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OldManSkills May 22, 2023 @ 1:50am
The golfers
is it just me or they play another game? they are the only team that can beat me at standard/expert. They feel super unfair to play and not fun. Insane defence that spam stick throws and their attack in broken they have curve shot and probably the best player in the game flying. Their goalie will block almost anything.
Last edited by OldManSkills; May 22, 2023 @ 1:51am
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ContrarianOrange May 22, 2023 @ 12:24pm 
I'm not sure but there are two things in play here. 1. you can't make long passes... 2. the longer you carry the puck the more likely you will get hit with a golf club. So you have to make relatively short passes and be able to get back on defense or they will tick-tac-toe you ... So the mushroom upgrade is really good against the golfers and speed in general helps alot... I'm maybe 2 and 2 against the golfers and the two wins were blow outs and the two losses were really close. The thing my two wins had were players with over 100 speed and my losses I didn't have anybody in the 90's
ContrarianOrange May 22, 2023 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by ContrarianOrange:
I'm not sure but there are two things in play here. 1. you can't make long passes... 2. the longer you carry the puck the more likely you will get hit with a golf club. So you have to make relatively short passes and be able to get back on defense or they will tick-tac-toe you ... So the mushroom upgrade is really good against the golfers and speed in general helps alot... I'm maybe 2 and 2 against the golfers and the two wins were blow outs and the two losses were really close. The thing my two wins had were players with over 100 speed and my losses I didn't have anybody in the 90's
Ok I did save the stats from my first win.
My whole team was in the 70's for speed without the puck (I had a couple people with speed +25 without the puck) and shaggy had the skill that gives a speed boost. In my last win my star did have over 100 speed and rocket boots.
Binnie May 22, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
I don't know. I just beat them on my 3rd run of the game on standard.

They were certainly a challenge, but nothing crazy. I find Speed is the biggest stat for dodging the sticks.
Zalym May 22, 2023 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by OldManSkills:
is it just me or they play another game...
I'm with you on this feeling.

For the most part, clearing the rest of the map map up to the golfers is not terribly difficult. Then I get on that ice field. And, they certainly feel like a steep step up from any other team. Of course plenty of people have beaten the game, and some have done it with every player--so there has to be a way to work through it fairly consistently.

For my part, I'd be happy with just one win. Right now, I'm 0-5, with four of my games being lost by 1 goal.

I'm not sure what to do against them, specifically. Sometimes it feels like they barely hold onto the puck at all as it flies across the ice to people I can't even see let alone defend against. So as stupid and obvious as it is, my plan has to be to keep them away from the puck at all costs because there's no defending them "normally," at least not for me.

I think the key might be either to have a lot of speed across the team (short pass keep away) or heavy defense/checking (especially offensive checking if possible to keep them down long enough to score).

I could be VERY wrong--as is evidenced by my lack of wins--but I don't see a "jack of all trades" type team winning much. The golfers are too fast on their skates and too heavy handed with their sticks--so you ether have to beat them at their own game, or keep them from playing it at all.

Then it's just getting past their brick wall of a goalie. The only consistent goals I've had (even with teams loaded with curve/up down/T-ball shots) are spamming rebounds--so I'd be on the look out for those power-ups too.
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Anyway, a long post to say that I'm frustrated with the golfers, too. I don't want them nerfed or anything, I just want to figure out how to best play against them and work on that strategy.
Jesse May 24, 2023 @ 10:12am 
I've handled the golfers fairly easily on standard but they are frustratingly difficult on expert. It's to the point where it's not even fun because I don't feel like i'm playing hockey anymore. I want them to be a challenge but it seems like there is only one way to score goals on them and that's flinging the puck on net and frantically cheesing the shoot button hoping for a rebound. Then you have to hope you can prevent them from ever making it down to your end because they will score at will with rebounds and curving shots from a mile out.

The last game I played against them I was down by 4 at the end of the 1st. I finally got some rebound goals and cut it to 2 by the end of the second, and cut it to 1 at the beginning of the third. Then it all fell apart as they began to score at will and i got blown out.

It would be fun if you were rewarded with smart and clever play, utilization different skill combos. The way it is right now it feels like blind luck hoping for rebounds. And you HAVE to have the rebound specific talents.

Oh, and the green "ice" makes it very difficult to follow the puck. It's a fun idea but ends up making it difficult in an artificial way.
Last edited by Jesse; May 24, 2023 @ 10:14am
OldManSkills May 24, 2023 @ 10:24am 
just to add and clarify things. i beat them around 3-4 times. but the issue isnt that they are hard the issue is that its not fair or fun to play againts them.
Jesse May 25, 2023 @ 9:43am 
So, not long after my previous post I ended up beating the Golfers on expert 4-2. I was even able to use tactics other than rebound spamming but that was still pretty vital. Save Dancing relic or whatever it's called is very important. Having the ref and one of your defensemen attempting to hit opposing players at all times can help. McShaggy had the fart talent, which was somewhat helpful. I Lamoustache as my other superstar. His kazou skill is extremely effective as both an offensive and defensive weapon. You can break up plays in the defensive zone, freeze defenders in the offensive zone, and use it on the forecheck to hem the opposing players in the offensive zone.

But as I said, and OldManSkills mentioned, it's not fun playing against them.
Assault Poodle May 25, 2023 @ 8:38pm 
The problem I have is that beating them feels like RNG rather than skill. I'm 2-2 against them, and each time I've scored 4-5 goals... but they'll either score 7, or 2, depending entirely on RNG rather than my defense. I haven't found a good strategy because they'll shoot from any angle and distance, and have the same probability of going in - it depends entirely on whether or not RNG says the goalie is having a good or bad day. There's no defense against a team where all five players can score just as easily from the corners or behind the blue lines as if they were right in front of the net - it depends entirely on whether the goalie makes his saving throw.
Morb The Menace May 25, 2023 @ 9:27pm 
First time encountering them
9-1 loss
They're mental lmao
griz May 27, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Name The Golfers implies that they are actually the Toronto Maple Leafs
Drinkcup May 28, 2023 @ 1:18pm 
I stopped trying.... gating content with stuff like this is just bad.. I don't really have much incentive to play already as exhibition games mean nothing. I'm not gonig to try the rogue any more, im perfectly fine going through life never beating a stupidly designed encounter with the 'golf boys'.

so, uh, i'm hoping they do something to add playable modes or it's an early g'night
mr_oluap May 28, 2023 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by Drinkcup:
I stopped trying.... gating content with stuff like this is just bad.. I don't really have much incentive to play already as exhibition games mean nothing. I'm not gonig to try the rogue any more, im perfectly fine going through life never beating a stupidly designed encounter with the 'golf boys'.

so, uh, i'm hoping they do something to add playable modes or it's an early g'night

Well this is the last fight so nothing is really "gated" behind

Golf team has insane attack but mediocre defense, it's really an all out battle. Speed is the most important stat to be able to catch the puck and counter them
Last edited by mr_oluap; May 28, 2023 @ 2:26pm
levvie99 May 29, 2023 @ 11:20pm 
I think the frustrating thing about the golfers is how they tend to spam the tomahawk. I wish they had a more unique skill since you previously encountered a player with the tomahawk and four sticks on their back (Clementine with the Princess team). But all five players with the tomahawk is insane lol

Also I think Cornelius has the curve puck skill so he's sometimes able to score from far
Assault Poodle May 30, 2023 @ 10:38am 
I've beaten the golfers four times now (using Rory, Dord, Ozark, and Crockett), and it honestly feels luck based rather than skill based. They can reliably score from anywhere on the ice, and all move faster than even Kelly Jelly, so defense really depends entirely on whether your goalie makes the save. Combined with the way the entire team spams the tomahawk - which not only takes out your players, but also disrupts your passes because of all the sticks on the ice - I can't help but feel that my wins are more RNG than any real skill. I know when I have a bad matchup against the cultists or the refs, and winning or losing against them feels earned. Not so with the golfers.
Drinkcup May 31, 2023 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by mr_oluap:
Originally posted by Drinkcup:
I stopped trying.... gating content with stuff like this is just bad.. I don't really have much incentive to play already as exhibition games mean nothing. I'm not gonig to try the rogue any more, im perfectly fine going through life never beating a stupidly designed encounter with the 'golf boys'.

so, uh, i'm hoping they do something to add playable modes or it's an early g'night

Well this is the last fight so nothing is really "gated" behind

Golf team has insane attack but mediocre defense, it's really an all out battle. Speed is the most important stat to be able to catch the puck and counter them
well, unlocking the golfers is gated behind beating them.
i was close every time and it just came down to a lil puck luck but im not doing it again, at least not for a while. i hate to say it but it really makes my heatlh tank the way it made me upset .
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