Help with translating Erajan

[OrangeClown]

I'm currently trying to translate the note found in the tomb after lighting candles that's written in Erajan. My best shot at transcribing and translating is below.

Transcription:
Oreldajiris,
Ulelddau, uleldnai, uleldmora.
Oruleigifteldhew oriss. Newdau uldareile.
Nevdau eldareilu. Ajelbid ulheed eldlor: Uloddiris.
Hewsinclairlu. Hewepsenlu... Forget uldein inn.
Uldjorjeari... Uldarei ovissfennvo. Uldeinjorovo.
Oreraja. Orissnevarei.
Lorja eldris,
Uldjora

My literal translation:
Toward my first [unknown],
I will my day, I will my night, I will my [unknown].
Toward I will me gift my house toward south. New day I will future lack of myself.
New day my future I won't. First I [unknown] I will head my word: I will [unknown] [unknown].
House Sinclair I won't. House Epsen I won't... forget I will [unknown] north.
I did name [unknown]... I did future toward south Fenn (grand?) away. I did [unknown] away.
Toward [unknown] last. Toward south new future.
Last word my [unknown],
Your [unknown]

A more natural English translation:
To my eldest [son/daughter?],
My day, my night, my [unknown].
To you I gift my house/lands to the south. Tomorrow I will die/kill myself.
Tomorrow I will be dead. But first I will ask that you heed my word: I/you will [unknown] daughter/son.
Don't forget House Sinclair. Don't forget House Epsen. Forget [unknown] north.
I named [unknown]... Your future is south in Fenn. Your [unknown] away.
Towards the end of an era. Towards a new future.
Farewell my [son/daughter].
Your [father/mother]

Any help with the [unknowns] or any mistranslations I might have done would be very helpful!

[LuLeLo]

I think the tone of the message is not exactly right

For example
Uldarei oviss fennvo:
Uld-arei ov-iss fenn-vo

Uld??-future towards the south, away from fenn
(this takes into context clues that the writers is at the mansion, with eraja to the south)

You seem to have found a definition for uld and eld - where did you find those?
(also mora is earth/planet)

[OrangeClown]

Originally posted by LuLeLo:

I think the tone of the message is not exactly right

For example
Uldarei oviss fennvo:
Uld-arei ov-iss fenn-vo

Uld??-future towards the south, away from fenn
(this takes into context clues that the writers is at the mansion, with eraja to the south)

You seem to have found a definition for uld and eld - where did you find those?
(also mora is earth/planet)

Ohhh, is mora from the mora jai puzzles? Do you remember/have the text from where you saw that?

For uld and eld, I’m working with the theory that the first two are the “I will/I won’t” from the school whiteboard, while “d” is a modifier. I’ve tentatively labeled it as a possessive for el/le (so my/your) but I’m not sure with ul - I think I’ve tentatively put it as a past marker, but I’m nit very confidant on that.

I’m putting together a guide for all of the translation stuff I come across, so I’ll credit you for mora! Thanks!

[Blodwin]

I had interpreted ul/lu as you or 'you are' and 'you aren't' although looking at my notes I can't actually see why that is, oops. 'd' being a modifier for past is SO interesting - it's used so often it must be a modifier of some kind.

Is 'mora' definitely earth/planet - I thought 'mora jai' was one of the countries/realms?

[Doombringer]

mora is world
The 4th grade classroom has 2 globe maps.
ETTSPHERE - 3rd Era - ORINDIA - with Nuance, Oridina Aries, Arch Aires, Eraja
ORRSPHERE - 3rd Era - MORAVEN (erajan for old world) - with Corarica, Mora Jai, Verra

[Blodwin]

Actually funnily enough literally right after I posted that comment I was looking at the map and put two and two together with the world 'moraven.' Thank you!

Assuming I am correct about 'ul/lu' that makes the second sentence,

"You are my day, you are my night, you are my world"

[Blodwin]

My translation so far:


Ov-eld-aj-iris - To my first [love?]
Ul-eld-dau, ul-eld-nai, ul-eld-mora. - You are my day, you are my night, you are my world.
Ov-ul-el-gift-eld-hew ov-iss. - To you I will gift my house to the south.
Nevdau uld-arei-le. - Tomorrow your future lacks me. (Tomorrow you will miss me?)
Nevdau eld-arei-lu. - Tomorrow my future lacks you.
Aj-el-bid ulheed eldlor: Ul-odd-iris. - First I bid you heed my word: You [?] [love?]
Hew-sinclair-lu. Hew-epsen-lu... Forget uld-ein inn. - House Sinclair lacks you. House Epsen lacks you. Forget your [?] North (Or, "you are not Sinclair, you are not Epsen?")
Uld-jor- jeari... - Your name [??]
Uld-arei ovissfennvo. - Your future is to the south away from Fenn.
Uld-ein-joro-vo. Your [?] [?] away.
Ov-era-ja. Ov-iss-nev-arei. = To [?] last. To the South a new future.
Lor-ja eld-iris. - Last word my [love]?
Uldjora - Your [?]


I have taken 'd' to be possessive, so el = me and eld - my/mine. Similiarly ul = you and uld = your/yours.

[SapientSloth]

This is a letter from Clara to Mary, so I'm fairly certain Iris = child , maybe daughter .

Uloddiris = Ul odd iris = You are an odd child
I assume Ein = home .
Uld Jor Je Ari = Your name is Je Ari. There are two people in the royal family with this name. Je Ari Yenna has a bust in the Foyer and someone else is mentioned in a newspaper snippet. Maybe this is part of a greater plot.
I found a memo teaching me that Jora = Mother, so I assume Joro = Father.
Ov era ja = Maybe toward the last era, or literally toward Eraja.
Lorja = Goodbye, as Ajlor = Hello

Good luck with further exploring. :)

[amoe06]

Originally posted by SapientSloth:

This is a letter from Clara to Mary, so I'm fairly certain Iris = child , maybe daughter .

Uloddiris = Ul odd iris = You are an odd child
I assume Ein = home .
Uld Jor Je Ari = Your name is Je Ari. There are two people in the royal family with this name. Je Ari Yenna has a bust in the Foyer and someone else is mentioned in a newspaper snippet. Maybe this is part of a greater plot.
Small correction to ovissfennvo: Iss = north, not south.
I found a memo teaching me that Jora = Mother, so I assume Joro = Father.
Ov era ja = Maybe toward the last era, or literally toward Eraja.
Lorja = Goodbye, as Ajlor = Hello

Good luck with further exploring. :)

Where did you find the memo about jora? reading the letter myself, jor means name so i assumed adding the a/o was similar to the “d being a modifier” in “eld” and “uld” etc.

I also think I confused myself, i grabbed a notebook paper and wrote down the note so I could have it for reference later, and I believe I read it wrong, writing the “Ov” at the start of some words as “Or”

The letter makes much more sense using “Ov” as towards and I got stumped for a minute lol

[Rawles]

I think I've almost cracked it - thanks to the guidance from this thread and the classroom tips.

Words translated:
El

• Translation: I / Me
  
• Possessive: Eld (translates to "mine")
  
• As a prefix: Elverb (translates to "I will verb)
  
• As a suffix: verble (translates to "I won't verb)

Ul

• Translation: You
  
• Possessive: Uld (translates to "yours")
  
• As a prefix: Ulverb (translates to "You will verb)
  
• As a suffix: verblu (translates to "You won't verb)

Hew = house
Dau = day
Nai = night
Arei = Future
Iris = Child

My interpretation of the letter:
To my first child,
You are my day, you are my night, you are my world.
To you, I gift my house to the North. The start of your future without me.
The start of my future without you. First, I bid you to heed my word: You are [???] child.
Not House Sinclair. Not House Epsen. Forget your [???]
You are Je Ari. Your future is to the North, away from Fenn. Away from your father.
Towards a new era. Towards the North’s new future.
Goodbye my child,
Your mother.

I might be way off but I'm wondering if Mary isn't actually an Epsen or a Sinclair, but related to Je Ari Yenna, and a different family?

[SapientSloth]

Originally posted by amoe06:

Where did you find the memo about jora? reading the letter myself, jor means name so i assumed adding the a/o was similar to the “d being a modifier” in “eld” and “uld” etc.

I found it on a Blue Tent memo in one of the later classrooms.

[hannahthebeef]

Originally posted by SapientSloth:

This is a letter from Clara to Mary, so I'm fairly certain Iris = child , maybe daughter .

Uloddiris = Ul odd iris = You are an odd child
I assume Ein = home .
Uld Jor Je Ari = Your name is Je Ari. There are two people in the royal family with this name. Je Ari Yenna has a bust in the Foyer and someone else is mentioned in a newspaper snippet. Maybe this is part of a greater plot.
Small correction to ovissfennvo: Iss = north, not south.
I found a memo teaching me that Jora = Mother, so I assume Joro = Father.
Ov era ja = Maybe toward the last era, or literally toward Eraja.
Lorja = Goodbye, as Ajlor = Hello

Good luck with further exploring. :)

Looking at the maps in the grade 4 class north = inn and south = iss

[Wolffeparke]

Does anyone have an idea on the meaning of Yenna ? I'm trying to decode the meaning of Herbert's Erajan postcard, in the end he signs off with Lorja Yenna, Ajlor Lune, meaning "Last word (Yenna), first word water" I assume it might be a password or smth

[SapientSloth]

Originally posted by hannahthebeef:

Looking at the maps in the grade 4 class north = inn and south = iss

Oh shoot, you're right!

[SapientSloth]

Originally posted by Wolffeparke:

Does anyone have an idea on the meaning of Yenna ? I'm trying to decode the meaning of Herbert's Erajan postcard, in the end he signs off with Lorja Yenna, Ajlor Lune, meaning "Last word (Yenna), first word water" I assume it might be a password or smth

I think it just translates to Goodbye land, hello water. Or something similar.

[Doombringer]

Je Ari Yenna is a person, statue in the Foyer.