Broke down and decided to ask for help, but this specific Parlor Puzzle is throwing me off.

[xScornedfuryx]

These were one of the easiest puzzles for me, but this one is throwing me for a loop. From my understanding of this specific one, you can only guess which one is true after ruling on the white box.


White box: Only one box contains gems

Black box: The gems are in the white box

Blue box: Only one box is true.

Puzzle rules state that there will always be at least one box with true and false statements.

So white box is true, so one of either the black or blue boxes are false.

Blue box says one box is true. You can't determine if it's false or true since the black box claims the white box has the gems, which, again, you can't determine if it's true.

What am I missing here?

Appreciate the help.

[Nodal]

The white box, as you said, is true. If the blue box is true, it's false. In my opinion the issue with this puzzle is there is a secret third rule: You can identify the solution to the puzzle by using the boxes.
So since we know the white box is true, and we know the blue box is false, the black box can be either true or false. If it was false, we wouldn't know if the gems are in the black or the blue box. So, it must be true.

[Pandorian]

White box is true by virtue of the rules.
Blue box can't be true otherwise it contradicts itself by making itself AND white true.

If only one box is true = false, that means more than one box is true.

We already know white is true, blue is false by way of contradiction, so our last logic tells us that black has to also be true.

[Jeris]

Seems straight forward.

If blue is true, than white can't be. So, blue is false.

The confusion just comes in our own mind, where we think, but blue is true. not realizing for blue to be true, then 2 boxes would be true. As white can't be false.

black can be true or false. probably true in this case to confirm that blue was false.

[xScornedfuryx]

Originally posted by Nodal:

The white box, as you said, is true. If the blue box is true, it's false. In my opinion the issue with this puzzle is there is a secret third rule: You can identify the solution to the puzzle by using the boxes.
So since we know the white box is true, and we know the blue box is false, the black box can be either true or false. If it was false, we wouldn't know if the gems are in the black or the blue box. So, it must be true.

Originally posted by Pandorian:

White box is true by virtue of the rules.
Blue box can't be true otherwise it contradicts itself by making itself AND white true.

If only one box is true = false, that means more than one box is true.

We already know white is true, blue is false by way of contradiction, so our last logic tells us that black has to also be true.

It was, unfortunately, not the black box.

I should have recorded it, I did take pictures, though.


So White = True
Black = False
Blue = False

Black box has gems

Or

White = True
Blue = True
Black = Flase

Blue Box has gems

I think the issue is with blue box, it's actually stating only 1 of the OTHER 2 are true. Which isn't very clear.

https://imgur.com/a/9LGkUrT

[Vardis]

Originally posted by xScornedfuryx:

Originally posted by Nodal:

The white box, as you said, is true. If the blue box is true, it's false. In my opinion the issue with this puzzle is there is a secret third rule: You can identify the solution to the puzzle by using the boxes.
So since we know the white box is true, and we know the blue box is false, the black box can be either true or false. If it was false, we wouldn't know if the gems are in the black or the blue box. So, it must be true.

Originally posted by Pandorian:

White box is true by virtue of the rules.
Blue box can't be true otherwise it contradicts itself by making itself AND white true.

If only one box is true = false, that means more than one box is true.

We already know white is true, blue is false by way of contradiction, so our last logic tells us that black has to also be true.

It was, unfortunately, not the black box.

I should have recorded it, I did take pictures, though.


So White = True
Black = False
Blue = False

Black box has gems

Or

White = True
Blue = True
Black = Flase

Blue Box has gems

I think the issue is with blue box, it's actually stating only 1 of the OTHER 2 are true. Which isn't very clear.

Black has to be TRUE, not have the gems. And Black says that white has the gems.

Also, blue is not stating only one of the other 2 are true.

White = true, obviously.
Blue can't be true, because white + blue = two true boxes, invalidating blue's message. So blue is false. But now blue's message does mean we still have two true boxes, they just are white and black. So the gems are in white.

[xScornedfuryx]

Originally posted by Vardis:

Originally posted by xScornedfuryx:

It was, unfortunately, not the black box.

I should have recorded it, I did take pictures, though.


So White = True
Black = False
Blue = False

Black box has gems

Or

White = True
Blue = True
Black = Flase

Blue Box has gems

I think the issue is with blue box, it's actually stating only 1 of the OTHER 2 are true. Which isn't very clear.

Black has to be TRUE, not have the gems. And Black says that white has the gems.

Also, blue is not stating only one of the other 2 are true.

White = true, obviously.
Blue can't be true, because white + blue = two true boxes, invalidating blue's message. So blue is false. But now blue's message does mean we still have two true boxes, they just are white and black. So the gems are in white.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ okay yeah I get it now. I don't know why this one gave me such a struggle. I'm usually good at puzzles like this lmao