy) had NINE puzzles to solve before the dartboard opened for me! NINE of these obnoxious things just to get one silver keys (plus the trophy).

It's become like the world's most annoying mini-game. Strangely, though, once I got the trophy, the puzzles went back to the basics and were easy again.

[bell jar]

the game does explain all these rules, somewhere! somewhere math is studied, maybe...

[Slime Q. Slimedog]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von puppypetter1776:

What are you supposed to do if your answer is a negative number? I'm so lost when my answer is negative and just start brute forcing

If the final answer you're coming up with is negative, I think you've just done something wrong. Negative numbers may come up during the process, but I think the final result is always a positive number from 1 - 20.

Sometimes the order of operations gets switched up, so you might be missing that? Also if there's multiple operations at the same level linked to a square/diamond, you do all of those operations before applying the squaring/diamonding.

[Frankie Bag o' Tricks]

Addition > Teal
Subtraction > Yellow
Multiplication > Pink
Division > Purple

Bullseye operations: square - result is squared, diamond - digits are reversed, wavy lines - round to the place value equal to number of pairs of lines e.g. 2 wavy lines = round to ones place, 4 wavy lines = round to tens place, 6 wavy lines = round to hundreds place
Order of operations goes from nearest to bullseye to furthest
Two segments in the same ring of the same color means you do the operation first with one number, then the other number
Bullseye color indicates at which point in the equation you use the bullseye operation, and if the above rule applies to the bullseye as well then you do the bullseye operation for each result
Segments that are not completely filled in are 1/3 of the number

I was able to math my way through all 40 of these puzzles and none of them were as hard and/or annoying as many people make them out to be.

[rumpelstiltskin]

just upgrade it and it'll always be a single addition-only puzzle

[Roan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Frankie Bag o' Tricks:

Addition > Teal
Subtraction > Yellow
Multiplication > Pink
Division > Purple

Bullseye operations: square - result is squared, diamond - digits are reversed, wavy lines - round to the place value equal to number of pairs of lines e.g. 2 wavy lines = round to ones place, 4 wavy lines = round to tens place, 6 wavy lines = round to hundreds place
Order of operations goes from nearest to bullseye to furthest
Two segments in the same ring of the same color means you do the operation first with one number, then the other number
Bullseye color indicates at which point in the equation you use the bullseye operation, and if the above rule applies to the bullseye as well then you do the bullseye operation for each result
Segments that are not completely filled in are 1/3 of the number

I was able to math my way through all 40 of these puzzles and none of them were as hard and/or annoying as many people make them out to be.

I'm on day 43 now and I've understood most of the rules but I have one today where the first order of business is to divide 1 by 3 which like... I've dealt with negatives before but if we're getting into fractions now I'm about to reset the game and do the Break Room upgrade where it's just basic addition each day.

[DragonDaddy]

My dumb self didn't take a screenshot on my PC, so help me understand this one if possible. Square in the center (not diamond), light blue on 1, 2, and 3 on the inner ring, second ring is yellow for 20, third ring is purple for 8, fourth ring is blue for 1. Somehow that all equaled 9? I don't even know what that formula would look like

[Slime Q. Slimedog]

1+2+3 = 6, 6^2 = 36
-20 = 16, / 8 = 2
2 + 1 = 3, 3^2 = 9

[zoe (•̀ㅅ•́)]

i would also love for someone to explain why the dartboard just had the solution it did because i feel like the answer should be SO obvious but it just… wasn’t correct??

- had the six ~ lines in the center (it was also pink if it matters? i’m guessing it must which is why i’m struggling here…)
- innermost ring was a blue 10
- second ring was pink 6
- outer ring was purple 20

i don’t understand why this wasn’t just (10 x 6) / 20 = 3, but the answer was 5? no dart board guides i’ve looked at have mentioned the center color mattering for the ~s so i’m stumped. tia!

[podge112]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Juicer Mcgavin:

call me crazy but the bullseye isnt a square, but just represents the number 60. a bullseye in most dart games counts for 60 points. try it next time you run into the puzzle it works every time i swear

haha wtf darts game you playing where the BULLEYE is 60 POINTS WAHAHAHA

[Handful_of_Dust]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von puppypetter1776:

What are you supposed to do if your answer is a negative number? I'm so lost when my answer is negative and just start brute forcing

If your answer is a negative number, you've made a mistake somewhere.

[Handful_of_Dust]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von zoe (•̀ㅅ•́):

i would also love for someone to explain why the dartboard just had the solution it did because i feel like the answer should be SO obvious but it just… wasn’t correct??

- had the six ~ lines in the center (it was also pink if it matters? i’m guessing it must which is why i’m struggling here…)
- innermost ring was a blue 10
- second ring was pink 6
- outer ring was purple 20

i don’t understand why this wasn’t just (10 x 6) / 20 = 3, but the answer was 5? no dart board guides i’ve looked at have mentioned the center color mattering for the ~s so i’m stumped. tia!

The wavy lines mean: You need to round the number to a specific precision. Two wavy lines (1 top and bottom) mean you round to the nearest whole number, so 5.4 would become 5, for example. Four lines (two on top and bottom) mean you round to the nearest 10, and six lines means you round to the nearest 100.

Knowing that, the way you solve this one would be: Start by adding 10, for the blue ring (0 + 10 = 10), then multiply by 6 because of the pink ring (10*6=60), then round to the nearest 100 because of the wavy lines (60 -> 100), and finally divide by 20 for the purple ring (100 / 20 = 5).

Oh, and the bullseye color definitely matters, because the color tells you when you should do the operation indicated by the icon on the bullseye. In your example, you do it after the multiplication step because the bullseye was pink.