[SPOILERS] 2 Paintings in Each Coordinate (Study Puzzle)

[Daphonic]

So the Main Hall is FACE ACE = F being the Letter out. I can't figure out any of the ones i'm finding. Like one was a Tiger and some kind of Lamp or Dish?

IF W# #OUNT S##L# G#TES EIGHT DATES CRACK EIGHT SAFES

I - F - 00 - W - 04
05 - O -U - N - T
S - 11 - A - L - 14
G - 16 - T - E - S
E - I - G - H - T
D - A - T - E - S
C - R - A - C - K
E - I - G - H - T
S - A - F - E - S

1 = Chief - Chef = I
2 = Flight - Light = F
3 = Wheat - Heat = W
4 = Paint/Earth - Crate?
5 Crate? - Chart?
6 = Boat - Bat = O
7 = House - Hose = U
8 = Crown - Crow = N
9 = Plant - Plan = T
10 = Spine - Pine = S
11
12 = Paint - Pint = A
13 = Flan - Fab = L
14 = Plane - Gate/Door?
15 = Grain - Rain = G
16
17 = Planet - Plane = T
18 = Stage - Stag = E
19 = Coast - Coat = S
20 = Tube - Tub = E
21 = Pilot - Plot - I
22 = Tiger - Tier = G
23 = Chart - Cart = H
24 = Tent - Ten = T
25 = Card - Car = D
26 = Coat - Cot = A
27 = Stage - Sage = T
28 = Fire - Fir = E
29 = Sand - And = S
30 = Crow - Row = C
31 = Tier - Tie = R
32 = Road - Rod = A
33 = Clock - Lock = C
34 = Peak - Pea = K
35 = Plane - Plan = E
36 = Stairs - Stars - I
37 = Bridge - Bride = G
38 = Bath - Bat = H
39 = Cart - Car = T
40 = Dessert - Desert = S
41 = Pray - Pry = A
42 = Face - Ace = F
43 = Pine - Pin = E
44 = Stag - Tag = S

[TheLastDesperado]

I do want to kind of get rid of this thread quickly, because I think even the title could spoil the surprise of even finding this puzzle (I had no clue until the Study myself), but I will say one more thing;

There is a cheat mode to find the letters. Although it's tricky. If you manage to draft the Workshop, it will literally just tell you the missing letter of that room. If you look on the workbench opposite the contraption maker, you will see a stone slab with a chisel next to it. And on that stone slab is the letter.

[DrBoop!]

Originally posted by Forblaze:

Originally posted by DrBoop!:

the only one i could never figure out, which i don't see anyone else mentioning unless i'm blind, is 04

Create and Crate was my solution

"Create" really feels like a stretch for that picture lol, but it makes sense

[PenBot]

Originally posted by Oahkery:

First off, your 31 is wrong. Not sure if you just put tie/time in the wrong spot, but that's not the letter that should be there.

For the rest, here are clues that don't give them away completely and then the answers if you just want that.

For 22, the tiger one--Clue: What type of cake is made with several levels?. Answer: tiger/tier, for a G.

For the match one, 28--Clue: What sort of tree is it?. Answer: fire/fir for an E.

For 29, the ampersand--Clue: What does ampersand mean?. Answer: sand/and for S.

For 34, the mountain and peas--Clue: What is the top of a mountain called?. Answer: peak/pea for K.

41 with the crowbar--Clue: What do you do with a crowbar?. Answer: pray/pry for A.

And 44 with the buck--Clue: What's another name for a buck?. Answer: stag/tag for S.

From what people have been saying I think the image combos can appear in different locations in different games, for example my Spine/Pine appear in a different place from the one mentioned but it still represents the same letter, eg a different S in the answer

[Draco18s]

Also pretty sure that any given location can have different picture combinations show up.

Create/Crate was one of the last ones I figured out (with help!)

The stalk of grass and match was the other one that just confounded me for a while and it turned out my guess was right (paired with the Create/Crate and derping on the letter left me with a pair that made no sense).

Solved the whole letters part of the puzzle and have a clue that is useless (I already figured out the last four lines myself, thanks, now I just need to find three of the remaining safes and figure out which of the sixteen or so dates the game has in it goes to which one).

[A1KMAN]

16 is coast-cost = a and 19 is coast-coat = s

[Badgerlord]

This is what I have written down in my notes:


Chief Chef = I
Rod Road = A
Stairs Stars = I
Coast Cost = A
House Hose = U
Boat Bat = O
Clock Lock = C
Plane Plan = E
Tiger Tier = G
Flight Light = F
Spine Pine = S
Fire Fir = E
Dessert Desert = S
Planet Plane = T
Paint Pint = A
Peak Pea = K
Pray Pry = A
Plane Pane = L
Coast Coat = S
Pine Pin = E
Tier Tie = R
Plant Plan = T
Chart Cart = H
Stag Tag = S
Stage Sage = T
Crown Crow =N
Coat Cot = A
Cart Car = T
Pilot Plot = I
Flan Fan = L
Crow Row = C
Bath Bat = H
Tube Tub = E
Wheat Heat = W
Card Car = D
Bridge Bride = G
Grain Rain = G
Tent Ten = T

[Silvan]

14 is Plane - Pane

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

5 is R (crate/rate)
11 is M (time/tie)

You've got all of them now, yeah?

[br00f]

here are the ones you're missing

4 = CREATE/CRATE - E
5 = CRATE/RATE - C
11 = TIME/TIE - M
14 = PLANE/PANE - L
16 = COAST/COST - A

completed message:
IF WE COUNT SMALL GATES EIGHT DATES CRACK EIGHT SAFES

[BlueRaja]

I thought 3 was "fir/fire" giving the wrong answer -_-

[Swede]

Originally posted by Daphonic:

Like one was a Tiger and some kind of Lamp or Dish?

I settled that answer to be Tiger/Tier.

The worst part about all this work is that the "clue" you get from this is a bad clue, very misleading.

[Akari_Enderwolf]

Originally posted by br00f:

here are the ones you're missing

4 = CREATE/CRATE - E
5 = CRATE/RATE - C
11 = TIME/TIE - M
14 = PLANE/PANE - L
16 = COAST/COST - A

completed message:
IF WE COUNT SMALL GATES EIGHT DATES CRACK EIGHT SAFES

wtf does it mean "small gates"? shouldn't the saying go "small gains" the finished message confuses me so much

[Steelflame]

Originally posted by Akari_Enderwolf:

Originally posted by br00f:

here are the ones you're missing

4 = CREATE/CRATE - E
5 = CRATE/RATE - C
11 = TIME/TIE - M
14 = PLANE/PANE - L
16 = COAST/COST - A

completed message:
IF WE COUNT SMALL GATES EIGHT DATES CRACK EIGHT SAFES

wtf does it mean "small gates"? shouldn't the saying go "small gains" the finished message confuses me so much

It's very much intentional what it says.

For more total info.

If you count small locked gates as a safe, there is 8 "safes" that you can unlock.
All of said safe codes follow viable date formatting, be in MM/DD or DD/MM. So one "month" digit and one "day" digit. So for example, 06-21 or 21-06. ALL of said gates/safes are date-locked. That being your main/only hint to solve some of them.

Furthermore

Some of the safe codes can be found out by counting "small gates" to find said date formatted safe codes.


Notably, for basically every single safe, if you know these rules, you can solve the safe with info only within the room. For the gates, one gate needs info found elsewhere, and the other is solvable by figuring out the only possible valid solution that obeys the rule. Info found elsewhere can help you solve some of said puzzles easier, but they are technically solvable purely with info found in the room if you know the painting hint.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Swede:

Originally posted by Daphonic:

Like one was a Tiger and some kind of Lamp or Dish?

I settled that answer to be Tiger/Tier.

The worst part about all this work is that the "clue" you get from this is a bad clue, very misleading.

absolutely not misleading at all.

the most obvious one reveals the format pattern.
all except one have clues about what to enter, using that pattern.
one of them you have to solve with no clue except what fits pattern.

and the hardest one has the logic for the solution not in the room at all, but it is solvable via brute force as the data you have to parse is in the room and there aren't that many options.

[astragem]

Originally posted by DrBoop!:

Crate/rate is what i determined for 05 as well. the only one i could never figure out, which i don't see anyone else mentioning unless i'm blind, is 04

even knowing its E i can't think of 2 words that would have an E difference based on the pictures

Create/Crate ♥