genetics

[TigersFate]

when it comes to horse games, I love genetics. That tends to be a selling point for me. So my question is, does this game have genetics? and how good is said genetics system?

[DatNachtmaehre]

It does have genetics but they are not the realistic. Might change in the future once the game is full released but it's not sure.

At the moment colors/markings are inherited as follows. Base coat of one parent, dilutions from either the dam or the sire and patters same. If you have a cremello and a blue roan have a foal the foal can be any of the following bases Black (all possible shades),Chestnut (all possible shades), Smokey Black, Palomino, Smokey Cream, Cremello and all of them may or may not have roan.

Hope that helps. :)

[TigersFate]

Originally posted by DatNachtmaehre:

It does have genetics but they are not the realistic. Might change in the future once the game is full released but it's not sure.

At the moment colors/markings are inherited as follows. Base coat of one parent, dilutions from either the dam or the sire and patters same. If you have a cremello and a blue roan have a foal the foal can be any of the following bases Black (all possible shades),Chestnut (all possible shades), Smokey Black, Palomino, Smokey Cream, Cremello and all of them may or may not have roan.

Hope that helps. :)

That sounds very not fun. I do hope that they work on the genetics. I know websites that i play for example equinepassion, it has a good genetics system. Horses with flaxen will pass on the gene and if you are lucky somewhere in the lineage you will get a full flaxen foal. Genetics isnt hard, you just have do your research because a fan warrior cats game, a person researched cats genes and made a super cool mod on it. I played it and it is beautiful. I wont buy it now because like i said a big selling point for me is genetics, genetics makes animal games 100% fun for me. I like my little surprises. I looks like a cool game from the videos tho.

[Tila]

I find it's more of a surprise here, given that you can get more outcomes from dam and sire than realistic genetics would give you.
*edit: old equinepassion member here as well (since 2015) ;-)

[TigersFate]

I suppose that is your opinion which is fine. My example about the little flaxen surprise still stands. You have to take in that certain people would want to breed a lineage of horses with a certain gene or pattern which without realistic genetics can make those players not have fun. Also many players when it comes to animal games love the genetics system more than people tend to talk about, it brings fun and mysteries that they never expected from the breeding, this system is just not fun in my mind when it just random picks coats. The dev doesnt have to work on it right away and if they dont want to work on it at all, well that is fine too.

[DatNachtmaehre]

Originally posted by Res:

I find it's more of a surprise here, given that you can get more outcomes from dam and sire than realistic genetics would give you.
*edit: old equinepassion member here as well (since 2015) ;-)

I personally like this fact in a game like Ranch of Rivershine. Since breeding isn't the focus so having this soft version of realistic genetics works just fine. It makes sense but still leaves room for diversity that RL genetics would not tolerate.
And I'm a person who really likes realistic genetics in animal games too. : )

But everybody has their preferences.

[Tila]

yeah I like that too - suits a cozy cute game like this

[lunarwolf4]

The game is not meant to be hyper realistic. The dev is not an expert on horse genetics, and has thus decided to make them simple so that the game can be done without any major issues.
While there is a chance she might choose to work on them more in the future, as it stands the current system is here to stay.

[TigersFate]

Originally posted by lunarwolf4:

The game is not meant to be hyper realistic. The dev is not an expert on horse genetics, and has thus decided to make them simple so that the game can be done without any major issues.
While there is a chance she might choose to work on them more in the future, as it stands the current system is here to stay.

I already know, the game is still cool tho

[BunnyQueen]

part of the simiplicity of color/genetics while mostly due to Eloise not being a horse expert, but the game is cozy and relaxing. Overall chill to play, but she still wants to add more colors?/patterns? in future updates. and every time a new type is added she has to go back and update how old colors will respond. She wants it simply for ease of play for all ages. Its a lot easier to explain to a child ,teen , or non expert horse geneticist that just wants to ride the lovely horses. That a foal can take after one or both parents in base or patterns. foals don't 100% inherit creams or flaxens', but if you want said genes one of the parents must have it. this method gives us a lot of more variety.
I still enjoy breeding while sometimes i wish my foal got the pattern or cream I wanted, while i have to wait for the mare to recover it still keeps me coming back :)

[Jeza]

Does genetics also apply to stats and/or potential ?
Can I hope to get a common horse quality if I breed 2 wild horses for example ? And keep going up and up or is the only way to get a better horse to buy one ?

[DatNachtmaehre]

Originally posted by Jeza:

Does genetics also apply to stats and/or potential ?
Can I hope to get a common horse quality if I breed 2 wild horses for example ? And keep going up and up or is the only way to get a better horse to buy one ?

It does for stats.
The best way to get a foals stats up and up with each generation is trying to even all stats out with the potential you have available. Training them all to the same value even if it means you have to sacrifice potential points.
I for example breed my wild horse that I raised up to 70% in each stat (I had a left over of 2 points) to a bought one I raised to 83% and the foal started off with something in between of those values. Same value in each stat.
The only thing I never managed to breed no matter how often I tried was breeding a 100% foal. Not even out of two 100% parents. The foals all started out between 92 to 98.

[Jeza]

Originally posted by DatNachtmaehre:

It does for stats.
The best way to get a foals stats up and up with each generation is trying to even all stats out with the potential you have available. Training them all to the same value even if it means you have to sacrifice potential points.
I for example breed my wild horse that I raised up to 70% in each stat (I had a left over of 2 points) to a bought one I raised to 83% and the foal started off with something in between of those values. Same value in each stat.
The only thing I never managed to breed no matter how often I tried was breeding a 100% foal. Not even out of two 100% parents. The foals all started out between 92 to 98.

Oh good to know thank you :)
It's nice being able to make a legacy from the first horse you buy !

[Becks]

Originally posted by TigersFate:

You have to take in that certain people would want to breed a lineage of horses with a certain gene or pattern which without realistic genetics can make those players not have fun.

You can still do this, just by eliminating variances in your breeding pairs, for example putting flaxen with flaxen, cream with cream, etc. I understand what you're saying tho, but maybe that will help you for now.

The thing I find most irritating about it is if you have a pattern. Some patterns seem very favored for some reason, in my case Tobiano. Tobiano for some reason has been very prevalent in my pasture, despite my trying to get.. any different pattern or even a plain coat. It's supposed to be a coin flip, but it's felt like Tobiano is favored more than any other. This would be cool if there were combo paterns (tovero, pintaloosa etc) but if you really want your horse to look a certain way, avoid patterned horses.

[Teque]

Loving the colors I am getting from my best pair with the traits I wanted. They are both clever, elegant and harvesters.

[Jeza]

Originally posted by DatNachtmaehre:

Originally posted by Jeza:

Does genetics also apply to stats and/or potential ?
Can I hope to get a common horse quality if I breed 2 wild horses for example ? And keep going up and up or is the only way to get a better horse to buy one ?

It does for stats.
The best way to get a foals stats up and up with each generation is trying to even all stats out with the potential you have available. Training them all to the same value even if it means you have to sacrifice potential points.
I for example breed my wild horse that I raised up to 70% in each stat (I had a left over of 2 points) to a bought one I raised to 83% and the foal started off with something in between of those values. Same value in each stat.
The only thing I never managed to breed no matter how often I tried was breeding a 100% foal. Not even out of two 100% parents. The foals all started out between 92 to 98.

Do your foals always get stats between the parents? Because it's been twice in a row now that I get stats 7 to 9 points lower than the parents who both have the same stats. And that's with the father having the mentor trait that should "gives their foal more inherited skills" so i'm a bit disappointed to be honest.