i remember playing these free games online

[SuperDean]

why is the collection of old free games almost 30 dollars?
also just a note: im not going to buy this not because of the price but because then vs now my eyes got messed up in such a way that nether glasses nor contacts can fix them that i would not be able to see the small red balls.

[Ginger Jesus]

Do you think that Submachine: Legacy should cost less?

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

Do you think that Submachine: Legacy should cost less?

well since if you get a flash player and download the old flash games itll be free, maybe. they should get some money for putting it together to play in a easy package but remember these games where free back in the day, and i think 25 bucks for that is to much

[Montinevra]

This is not the flash games repackaged. It's a full remaster, with a new engine, new art, and new content.

[Ginger Jesus]

Originally posted by SuperDean:

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

Do you think that Submachine: Legacy should cost less?

well since if you get a flash player and download the old flash games itll be free, maybe. they should get some money for putting it together to play in a easy package but remember these games where free back in the day, and i think 25 bucks for that is to much

If the games had cost money back in the day, then would it be reasonable for Submachine: Legacy to cost 25 bucks?

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

Originally posted by SuperDean:

well since if you get a flash player and download the old flash games itll be free, maybe. they should get some money for putting it together to play in a easy package but remember these games where free back in the day, and i think 25 bucks for that is to much

If the games had cost money back in the day, then would it be reasonable for Submachine: Legacy to cost 25 bucks?

id have to say yes because remasters are nothing new of older games you had to buy and i said they should be payed ether way for the repackaging of these games and making them run on newer computers without having to install a flashplayer but i just think 25 is to much (im not asking for it for free but im saying the work put in should match the price [minus the making of the games since they where free and are still free to play online]).

[Ginger Jesus]

Originally posted by SuperDean:

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

If the games had cost money back in the day, then would it be reasonable for Submachine: Legacy to cost 25 bucks?

id have to say yes because remasters are nothing new of older games you had to buy and i said they should be payed ether way for the repackaging of these games and making them run on newer computers without having to install a flashplayer but i just think 25 is to much (im not asking for it for free but im saying the work put in should match the price [minus the making of the games since they where free and are still free to play online]).

If I’m hearing you correctly, you’re saying that Submachine: Legacy’s price should be be based on how much effort it took to transform the free versions of the Submachine games into Submachine: Legacy. Are there any other factors that you use to determine what Submachine: Legacy’s price should be?

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

Originally posted by SuperDean:

id have to say yes because remasters are nothing new of older games you had to buy and i said they should be payed ether way for the repackaging of these games and making them run on newer computers without having to install a flashplayer but i just think 25 is to much (im not asking for it for free but im saying the work put in should match the price [minus the making of the games since they where free and are still free to play online]).

If I’m hearing you correctly, you’re saying that Submachine: Legacy’s price should be be based on how much effort it took to transform the free versions of the Submachine games into Submachine: Legacy. Are there any other factors that you use to determine what Submachine: Legacy’s price should be?

well yes and there are no other factors i used since as i said you can actually still play all of these for free online right now. so they should only make you pay for the repackaging and updating of these games (you know the work they put in to get them here on steam and working on new computers without the need of a flash player)

[Ginger Jesus]

Originally posted by SuperDean:

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

If I’m hearing you correctly, you’re saying that Submachine: Legacy’s price should be be based on how much effort it took to transform the free versions of the Submachine games into Submachine: Legacy. Are there any other factors that you use to determine what Submachine: Legacy’s price should be?

well yes and there are no other factors i used since as i said you can actually still play all of these for free online right now. so they should only make you pay for the repackaging and updating of these games (you know the work they put in to get them here on steam and working on new computers without the need of a flash player)

If all of the free versions of the Submachine games were taken offline, then would you use other factors?

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

Originally posted by SuperDean:

well yes and there are no other factors i used since as i said you can actually still play all of these for free online right now. so they should only make you pay for the repackaging and updating of these games (you know the work they put in to get them here on steam and working on new computers without the need of a flash player)

If all of the free versions of the Submachine games were taken offline, then would you use other factors?

thats not really a question you can ask since they are on multiple free flash game sites and are even on flash archive sites where you can download them so im not even going to think of a answer to that question nor do i really think i can give a answer to that since i cant think of any other factors since your really just asking what if old free game is no longer free and was removed from the internet everywhere in places they do not control

[Azullia]

This collection's not a 1:1 remastering of the Flash games. There's new (and reworked) content, and the entire thing is not even in Flash anymore. All the visuals have been redrawn / repolished over into a higher quality and put into a new engine (GameMaker), with extra quality of life features as well (such as higher resolutions or optional faster screen transitions).

And as for being able to still play the online versions through something like Flashpoint, well, I suppose if one likes being stuck playing in a tiny window (and are alright without the new content and features), that's fine I suppose.

[Ginger Jesus]

Originally posted by SuperDean:

Originally posted by Ginger Jesus:

If all of the free versions of the Submachine games were taken offline, then would you use other factors?

thats not really a question you can ask since they are on multiple free flash game sites and are even on flash archive sites where you can download them so im not even going to think of a answer to that question nor do i really think i can give a answer to that since i cant think of any other factors since your really just asking what if old free game is no longer free and was removed from the internet everywhere in places they do not control

So, it seems like it really comes down to the fact that Mateusz Skutnik chose to distribute the Submachine games for free in the past therefore he shouldn’t charge for them now (or, at least, he shouldn’t charge for the parts of them that are in Submachine: Legacy).

[splithor1zon]

Also, the HD versions of the flash games were never free, only the SD versions are. I would much rather support small indie developer than multi-national corporation with my money, perhaps that's just me.

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by splithor1zon:

Also, the HD versions of the flash games were never free, only the SD versions are. I would much rather support small indie developer than multi-national corporation with my money, perhaps that's just me.

what do you mean sd hd as far as i can tell the visuals hasn't changed

[Azullia]

Before legacy, there was the free online versions at a low resolution, intended for browsers. There was also the HD version of each game with higher resolution visuals so you could play it with a bigger, clearer image. They were the exact game as their browser counterparts (with better graphics). Those, you also had to pay for.

[SuperDean]

Originally posted by Azullia:

Before legacy, there was the free online versions at a low resolution, intended for browsers. There was also the HD version of each game with higher resolution visuals so you could play it with a bigger, clearer image. They were the exact game as their browser counterparts (with better graphics). Those, you also had to pay for.

how much was those? because i still think 25 is to much