Vanguard edition has exclusive turrets?

[Poop Lord, Lord of Poop]

Am I seeing that right? That's kinda really scummy. Especially given you can't upgrade to vanguard or buy the turrets as DLC.

[curtyuiop]

I am lowly skilled so hoping the difference is just work. Otherwise pay to win is a no for me. I have 42 min. of playtime so i'm holding off from playing for a few hours, and subscribed to this discussion.

[Saica-Fox]

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

yeah so cuz it fires 3 times faster 30mm it can kill medium and heavy enemy 3 times faster thus u need 1 turret to do the work of 3 30mm so its pay to win

Pay to win what, it's PVE and Co-Op with your friends. What are we paying to win? It's effectively DLC, If you want it, pay the extra $10 to start with, support the studio that made the game, If they were going to be scummy they could have charged you $60 and then $120 for the Deluxe Ultimate Operator edition. But they didn't, instead they decided to reward those that put their faith in the game with two additional units and some cosmetics. Made it affordable for even a teenager working a summer job and called it a day.

paying to make beating higher difficulties easier

[SSG_HALO]

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Pay to win what, it's PVE and Co-Op with your friends. What are we paying to win? It's effectively DLC, If you want it, pay the extra $10 to start with, support the studio that made the game, If they were going to be scummy they could have charged you $60 and then $120 for the Deluxe Ultimate Operator edition. But they didn't, instead they decided to reward those that put their faith in the game with two additional units and some cosmetics. Made it affordable for even a teenager working a summer job and called it a day.

paying to make beating higher difficulties easier

Should have bought the DLC if the game is that hard for you. I mean we can only hope no one is presented with a challenge in today's world, we would hate for something to be difficult.

[Saica-Fox]

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

paying to make beating higher difficulties easier

Should have bought the DLC if the game is that hard for you. I mean we can only hope no one is presented with a challenge in today's world, we would hate for something to be difficult.

see u just explained the issue selling a dlc that makes the game easier is a bad practice and is pay to win thank you for proving the point of the post. not to mention there is no option to even upgrade to the pay to win u had to buy it outright or sucks to suck

[Neckstabba]

I just bought the Vanguard because the turrets look cool lol. The Viper looks sick

[SSG_HALO]

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Should have bought the DLC if the game is that hard for you. I mean we can only hope no one is presented with a challenge in today's world, we would hate for something to be difficult.

see u just explained the issue selling a dlc that makes the game easier is a bad practice and is pay to win thank you for proving the point of the post. not to mention there is no option to even upgrade to the pay to win u had to buy it outright or sucks to suck

Guess you should have got good to begin with, Sorry its not war thunder. Sucks to suck. Since its not a PVP Game, give 10 minutes there will be a mod for that. Then you will be able to dial it down to your level. You can't pay to win a PVE Game. Those of us that paid the extra $10 probably didn't do so to make it an easier experience, we saw a reasonably priced game from a smaller dev team and decided to support them, I can care less about a CWIS, what I want is the game to succeed and the Dev team to have the money they need to be successful. Next time don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

[Saica-Fox]

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

see u just explained the issue selling a dlc that makes the game easier is a bad practice and is pay to win thank you for proving the point of the post. not to mention there is no option to even upgrade to the pay to win u had to buy it outright or sucks to suck

Guess you should have got good to begin with, Sorry its not war thunder. Sucks to suck. Since its not a PVP Game, give 10 minutes there will be a mod for that. Then you will be able to dial it down to your level. You can't pay to win a PVE Game. Those of us that paid the extra $10 probably didn't do so to make it an easier experience, we saw a reasonably priced game from a smaller dev team and decided to support them, I can care less about a CWIS, what I want is the game to succeed and the Dev team to have the money they need to be successful. Next time don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

nah im good im on city ruins 3 without it thanks for proving my point tho

[curtyuiop]

On second thought, I don't mind it being too difficult for me, the game is fun, and the idea of it is worth supporting. No refund in mind here.

[XioKenji]

At best they make your life easier but I'm guessing they do fall off at a certain point, It's really p2w as there is no winning lmao

tho I do regret not getting them purely due to variety

[LDream]

You actually won't have a clear advantage by buying the Vanguard edition, damage per second of the two turrets are about the same, and they are not ammo-hungry turrets, saving a few rounds in a battle won't make any difference

[Dissa_K]

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

Originally posted by SSG_HALO:

Guess you should have got good to begin with, Sorry its not war thunder. Sucks to suck. Since its not a PVP Game, give 10 minutes there will be a mod for that. Then you will be able to dial it down to your level. You can't pay to win a PVE Game. Those of us that paid the extra $10 probably didn't do so to make it an easier experience, we saw a reasonably priced game from a smaller dev team and decided to support them, I can care less about a CWIS, what I want is the game to succeed and the Dev team to have the money they need to be successful. Next time don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

nah im good im on city ruins 3 without it thanks for proving my point tho

wells, it sucks but there cant be a p2w on a full pve game cuz you are no beating anyone but you, its like use cheats and the crybabies that wanted an anticheat, there is no need for.
the cwis are the same thing but on different skin, and the viper changes its fire rate but also its damage amount, viper shoots fastes piercing while double fires a more powerfull aoe pyro shot, on the end, they re almost the same to

[Snakeyes511]

Originally posted by XIII Cario:

yes only till april 9 too lol basically put people pressure to buy now kinda sad

Originally posted by Ydyp:

Originally posted by SmokeyLighting:

From my impressions of playing and using them, they're practically identical to the base game turrets and are simply cosmetic.

Still doesn't change the fact they are using FOMO tactics which is still a crappy move. So I do hope that after the timer goes down they will add them as DLC to still buy them until the end of times, even if they are slightly marked up in price vs what they cost now.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1566690/view/4140569729632350420?l=english

""Outpost: Infinity Siege" will unlock on March 26th, with the Standard Edition priced at USD $24.99 and the Vanguard Edition at USD $39.99. Enjoy an initial 10% discount on the Vanguard Edition, reducing the price to $35.99."

That special offer end date refers to the discount not to the date it goes off of sale.

[Kydaverous]

the only real advantage the vanguard edition gives is that they get separate settings for virtually the same turret... one focuses small and med the other focus missiles and to be honest i use the standard cwis more.

[Saica-Fox]

Originally posted by Kydaverious:

the only real advantage the vanguard edition gives is that they get separate settings for virtually the same turret... one focuses small and med the other focus missiles and to be honest i use the standard cwis more.

nah its not the same turret it fires 3 times faster

[Kydaverous]

Originally posted by Saica-Fox:

Originally posted by Kydaverious:

the only real advantage the vanguard edition gives is that they get separate settings for virtually the same turret... one focuses small and med the other focus missiles and to be honest i use the standard cwis more.

nah its not the same turret it fires 3 times faster

that makes it worse not better unless your a masochist that likes to baby sit eternally thirsty lead spitters