This game nearly killed my computer.

[Valravn Black]

I have a cutting edge gaming desktop I built myself, which is FAR more powerful than this game would need. And yet, this game nearly killed my computer. For starters, the game wouldn't even launch. It crashed to desktop immediately stating Unreal Engine was out of video memory. Which is ridiculous, because my GPU has far more VRAM than this game could even use.

I tried the fix people have recommended, which is going into your Nvidia control panel and increasing the shader buffer to 10 GB.

This was a terrible mistake, upon launching the game, both my monitors went black, and my computer's fans cycled up to maximum speed. I was forced to hard reboot my desktop, as it was completely unresponsive.

EDIT: People in the comments made some good points about the cause of the issue, which I investigated further. As someone said, there is an issue with 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs overvolting and overclocking to the point of a system crash.

The easiest solution is to prevent your CPU from overclocking at all. You really don't need overclocking on high end Intel CPUs anyways, their base clock is more than enough.

The easiest fix for this doesn't even involve messing with the BIOS, all you need to do is go into your power management settings in Windows, and go into advanced power management. Set your minimum and maximum usage to a number less than 100%, and it will turn off overclocking entirely. If you aren't concerned about damage like I am, set it to 99% and you'll be fine. I had my system crash a few times, so I'm going to stick with 90% maximum and 5% minimum for now.

EDIT 2: Turning off overclocking in the BIOS and through power management is NOT enough, this will not fix the issue. You have to dial down the performance core multiplication using a tool called Intel XTU. This will fix the issue with Unreal games like this one.
This article explains the process, its very quick and simple, and will prevent your CPU from taking damage from overvolting and overheating: https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

Btw people asked for my specs.

Windows 10, latest update
MSI MEG Z690 ACE Mobo
Nvidia RTX 3090Ti GPU
64 GB of DDR5 6000Mhz RAM
Intel i9 14900K CPU
Noctua NH D-15 Chromax Black tower cooler
Corsair RM1000X power supply
6 1TB+ NVME drives for windows and storage


....and no, I did not forget to apply thermal paste. Yes, I saw that comment.

[Dakone]

This game is far from being optimized did not read any of the reviews before buying ? there plenty of them stating just this... seems any hardware that isn't from last year is struggling including me but my system has liquid cooled and mini AC system so I don't have that issue but did notice the memory leak which was really bad one if I didn't have that cooling system would have nuked my pc also. "side note my AC normally doesn't kick on often unless I am playing a harsh game that is making my temps go above 70c with liquid cooling still on so ya my computer got hot enough for it to have to kick on the AC which still kept it at 60c where it should be below 50c.." So this memory leak is very bad.

[Riktor87]

İlk olarak Dakone tarafından gönderildi:

This game is far from being optimized did not read any of the reviews before buying ? there plenty of them stating just this... seems any hardware that isn't from last year is struggling including me but my system has liquid cooled and mini AC system so I don't have that issue but did notice the memory leak which was really bad one if I didn't have that cooling system would have nuked my pc also. "side note my AC normally doesn't kick on often unless I am playing a harsh game that is making my temps go above 70c with liquid cooling still on so ya my computer got hot enough for it to have to kick on the AC which still kept it at 60c where it should be below 50c.." So this memory leak is very bad.

You think the game has the potential to "nuke your pc" but are still playing it.... Okay.... As for both of you I've been playing on an MSI GF63 laptop while I'm out of town and besides some frame hitches once in a while on max recovery days it's ran about what I'd expect with mid/high settings. Sounds like you may have other problems within your system. And that's after 400 hours with the game.

[Dakone]

İlk olarak Riktor87 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Dakone tarafından gönderildi:

This game is far from being optimized did not read any of the reviews before buying ? there plenty of them stating just this... seems any hardware that isn't from last year is struggling including me but my system has liquid cooled and mini AC system so I don't have that issue but did notice the memory leak which was really bad one if I didn't have that cooling system would have nuked my pc also. "side note my AC normally doesn't kick on often unless I am playing a harsh game that is making my temps go above 70c with liquid cooling still on so ya my computer got hot enough for it to have to kick on the AC which still kept it at 60c where it should be below 50c.." So this memory leak is very bad.

You think the game has the potential to "nuke your pc" but are still playing it.... Okay.... As for both of you I've been playing on an MSI GF63 laptop while I'm out of town and besides some frame hitches once in a while on max recovery days it's ran about what I'd expect with mid/high settings. Sounds like you may have other problems within your system. And that's after 400 hours with the game.

Mid/High what are those words you speak of ? I play on the max settings of everything again I am not having issues other than the memory leak and I am able to continue to play with no issues other than the heat gen which is countered by my cooling system.. I am just saying if the game isn't meant to be played on ultra whats the point ? Also I am just agreeing with the OP since its true.. just because he doesn't have zero point generator isn't my problem.

[RG | WaffleWaffen]

İlk olarak Dakone tarafından gönderildi:

This game is far from being optimized did not read any of the reviews before buying ? there plenty of them stating just this... seems any hardware that isn't from last year is struggling including me but my system has liquid cooled and mini AC system so I don't have that issue but did notice the memory leak which was really bad one if I didn't have that cooling system would have nuked my pc also. "side note my AC normally doesn't kick on often unless I am playing a harsh game that is making my temps go above 70c with liquid cooling still on so ya my computer got hot enough for it to have to kick on the AC which still kept it at 60c where it should be below 50c.." So this memory leak is very bad.

Is this a leak or is the program requesting allocation of a lot of memory due to optimization. When you ask an engineer how often do you have memory leaks in your programs I respond with, "almost never". RAII is way too good at keeping these things from happening to heap, files, sockets, or mutexes. RAII uses constructors and destructors, so you never have to include operators like new, or delete or locking/unlocking mutex so it manages memory for you. There are always exceptions, I am very bad at explaining things (why I do not train people) but in short it is rare or intentional. Memory management in C++ is not too bad, for the most part.

Segfaults are more common, I have this issue especially when i interface with low level code, OS API's or other low level libraries, they tend to have a sh*t load of pointers and poor type safety, if you're lucky you only have to deal with one or the other. I am never lucky.

[Riktor87]

İlk olarak Dakone tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Riktor87 tarafından gönderildi:

You think the game has the potential to "nuke your pc" but are still playing it.... Okay.... As for both of you I've been playing on an MSI GF63 laptop while I'm out of town and besides some frame hitches once in a while on max recovery days it's ran about what I'd expect with mid/high settings. Sounds like you may have other problems within your system. And that's after 400 hours with the game.

Mid/High what are those words you speak of ? I play on the max settings of everything again I am not having issues other than the memory leak and I am able to continue to play with no issues other than the heat gen which is countered by my cooling system.. I am just saying if the game isn't meant to be played on ultra whats the point ? Also I am just agreeing with the OP since its true.. just because he doesn't have zero point generator isn't my problem.

Mid high as in what you may deal with when your not sitting in an apartment on your 5-6k main rig.... Get over it, I've played it on max, ooooh wow shiny, big deal, still didn't have these problems again in over 400 hours, on either system. By the way 50% of nothing is still nothing, guess you don't agree with several highly popular games using 2d sprite engines with that mindset on pixel counts being an actual metric of a game.

[Raptor]

my amd ryzen 7 was hitting 85 celcius with this game. turns out the auto-oc/adaptive-oc in the bios was the problem. its running stable now between 30-50c

[SantaSam]

first, you should give us your hardware specs, so we can actually try to help you
second, the black screens and the fans cycling up could be a problem with your i guess (4080 nvidia) graphics card, because its a common problem amongst this cards.
I dont have any of this problem whilst playing on max settings (7900xtx)

maybe uninstall your graphic cards drivers and do a fresh install

[Black Raven]

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

I have a cutting edge gaming desktop I built myself, which is FAR more powerful than this game would need.

The devs should be ashamed, this is not remotely a functional product, and should be taken off the steam store ASAP.

Games can't kill hardware.

Bad hardware setup, or faulty hardware is what kills hardware.

When a game pushes a computer to hard, the computer safeguard to prevent damage, ie thermal throttle etc, assuming ofc you haven't been overclocking beyond stable limits.

and if you happen to have 13 or 14th Gen Intel CPU, that's probably your problem right there, as out the box they are pushing themselves too hard to point of fatal stability issues, Intel is aware this and trying to do damage control without taking real responsibility right now.

Or if you have RTX 4090 you might have a failing power connector due to the melting 12v plug issue with Nvidia top end card.

If you claim to have built the computer yourself you should be ashamed to not have a good understanding of how computer hardware works instead of blaming the Dev's.

[RG | WaffleWaffen]

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

I have a cutting edge gaming desktop I built myself, which is FAR more powerful than this game would need. And yet, this game nearly killed my computer. For starters, the game wouldn't even launch. It crashed to desktop immediately stating Unreal Engine was out of video memory. Which is ridiculous, because my GPU has far more VRAM than this game could even use.

I tried the fix people have recommended, which is going into your Nvidia control panel and increasing the shader buffer to 10 GB.

This was a terrible mistake, upon launching the game, both my monitors went black, and my computer's fans cycled up to maximum speed. I was forced to hard reboot my desktop, as it was completely unresponsive.

The devs need to fix the massive memory leak issues with this game. It isn't even playable in its current state, and could possibly kill a user's computer by overloading the CPU and RAM.

The devs should be ashamed, this is not remotely a functional product, and should be taken off the steam store ASAP.

I will be refunding this immediately, and will never buy a game from this company again.

There is no memory leak, did you try to monitor virtual and private bytes on the process U01-Win64-shipping ? Did you make a dump and check it is Visual Studio? Probably not. How about Nsight/VisualProfiler or CodeXL depending on your gpu?

Well, I did. Maybe you forgot thermal paste ? It really sucks to see people who don't know much about computers try to ruin independent developers. I had posted being a bit nicer, but this is more fitting after putting in the time to look at your unfounded claims.

[SantaSam]

İlk olarak Black Raven tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

I have a cutting edge gaming desktop I built myself, which is FAR more powerful than this game would need.

The devs should be ashamed, this is not remotely a functional product, and should be taken off the steam store ASAP.

Games can't kill hardware.

Bad hardware setup, or faulty hardware is what kills hardware.

When a game pushes a computer to hard, the computer safeguard to prevent damage, ie thermal throttle etc, assuming ofc you haven't been overclocking beyond stable limits.

and if you happen to have 13 or 14th Gen Intel CPU, that's probably your problem right there, as out the box they are pushing themselves too hard to point of fatal stability issues, Intel is aware this and trying to do damage control without taking real responsibility right now.

Or if you have RTX 4090 you might have a failing power connector due to the melting 12v plug issue with Nvidia top end card.

If you claim to have built the computer yourself you should be ashamed to not have a good understanding of how computer hardware works instead of blaming the Dev's.

Games can kill Hardware, alas the Hardware was faulty before. Again a Nvidia Problem, a while ago, as the uncapped FPS menu in New World caused some 3090 to brick themselves. I dont understand how people still buying Nvidia cards for high prices, that tend to destroy themselves in a collective suicide while simply doing what they were made for.

[semeku]

The out of video memory is exactly the issue with the newest intel cpus. They are unstable.
Also we will never know if you even owned the game to begin with. So it kinda seems you just want to bash the devs. They've put in actual work fixing the most glaring issues players have had, and issued the patches very quickly. So I wouldn't really blame the devs at all.

So far I've had like 2 crashes in my 110+ hours of gametime. One caused by myself for alt-tabbing too much quickly. My fault that one. Other one was after 5+ hour session.

For the record:
i7-10700k (stock)
32 GB ram
RTX3080TI

[Black Raven]

İlk olarak SantaSam tarafından gönderildi:

Games can kill Hardware, alas the Hardware was faulty before. Again a Nvidia Problem, a while ago, as the uncapped FPS menu in New World caused some 3090 to brick themselves.

New World didn't brick the 3090's, it highlighted a flaw in the 3090 itself.

Not every 3090 got bricked, not every GPU got bricked, if the flaw was the game it wouldn't of been limited to specific brands of 3090's

[Black Raven]

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

For starters, the game wouldn't even launch. It crashed to desktop immediately stating Unreal Engine was out of video memory.

I missed this initially

Nvidia put out statement while back regarding Unreal 5 "Out of Video Memory" is not a Nvidia issue, its Intel 13th and 14th Gen problem,.

The fix is to stop using any overclocks, stop using motherboard defaults.

In Bios switch to "Intel Baseline Profile" (bios might need updating maybe.)

This will downclock your CPU and you lose some performance, but its the only fix.

If you don't do it then you going see this problem again and again, and it could potentially kill your CPU eventually.


So unless you want dead PC I'd take this very seriously, and again, this has nothing to do with the game Dev's, its a Intel flaw that's been discovered recently, they clocking too high at stock and is highly unstable.


Various source's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIubZYwBfPc&ab_channel=JayzTwoCents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdF5erDRO-c&t=719s&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4DTxFUUvM&t=14s&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[Dakone]

İlk olarak Black Raven tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

For starters, the game wouldn't even launch. It crashed to desktop immediately stating Unreal Engine was out of video memory.

I missed this initially

Nvidia put out statement while back regarding Unreal 5 "Out of Video Memory" is not a Nvidia issue, its Intel 13th and 14th Gen problem,.

The fix is to stop using any overclocks, stop using motherboard defaults.

In Bios switch to "Intel Baseline Profile" (bios might need updating maybe.)

This will downclock your CPU and you lose some performance, but its the only fix.

If you don't do it then you going see this problem again and again, and it could potentially kill your CPU eventually.


So unless you want dead PC I'd take this very seriously, and again, this has nothing to do with the game Dev's, its a Intel flaw that's been discovered recently, they clocking too high at stock and is highly unstable.


Various source's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIubZYwBfPc&ab_channel=JayzTwoCents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdF5erDRO-c&t=719s&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4DTxFUUvM&t=14s&ab_channel=GamersNexus

Hopefully it helps that OP I suspected it was because of overclocking.

[Spoony]

İlk olarak Valravn Black tarafından gönderildi:

I have a cutting edge gaming desktop I built myself, which is FAR more powerful than this game would need. And yet, this game nearly killed my computer. For starters, the game wouldn't even launch. It crashed to desktop immediately stating Unreal Engine was out of video memory. Which is ridiculous, because my GPU has far more VRAM than this game could even use.

I tried the fix people have recommended, which is going into your Nvidia control panel and increasing the shader buffer to 10 GB.

This was a terrible mistake, upon launching the game, both my monitors went black, and my computer's fans cycled up to maximum speed. I was forced to hard reboot my desktop, as it was completely unresponsive.

The devs need to fix the massive memory leak issues with this game. It isn't even playable in its current state, and could possibly kill a user's computer by overloading the CPU and RAM.

The devs should be ashamed, this is not remotely a functional product, and should be taken off the steam store ASAP.

I will be refunding this immediately, and will never buy a game from this company again.

SO i will call BS on everything you mentioned and that you are nothing more than a spammer looking for attention.

i have 2 computers 3600 AMD with a 5700XT and aa 5950x and 6900xt and both run it totally fine.

i know others running the game on a R9 290 at 40fps, so i call 100% BS on your attention seeking claims.

go play helldivers or COD you clowns pocket