so, [i]is[/i] the ending too political?

[rumpelstiltskin]

as one of the notes says, the ending of "red prince" is probably too political. sounds like it might be true? close-minded red prince flipping to blue?

[Forblaze]

It seemed pretty political in the context of the "red court" being a political entity in the real (game) world. Like it's saying that people that support them are just ignorant of the world would support blue if they just opened their minds a little.

[HealthBar]

I'm not a native English so I had some trouble understanding the ending cutscene. Maybe it's time to paint the right-wing politicians in blue? I did understand the 'open only in the event of inheritance' envelope, but am still not sure how the creation of Room 46 connects to the story of a red prince.

[OrangeClown]

In-universe? Absolutely. The reading that I personally got was that the Mom couldn't share her rebellious double life with her son because her son was too brainwashed by their incredibly authoritarian/fascist nation. But by going through the manor and learning about their actions would be enough for the son to break through the propaganda and either understand or even join in with the resistance.

[Doombringer]

There is a story in the nursery and master bedroom.
The master bedroom has note about how the ending was changed.
When you reach room 46 you get a cut-scene with a version of this story with a different ending...

[rumpelstiltskin]

i mean, i saw the ending, and it did seem unnecessarily political to me (up to that point i had been almost surprised to find it agenda-free), so just wanted to confirm.

[DrBoop!]

Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:

i mean, i saw the ending, and it did seem unnecessarily political to me (up to that point i had been almost surprised to find it agenda-free), so just wanted to confirm.

are you talking about political in game? or political as relates to real life?

if you're talking about in game, i mean the story revolves around factions politics and the protag growing up in it so i yeah it's political in that sense

if you're talking about as relates to real life, uh seems a bit of a stretch. there's a lot of instances where red and blue oppose each other, and red is often chosen as the more 'oppressive' faction and blue the 'open' one, partly due to some colour theory. The chosen colors also help it with even some of the simple things such as Blue Prince -> Blueprints. I don't really think it's this games fault that political groups have co-opted certain colors for their own representation.

[Thane_Ragnar]

Depends on where you live I guess. In the US blue are the Democrats when I remember right but in my country blue refers to the very far right.

So you see whatever you want to interpret into it ..

[atlas]

The game doesn't seem to anything to do at all to real life politics, and I've gotten pretty far into the game beyond the credits. Maybe it'll change, but if so it changes much further than most people will get.

[jazgalaxy]

Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:

i mean, i saw the ending, and it did seem unnecessarily political to me (up to that point i had been almost surprised to find it agenda-free), so just wanted to confirm.

I hate to have to say this, but if a fictional story with pretty basic anti-fascist morals starts making you feel like it's crowding your personal politics, it might be time to look at your buddy and ask the question, "are we the baddies?"

The fascists are disappearing people and editing books with redacted information until they have entire pages blacked out to clearly make the text say something it wasn't intended to say.

This reminds me a bit of when there was a large but short dust up over people complaining about Star Wars Episode 3 because they felt like Palpetine was supposed to be a commentary on George Bush and the Iraq War despite the fact that it was a pre-written extension of a story that was created in the 1970s.

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

Perhaps worth noting that blue in the game is apolitical.
Blue is not the opposing party of red - it represents belonging to no party.

I took the message that changing from red to blue is about shaking off dogma and becoming openminded to different beliefs and systems.
In that sense, I think it is topical but not specific to any one nation.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

In this game's case the "red" and "blue" aren't really associated with any real world politics, it's just a metaphor for becoming more open-minded and self-reflective in your own beliefs, creating a new path of your own.

[rumpelstiltskin]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

In this game's case the "red" and "blue" aren't really associated with any real world politics, it's just a metaphor for becoming more open-minded and self-reflective in your own beliefs, creating a new path of your own.

so what makes you so sure, considering that red and blue are real-world colors of "conservatives" and "liberals"?

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:

so what makes you so sure, considering that red and blue are real-world colors of "conservatives" and "liberals"?

From the game: "blue was proposed as an ideal replacement as it has no political ties"

[rumpelstiltskin]

Originally posted by Lactose Intolerant Volcano God:

Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:

so what makes you so sure, considering that red and blue are real-world colors of "conservatives" and "liberals"?

From the game: "blue was proposed as an ideal replacement as it has no political ties"

just because it says that in the game (where btw?) it doesn't mean it wasn't intended as a political statement outside.

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

It's a line in one of the books.

You're bringing your politics into a game. We all carry our past experiences and associations with us. Red may have a particular meaning to you, but in case you didn't realise, the world is bigger than the USA. In my country, the blue party is more conservative than the red party.

The game tells you what red and blue means in the gameworld. If you choose to ignore that and ignore the game's message, that's up to you.