Amazing Puzzle Game

[Heaphaistos]

This Game is absolutely amazing, It's such a unique take on a puzzle game. I don't understand people complaining about the RNG or exploration, they're either lazy or just not in the proper mindset. If you go into this game thinking it going to be an easy, regular, linear experience, you will be 100% disappointed. This game will ask you a lot of brain juice, so if you don't like thinking & taking your time, this game is not for you.

The Mindset

This game is not your regular puzzle game, where you complete Step A and then go to Step B and then go to Step C. This is far from a linear experience where everything is served in the right order. Blue Prince has so many puzzles, secrets, and lore to discover; it requests you to act as a detective. You need to take notes, to take pictures, to make links between certain puzzles, and to test different theories. You always have something different to do in this game, and this is why it's amazing.

Like any good detective, create a board and start tracking your discoveries.

The Exploration & RNG

Again, if you go into the game with the mindset of linear experience, you will be disappointed. This is where this game shines: you don't have to complete every objective in an established order. Every day is different: you can find an answer to a puzzle, you can find new pieces of information, you can learn information about a puzzle that you were stuck, you can make future days easier, you can prepare some rooms for future tests, you can complete a puzzle, you can find a new puzzle, and more. Someday you will get stuck, and it's alright because later you gain access to multiple options to control your RNG. Every puzzle has a set solution. If you can't complete X puzzle, then go do something else to advance your progression for future days.

But again, Blue Prince has so many things to discover that it's kind of impossible to get nothing out of a day since you have so many objectives to complete. I'm at 20 hours of play, and I'm still finding new things, new puzzles to figure out, new rooms, and new parts of the lore.

In short, people who say there's nothing to do or can't progress because of RNG are kind of hard trolling, or the game is just not for them.

The resource management makes this game even better since you have to think before you do anything. The bad players will be punished easily, and the good players will know how to make the best of what they have. Also, the best part is that you have some permanent upgrades to make your days easier.

I can't wait to discover more about the story.

[🅶anesa (печалька)]

Developer log back in. You're licking too deep.
The game is the success of the advertising budget.
The same kind of boring stuff. You're waiting for the stars to converge and the only option conceived by the developers will come out of a great randomness.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por wildcardbitches:

same with pool and pump room, security room and utility room, etc. There are no puzzles in this game. The games has notes that tell you what to do and you have to takes notes and hope RNG is nice so you can do it.

You legit can change the rarity of the room, later making those rooms spawn every time.
Not only that but if you found the book about the boiler room, it tell you how it work and how you can almost gurantee a room next to it. Every puzzle/secrets has note related to them. if you want I can give you some spoiler or you can search depeer in the game for those clues.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

Escrito originalmente por wildcardbitches:

same with pool and pump room, security room and utility room, etc. There are no puzzles in this game. The games has notes that tell you what to do and you have to takes notes and hope RNG is nice so you can do it.

Not a reason for take 90% on opencritic

Can you please get out if you are just complaining without any examples?

[WeeCapo]

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

Not a reason for take 90% on opencritic

Can you please get out if you are just complaining without any examples?

What example u want? The game is booring, is to slow in any real progress, u navigate this house without any significant lore or things to do.. no real puzzle, no real story, no suspance.. graphics is too simply.. and this after 5h and half of playing it.. If (if) the game has some significat (or interesting) content, pacing is still completely wrong..

Next the are some QOL absence like there isn't any icons for locked doors or that u can't save a session before quit..

But, u work for Ray Fury?

[NorionV]

Nah, the RNG-to-content ratio is too high, and not enough ways to control the RNG.

I like the game overall, but it would be better if you had way more control over the RNG. Especially as you get deeper into the game. At a certain point, you're just walking through rooms and waiting for the right stuff to appear, because it doesn't matter how much I manage my resources if I don't draw the right stuff at the right times in the right places.

That is not a great pairing for a puzzle game, which is supposed to be about logic and deduction, not gambling.

Would be solved with a bunch of extra meta upgrades to pad you on the way up.

[功夫kappa]

I agree with everything you've said about the artistry, craft, and passion that went into making this game, and the results are truly lovely and fun to play.

But RNG undermines the puzzle solving/mystery premise at every turn.

This mansion would have been better off as a fixed unit with rooms that shift on their own, with the player having resources to "pin" rooms in place between runs to help mitigate the drafting process.

The codes and puzzles would have been better off being varied depending on the specific variables of each independent run, things like date codes could change based on run date, etc.

The strategic elements like Coat Check, Mail, and Library often lack relevance unless you get lucky enough to find an upgrade disk that happens to let you improve their functionality. On this note, it is nice to see that the upgrades are permanent and not run specific. The game needs more of this.

In general, the game needs more of teh roguelike progression to maintain efficacy between runs to mitigate the RNG and bring exploration closer to the centre of the story than luck.

[NorionV]

Escrito originalmente por 功夫kappa:

I agree with everything you've said about the artistry, craft, and passion that went into making this game, and the results are truly lovely and fun to play.

But RNG undermines the puzzle solving/mystery premise at every turn.

This mansion would have been better off as a fixed unit with rooms that shift on their own, with the player having resources to "pin" rooms in place between runs to help mitigate the drafting process.

The codes and puzzles would have been better off being varied depending on the specific variables of each independent run, things like date codes could change based on run date, etc.

The strategic elements like Coat Check, Mail, and Library often lack relevance unless you get lucky enough to find an upgrade disk that happens to let you improve their functionality. On this note, it is nice to see that the upgrades are permanent and not run specific. The game needs more of this.

In general, the game needs more of teh roguelike progression to maintain efficacy between runs to mitigate the RNG and bring exploration closer to the centre of the story than luck.

Oh, the pinning is a nice idea. Let me pin a number of rooms to specific locations for tomorrow or something, and you can keep them pinned or move the pins around, perhaps.

The RNG would just be more interesting if we had more control over it. There's not enough meta to counter the RNG, which is an important balance in these kinds of games.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Can you please get out if you are just complaining without any examples?

What example u want? The game is booring, is to slow in any real progress, u navigate this house without any significant lore or things to do.. no real puzzle, no real story, no suspance.. graphics is too simply.. and this after 5h and half of playing it.. If (if) the game has some significat (or interesting) content, pacing is still completely wrong..

Next the are some QOL absence like there isn't any icons for locked doors or that u can't save a session before quit..

But, u work for Ray Fury?

Ok sure... Slow to do any real progress? Unless you can't read or look around with your eyes, you can progress every single day. why? Because there's clue legit everywhere and so many things to complete.
No lore? Are you even reading? Do you realize how many points in this house don't make sense in reality because of how weird the events are? No real puzzle, what are you on bro, for real, at this point you are legit just a troll.

Any icons for locked doors? This is part of the aspect of ressource management, like I said " The bad players will be punished easily, and the good players will know how to make the best of what they have."

And I agree with the saving mid-game, that would be a nice addition.

But basically, what I'm reading is: "Oh no, the game doesn't give me the answer right aways, well I'm not going to use my brain I need to think." This is an exploration puzzle game if you don't like thinking and taking your time on puzzles, why the F are you playing a puzzle game?

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por NorionV:

Nah, the RNG-to-content ratio is too high, and not enough ways to control the RNG.

I like the game overall, but it would be better if you had way more control over the RNG. Especially as you get deeper into the game. At a certain point, you're just walking through rooms and waiting for the right stuff to appear, because it doesn't matter how much I manage my resources if I don't draw the right stuff at the right times in the right places.

That is not a great pairing for a puzzle game, which is supposed to be about logic and deduction, not gambling.

Would be solved with a bunch of extra meta upgrades to pad you on the way up.

This game gives you more options the more you progress to control your RNG, not only that but you have clues everywhere that tell you how to find some room or try to force them. You are asking for meta upgrades, and i can tell you there's a lot.

[NorionV]

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

What example u want? The game is booring, is to slow in any real progress, u navigate this house without any significant lore or things to do.. no real puzzle, no real story, no suspance.. graphics is too simply.. and this after 5h and half of playing it.. If (if) the game has some significat (or interesting) content, pacing is still completely wrong..

Next the are some QOL absence like there isn't any icons for locked doors or that u can't save a session before quit..

But, u work for Ray Fury?

Ok sure... Slow to do any real progress? Unless you can't read or look around with your eyes, you can progress every single day. why? Because there's clue legit everywhere and so many things to complete.
No lore? Are you even reading? Do you realize how many points in this house don't make sense in reality because of how weird the events are? No real puzzle, what are you on bro, for real, at this point you are legit just a troll.

Any icons for locked doors? This is part of the aspect of ressource management, like I said " The bad players will be punished easily, and the good players will know how to make the best of what they have."

And I agree with the saving mid-game, that would be a nice addition.

But basically, what I'm reading is: "Oh no, the game doesn't give me the answer right aways, well I'm not going to use my brain I need to think." This is an exploration puzzle game if you don't like thinking and taking your time on puzzles, why the F are you playing a puzzle game?

It's not just a puzzle game, and I think that's the problem people are having. It has too many layers of RNG and not enough control over the RNG.

[NorionV]

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Escrito originalmente por NorionV:

Nah, the RNG-to-content ratio is too high, and not enough ways to control the RNG.

I like the game overall, but it would be better if you had way more control over the RNG. Especially as you get deeper into the game. At a certain point, you're just walking through rooms and waiting for the right stuff to appear, because it doesn't matter how much I manage my resources if I don't draw the right stuff at the right times in the right places.

That is not a great pairing for a puzzle game, which is supposed to be about logic and deduction, not gambling.

Would be solved with a bunch of extra meta upgrades to pad you on the way up.

This game gives you more options the more you progress to control your RNG, not only that but you have clues everywhere that tell you how to find some room or try to force them. You are asking for meta upgrades, and i can tell you there's a lot.

This is a falsehood. The RNG gets much worse, so even if it does give you a bit more control, it's not enough.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por NorionV:

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

This game gives you more options the more you progress to control your RNG, not only that but you have clues everywhere that tell you how to find some room or try to force them. You are asking for meta upgrades, and i can tell you there's a lot.

This is a falsehood. The RNG gets much worse, so even if it does give you a bit more control, it's not enough.

Falsehood? Sure give me some example. I'll be glad to give you all the answers on how you can control your RNG. This game has a lot of progression (28h total) I'm still finding new upgrades to make it to the true ending.

[WeeCapo]

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

What example u want? The game is booring, is to slow in any real progress, u navigate this house without any significant lore or things to do.. no real puzzle, no real story, no suspance.. graphics is too simply.. and this after 5h and half of playing it.. If (if) the game has some significat (or interesting) content, pacing is still completely wrong..

Next the are some QOL absence like there isn't any icons for locked doors or that u can't save a session before quit..

But, u work for Ray Fury?

Ok sure... Slow to do any real progress? Unless you can't read or look around with your eyes, you can progress every single day. why? Because there's clue legit everywhere and so many things to complete.
No lore? Are you even reading? Do you realize how many points in this house don't make sense in reality because of how weird the events are? No real puzzle, what are you on bro, for real, at this point you are legit just a troll.

Any icons for locked doors? This is part of the aspect of ressource management, like I said " The bad players will be punished easily, and the good players will know how to make the best of what they have."

And I agree with the saving mid-game, that would be a nice addition.

But basically, what I'm reading is: "Oh no, the game doesn't give me the answer right aways, well I'm not going to use my brain I need to think." This is an exploration puzzle game if you don't like thinking and taking your time on puzzles, why the F are you playing a puzzle game?

Ok, u are payed by someone.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por 功夫kappa:

I agree with everything you've said about the artistry, craft, and passion that went into making this game, and the results are truly lovely and fun to play.

But RNG undermines the puzzle solving/mystery premise at every turn.

This mansion would have been better off as a fixed unit with rooms that shift on their own, with the player having resources to "pin" rooms in place between runs to help mitigate the drafting process.

The codes and puzzles would have been better off being varied depending on the specific variables of each independent run, things like date codes could change based on run date, etc.

The strategic elements like Coat Check, Mail, and Library often lack relevance unless you get lucky enough to find an upgrade disk that happens to let you improve their functionality. On this note, it is nice to see that the upgrades are permanent and not run specific. The game needs more of this.

In general, the game needs more of teh roguelike progression to maintain efficacy between runs to mitigate the RNG and bring exploration closer to the centre of the story than luck.

Again, if you go in with the mindset of a linear experience, this game is not for you. You don't have to complete X puzzle because this game offers you a ♥♥♥♥ load of puzzles & secret, if you try to force everyday 1 specific puzzle you will get 100% stuck, this is not how this game work.

Varied code would make this game way too tedious and an actual real RNG Hell.

Coat check, Mail & Library are legit super important to the game, what are you talking about? I don't want to spoil anything, but you will need to use those rooms if you want more progression for certain puzzles.

[Heaphaistos]

Escrito originalmente por WeeCapo:

Escrito originalmente por Heaphaistos:

Ok sure... Slow to do any real progress? Unless you can't read or look around with your eyes, you can progress every single day. why? Because there's clue legit everywhere and so many things to complete.
No lore? Are you even reading? Do you realize how many points in this house don't make sense in reality because of how weird the events are? No real puzzle, what are you on bro, for real, at this point you are legit just a troll.

Any icons for locked doors? This is part of the aspect of ressource management, like I said " The bad players will be punished easily, and the good players will know how to make the best of what they have."

And I agree with the saving mid-game, that would be a nice addition.

But basically, what I'm reading is: "Oh no, the game doesn't give me the answer right aways, well I'm not going to use my brain I need to think." This is an exploration puzzle game if you don't like thinking and taking your time on puzzles, why the F are you playing a puzzle game?

Ok, u are payed by someone.

Ok, u are a troll. Bring some real argument to the table so we can talk, otherwise, get out and go cry somewhere else.