Calling #19 (Devil Ray) 'Oceanic' is kinda misleading

[maeai]

My last fish. Had to look up where it was after spending waaaaay too long searching the south-east (bottom right) corner. It's INSIDE Gale Cliffs, which really doesn't seem like it should be part of the ocean.

[RCMidas]

I get the feeling a couple of spawns were slightly misplaced during development, or became misplaced as more geography was added. That one just happens to be the most egregious.

[sharondornhoff]

"Oceanic" might have less to do with a literal habitat, in this case, than with the fish in question being easier to catch with a specific type of line. Devil rays are big, strong animals that probably need an extra-strong line to haul in, same as the literally-oceanic sharks.

[Shrinkshooter]

It is not misleading unless you don't read the encyclopedia the right way.

"Oceanic" is not a location type, it is a catch type. Each entry has a list of locations, and the one where the fish can be found is highlighted (except in the case of fish that actually CAN be found in open ocean, which aren't highlighted).

Devil Ray has Gale Cliffs highlighted in its entry. So the book outright tells you to go to the cliffs with the ability to catch Oceanic fishes in order to get this one.

[Snackrat]

Yeah, it's not intuitive.

I think the goal is to indicate that the ray is large enough to need *Oceanic gear* (like a winch), that a standard fishing rod isn't strong/long enough. But yeah, for most readers that implies that the ray itself is in the ocean.

The logs at least say that it is found in Gale Cliffs - fish in the open ocean are often not under any region at all. (Which is also unintuitive - I would've liked if 'open water' was also a zone, because at first I thought they were found in a 'spoiler' area I'd unlock later.)

[James.greywolf]

To make your life easier getting the Devil Ray and it's mutation, take out all poles but an Oceanic, get some bait, and wait at the Dusty Pontoon till about 16:00. Sail from there, go around Gale Cliffs and use one of the Southern entry points to go into the Gale Cliff area where you find the Family Crest and the waterfall. Enter the waterfall (the monster never goes in there so you can fish safely). Throw bait into the water and one of only two fish breeds will spawn -- The Devil Ray or the Sturgeon. You will get three spawns per bait. If will go either sturgeon devil ray sturgeon, or devil ray sturgeon devil ray. I had to try, quit game, restart, and retry a few times because I was trying to get the mutant devil ray, but I eventually got what I was after and I was always safe from the monster.

[Lod101]

Originally posted by James.greywolf:

To make your life easier getting the Devil Ray and it's mutation, take out all poles but an Oceanic, get some bait, and wait at the Dusty Pontoon till about 16:00. Sail from there, go around Gale Cliffs and use one of the Southern entry points to go into the Gale Cliff area where you find the Family Crest and the waterfall. Enter the waterfall (the monster never goes in there so you can fish safely). Throw bait into the water and one of only two fish breeds will spawn -- The Devil Ray or the Sturgeon. You will get three spawns per bait. If will go either sturgeon devil ray sturgeon, or devil ray sturgeon devil ray. I had to try, quit game, restart, and retry a few times because I was trying to get the mutant devil ray, but I eventually got what I was after and I was always safe from the monster.

if you are already useing bait, why not use it directly next to the traveling merchant?
it still counts as gale cliff there and will spawn them.