Saving Notes, suggestion

[Culain]

I understand that we're supposed to be playing this game with a pen and notepad and I am, I have about 7 pages double sided filled with random notes of every room and things I see.

My problem is all these notes and books I'm finding in game, that's a lot of info to write down and none of these notes gets saved anywhere, I don't see them in the library. So if I want to reread them I have to either revisit the room or take pictures, so now I'm taking pictures of every single page and note, and I'm cycling though an extensive gallery of over 100 pictures now.

This is actually getting really stupid because nearly every game I have ever played has had some codex menu option where I can reread all the files from the menu and even see my collection of found files. Now I'm playing a game based on information and the game is artificially making it more difficult, the puzzles are already complicated enough, I get to a puzzle room, oh damn what was that book I read in that last run it said something about this, damn it I have to redraft that room it was in and go back there again, and of course the room doesn't show up again, run over.

I don't even know if I'm even finding all the notes because there doesn't seem to be any place where they're recorded. For all i know I may be missing a critical note in a room I wrote off a while ago as complete.

Please add to the library or menu, a compendium of all the notes you've found, maybe sort it by room.

[PersonalC0ffee]

The game does not save notes for you. You need to do that on your own. I recommend lots of typing, screenshots, and handwriting in a physical notebook.

I have over 400 screenshots.

[Culain]

If you go into your library, you are saving notes, and your character is taking things from the mansion and saving them in the library. "Welcome to Reddington"

By your logic, the game should not be even giving us a map, we should have to draw that fresh every run.

Sometimes really simple things like this might help, i really don't want to take 400 more pictures like you and then have to scroll through that gallery.

[PersonalC0ffee]

Originally posted by Culain:

If you go into your library, you are saving notes, and your character is taking things from the mansion and saving them in the library. "Welcome to Reddington"

By your logic, the game should not be even giving us a map, we should have to draw that fresh every run.

Sometimes really simple things like this might help, i really don't want to take 400 more pictures like you and then have to scroll through that gallery.

The developer wouldn't have expressly told you in the Nook to keep a notebook, if they planned on giving you one in game.

[PersonalC0ffee]

I very much understand why you want one. Hell I want one, but we ain't getting one.

We are expected to be our own notebook of this, I'm very sure.

[jussr]

I think part of the likely issue is that once the game starts saving information for us, it carries some implications re what is and isn't important? There's also the question of how they'd handle "I didn't have a magnifying glass to look at this book more closely when I first saw it, but I do now that I'm reviewing it in my log" - or v.v., for that matter; you had a magnifying glass, but now that you're looking in your log, you can't zoom in anywhere any longer (and even if you make it act like the stamps and only show the zoomed in versions of things in the log after you've magnified them, how much of some book is the game going to magnify? The entire thing? Just the parts that are important, thus telling you what's important?)

I think there's a better middle ground in this regard than we currently have - I don't enjoy flipping through a trillion screenshots either, I'm not hand-writing out an entire book, and I have nowhere near good enough artistic skill to be copying a map in my own notebook - but I can see too why implementing it, and the details of how they did so, could be more complicated than it seems at first glance, you know?

[mongokino]

The pretentiousness of the devs and their lack of respect for players (paying customers) time by refusing to supply some basic QoL features like Save & Quit and this surpass the brilliance of the game. Given I really like the game that's to say I find they are a bit rich in gall tbh.

[PersonalC0ffee]

Originally posted by mongokino:

The pretentiousness of the devs and their lack of respect for players (paying customers) time by refusing to supply some basic QoL features like Save & Quit and this surpass the brilliance of the game. Given I really like the game that's to say I find they are a bit rich in gall tbh.

No it doesn't, don't be hyperbolic.

Tonda already said in the latest patch update, that the game had to ship with certain parts not available. For all we know saving mid run, is one of those parts. They also put in a few QoL updates with this latest patch with more coming like widescreen, color blindness, and controller remapping.

[dmeister]

I certainly don't expect an in-game journal tab to ever be added to the game, but I do think if it WAS in the game it would be a nice quality of life improvement. And by journal tab I mean an additional tab similar to the inventory tab where you can view all the letters and books and maps, etc, you've already read else. Yes, of course you can can take screenshots of all these things and/or write them all down in a journal, but if the game actually just had a way to call these things up in game it would make it feel a lot smoother trying to relook up old information.

So obviously it's not a mandatory feature for the game or anything, but if it ever somehow got added I think it would be a nice one to have. 🤷‍♂️

[Polyurethane]

Just so everyone is aware - you are playing this game on Steam. (ostensibly)

Steam has an extensive amount of tools built into it. You can press F12 at any time to take a screen shot, and you can SHIFT + TAB to open an in-game overlay that has a multitude of features include note keeping. You don't even need to leave the game to use it.

[PersonalC0ffee]

Originally posted by Polyurethane:

Just so everyone is aware - you are playing this game on Steam. (ostensibly)

Steam has an extensive amount of tools built into it. You can press F12 at any time to take a screen shot, and you can SHIFT + TAB to open an in-game overlay that has a multitude of features include note keeping. You don't even need to leave the game to use it.

They are saying that's not good enough.

[Polyurethane]

Originally posted by PersonalC0ffee:

Originally posted by Polyurethane:

Just so everyone is aware - you are playing this game on Steam. (ostensibly)

Steam has an extensive amount of tools built into it. You can press F12 at any time to take a screen shot, and you can SHIFT + TAB to open an in-game overlay that has a multitude of features include note keeping. You don't even need to leave the game to use it.

They are saying that's not good enough.

Oh, I guess I didn't see anyone talking about Steam's note taking feature. Let me give it a quick read... oh wait nope it's still not there.

Maybe I'll go post this info in a relevant thread, like one where people are asking for an in-game note taking system.

[ODevil]

Originally posted by Polyurethane:

Just so everyone is aware - you are playing this game on Steam. (ostensibly)

Steam has an extensive amount of tools built into it. You can press F12 at any time to take a screen shot, and you can SHIFT + TAB to open an in-game overlay that has a multitude of features include note keeping. You don't even need to leave the game to use it.

Yep, that's what I've been doing and works perfectly fine, although I prefer taking my screenshots with win+shift+s for more control of what I capture. The notes can even be pinned so they show even when the overlay is closed. Only if I want to doodle on a screenshot I have to open up paint, but that's not much of an issue imo and probably also not really needed.

[dmeister]

Originally posted by Polyurethane:

Originally posted by PersonalC0ffee:

They are saying that's not good enough.

Oh, I guess I didn't see anyone talking about Steam's note taking feature. Let me give it a quick read... oh wait nope it's still not there.

Maybe I'll go post this info in a relevant thread, like one where people are asking for an in-game note taking system.

Yeah, that'll definitely help my nephew playing it on Playstation. 🙄

Not to mention it's still not as convenient as an actual in-game feature that automatically saves books you've read in a tab.

[Polyurethane]

Originally posted by dmeister:

Yeah, that'll definitely help my nephew playing it on Playstation. 🙄

Not to mention it's still not as convenient as an actual in-game feature that automatically saves books you've read in a tab.

That's unfortunate for your nephew, but that's also irrelevant to anything I've said. You want more, okay whatever... but that's a really poor reason to dissuade people from using what's there or preventing others from talking about it.

[PersonalC0ffee]

Originally posted by Polyurethane:

Originally posted by PersonalC0ffee:

They are saying that's not good enough.

Oh, I guess I didn't see anyone talking about Steam's note taking feature. Let me give it a quick read... oh wait nope it's still not there.

Maybe I'll go post this info in a relevant thread, like one where people are asking for an in-game note taking system.

It is there, you just have to turn it on when running the overlay on the game. If you have the steam api overlay disabled, you can't use it. Shift TAB is usually what opens the overlay, then you have to click the one that says notes.

It is very basic, IMO.

You basically are making notepad type notes.

It is better than nothing.