Completely demoralized and demotivated

[Tsongor]

I haven't seen a Workshop draft in something like 25-30ish days. I know what I want to make, and I do like some RNG, but this is just completely insane. I tried to farm Conservatories with the Rook bonus, just in case I can adjust its rarity, I checked in the Wrench just in case I run into the Workshop someday, but no. I was wondering if it even exists. Then I ran into it, but havent had the items I wanted. I just cant with this bs anymore. Why is one of the most fun and interesting rooms locked behind a tier 3 rarity? It should be tier 1 or 2 TOPS. /rant & I quit bc frankly I am sick of the grind.

[meep]

Have you tried the trading post?

[Tsongor]

Originally posted by meep:

Have you tried the trading post?

wasn't in the draft that run

[Jackbooted Thot]

the RNG of this game really kills the fun of it, I hope they let us modify things soon

[Tsongor]

Originally posted by Jackbooted Thot:

the RNG of this game really kills the fun of it, I hope they let us modify things soon

Definitely needs more freedom post-46. But the main issue imo is the rarity of the workshop and the pump rooms.

[Varsoon]

Do you have scepter?
Do you have castle?
Do you have inkwell?
What's your allowance?

It should be trivial to get the workshop to appear, even at rare.
Since it's a room you can wrench and you can force wrench through toolshed,
I don't really see where you're running into problems here.

I've been post-46 for about 80 hours now, though, and mileage may definitely vary, but where I am at, it's very simple to force any room you want for any given slot on the entire estate.

[Tsongor]

Originally posted by Varsoon:

Do you have scepter?
Do you have castle?
Do you have inkwell?
What's your allowance?

It should be trivial to get the workshop to appear, even at rare.
Since it's a room you can wrench and you can force wrench through toolshed,
I don't really see where you're running into problems here.

I've been post-46 for about 80 hours now, though, and mileage may definitely vary, but where I am at, it's very simple to force any room you want for any given slot on the entire estate.

As I said, the Workshop NEVER appeared in the draft in 25+ runs, no matter how much I rerolled. That means I couldnt use the wrench to make it more common. I ran into it once or twice pre-46, but that was it. I crafted maybe one item in 30 odd hours. I have inkwell and 40+ allowance.

[Nokturnal]

Yea my first save file of the game, when I was still learning, workshop definitely did not spawn enough for how useful the items you can make are.

2nd Save file, I hoarded Wrenches and Conservatories to reduce that Rarity to common so fast lol.

The default rarity of Workshop is way too rare. Not only are the items it make necessary for story progression, but it's guaranteed to have a useful item inside every time you draft it pretty much.

[br00f]

having a single goal in mind is the wrong approach

[Tsongor]

Originally posted by br00f:

having a single goal in mind is the wrong approach

I was having multiple, but the Workbench problem went on for so long that it virtually bottlenecked me. Just to emphasize: I found 4 sanctum keys but no Workshop during that time.

[Iavra]

For my Dare and Curse mode playthroughs I had several days where i just beelined for a Conservatory, adjusted some room rarities, then called it a day. It's quick to do and prepares the draft pool for future runs. Might be worth to try out.

[Vroshnak]

Day 50, I've seen workshop twice. I made a dowsing rod.

[ChickenStrip]

The game diverges MASSIVELY on whether you unlock the things to adjust Workshop odds early in a playthrough or later.

[MANEATER]

Honestly I think the only item you need to make for progression is Power Hammer, which took a few different runs to get it for everything I needed it for. That one definitely requires patience since it requires three components.

I had terrible RNG with Burning Glass. It was literally the last contraption I had to make for the achievement. Fortunately I chose Knight from the Chess puzzle bonus, which adds the Armor, which allowed me to get a Torch a different way.

[Swede]

What grinds my gears at this point is how *slow* the game is, even when trying to make progress.

I want to move through the house at a rapid pace because I'm on my nth run trying to find a specific room! I don't want to sit through a unskippable intro animation, then N unskippable unlock animations, unskippable pickup-item animations, etc..

If the game is going to force me to replay over and over, at least don't make me suffer slowness to the point that I just quit in disgust.

[ChickenStrip]

Originally posted by Swede:

What grinds my gears at this point is how *slow* the game is, even when trying to make progress.

I want to move through the house at a rapid pace because I'm on my nth run trying to find a specific room! I don't want to sit through a unskippable intro animation, then N unskippable unlock animations, unskippable pickup-item animations, etc..

If the game is going to force me to replay over and over, at least don't make me suffer slowness to the point that I just quit in disgust.

Run the game at double speed using Cheat Engine, and then crank it up even more for the "wait half an hour" puzzles.

Even running at double speed, the game is fairly repetitive. It is better to take screenshots everything and then solve stuff looking through those than wasting time trying to revisit clues.