Can't get Music Room key to spawn

[Charity Diary]

The Sanctum Key is not spawning for me. I've tried drafting this room as the final room in the grid, drafting it on the last row, and drafting it after dark. None of these have worked. It is always a Prism Key.

Guides will tell you to do one of those three things, but it's my hypothesis that none of those are correct, and these players are accidentally stumbling upon the real solution, whatever it may be.

Anyone have any tips for this?

[Roan]

You've already found and opened room 46, right?

I wonder if "late" could be literal, as in late in the day. I don't remember exactly when I found mine but it was completely by accident - I very well could have passed most of the day by the time I drafted the Music Room.

[Charity Diary]

Messaggio originale di Roan:

You've already found and opened room 46, right?

I wonder if "late" could be literal, as in late in the day. I don't remember exactly when I found mine but it was completely by accident - I very well could have passed most of the day by the time I drafted the Music Room.

Yes. And I've tried drafting it late in the day as well.

[Doombringer]

I wait until 5pm or 6pm or whatever and got the key first try in the 2 profiles I did that on.
Once it showed up as a draft option I AFK'd for 40+ minutes before placing it lol.

[Charity Diary]

Messaggio originale di Doombringer:

I wait until 5pm or 6pm or whatever and got the key first try in the 2 profiles I did that on.
Once it showed up as a draft option I AFK'd for 40+ minutes before placing it lol.

I've tried AFK'ing after getting it as a draft option for a little over an hour and it was only like 3pm in-game when I came back. I wonder if AFK'ing works differently on Xbox.

[Handful_of_Dust]

Messaggio originale di Charity Diary:

Messaggio originale di Doombringer:

I wait until 5pm or 6pm or whatever and got the key first try in the 2 profiles I did that on.
Once it showed up as a draft option I AFK'd for 40+ minutes before placing it lol.

I've tried AFK'ing after getting it as a draft option for a little over an hour and it was only like 3pm in-game when I came back. I wonder if AFK'ing works differently on Xbox.

You may have gone AFK for longer than you thought, and looped all the way back around to the next day. If I remember right, the in-game time to real-time ratio is something like 12 to 1, so roughly an hour in-game every five minutes or so. I've definitely seen a longish run (around 2 hours) loop back around to morning, so that seems about right.

[Charity Diary]

Messaggio originale di Handful_of_Dust:

Messaggio originale di Charity Diary:

I've tried AFK'ing after getting it as a draft option for a little over an hour and it was only like 3pm in-game when I came back. I wonder if AFK'ing works differently on Xbox.

You may have gone AFK for longer than you thought, and looped all the way back around to the next day. If I remember right, the in-game time to real-time ratio is something like 12 to 1, so roughly an hour in-game every five minutes or so. I've definitely seen a longish run (around 2 hours) loop back around to morning, so that seems about right.

1 hour in-game is closer to 10 minutes real-time, so I'd have to AFK for like 5+ hours to have looped around into the following afternoon. This also means I'd have to AFK for 2 hours just for it to become nighttime, which imho is unreasonable.

[ffrotty]

i always took "draft late" to mean you should have exhausted as much of the pool of special keys to try and increase odds of getting or force that one. pretty sure vault keys inflate that pool but not sure if those count. i know in lost and found you can get prism keys and vault keys (a way to force that early is blessing of monk + resting in a lost and found). i regularly get silver keys + secret garden out of darts. and then locksmith to roll another. not sure if master key is exclusive to showcase...


ie, if you're always getting a prism key then if you already had one you wouldn't get another one. past that, RNG?

[Handful_of_Dust]

Messaggio originale di Charity Diary:

1 hour in-game is closer to 10 minutes real-time, so I'd have to AFK for like 5+ hours to have looped around into the following afternoon. This also means I'd have to AFK for 2 hours just for it to become nighttime, which imho is unreasonable.

Fair enough. I double checked, and it's 8 minutes real time to 1 hour in-game, so I guess some of those very long runs I'd had were a bit longer than I was thinking (closer to 3 hours than 2).

[Coelacanth]

I got the Sanctum Key to spawn once in the Music Room for me (drafted it on rank 9, directly connected to the Antechamber. Don't remember the time of day). However, I didn't get to use it as I didn't have steps left to reach the sanctum and it vanished from my inventory.

My last run today I got the Music Room on Rank 9 again (early in the day, not directly connected to the Antechamber). It spawned a Prism Key instead. Did I get hardlocked here?

[Gorlom[Swe]]

Messaggio originale di Coelacanth:

I got the Sanctum Key to spawn once in the Music Room for me (drafted it on rank 9, directly connected to the Antechamber. Don't remember the time of day). However, I didn't get to use it as I didn't have steps left to reach the sanctum and it vanished from my inventory.

My last run today I got the Music Room on Rank 9 again (early in the day, not directly connected to the Antechamber). It spawned a Prism Key instead. Did I get hardlocked here?

nah. just try to spawn the music room later. maybe with a prism key in your inventory or coatchecked.

[Charity Diary]

I have confirmed that this does NOT have anything to do with time. I spawned the Sanctum Key at 11am, just only had 1 step left :(

In my inventory I had Prism Key and Silver Key, the keycard doors were already bypassed, and there was no space for Secret Garden, so that is probably what's required. Exhaust the other keys and then draft Music Room.

[Pandorian]

When I first tried to spawn the key I tried a rank 8/9 spawn, that didn't work. When I next tried to get the key to spawn I monked the Music room and waited until late in the day to go in, that didn't have the key.

What finally ended up working was when I received the key and had less than 10 or so spots to draft in the house. It was also deeper in the house but it wasn't rank 8/9.

[Charity Diary]

Messaggio originale di Pandorian:

When I first tried to spawn the key I tried a rank 8/9 spawn, that didn't work. When I next tried to get the key to spawn I monked the Music room and waited until late in the day to go in, that didn't have the key.

What finally ended up working was when I received the key and had less than 10 or so spots to draft in the house. It was also deeper in the house but it wasn't rank 8/9.

That doesn't work, either, as I've drafted it in the final slot multiple times.

Ultimately, the Sanctum Key is simply a rare drop in the Music Room. The more major keys you have in your inventory, the less rare it becomes.

[amoe06]

Messaggio originale di Charity Diary:

I have confirmed that this does NOT have anything to do with time. I spawned the Sanctum Key at 11am, just only had 1 step left :(

In my inventory I had Prism Key and Silver Key, the keycard doors were already bypassed, and there was no space for Secret Garden, so that is probably what's required. Exhaust the other keys and then draft Music Room.

Maybe "late" then refers to late in your run, with few steps remaining?

Messaggio originale di Coelacanth:

I got the Sanctum Key to spawn once in the Music Room for me (drafted it on rank 9, directly connected to the Antechamber. Don't remember the time of day). However, I didn't get to use it as I didn't have steps left to reach the sanctum and it vanished from my inventory.

My last run today I got the Music Room on Rank 9 again (early in the day, not directly connected to the Antechamber). It spawned a Prism Key instead. Did I get hardlocked here?

This also shows they got the sanctum key with little steps remaining

[Coelacanth]

Messaggio originale di amoe06:

This also shows they got the sanctum key with little steps remaining

I just got it to spawn again, rank 9 not connected to the Antechamber and not that late in the day, BUT - only ~20 steps remaining. I also only had 4 other open room slots remaining. Maybe those are the variables?