throw a grenade and die: the simulator

[wingman]

i mean is anyone really surprised when every soldier can get 2-3 grenades in this game? add on resupply and theyre 5... and to add a little more salt to the wound arty is also ridiculously OP... as soon as you spawn expect a 90% chance to die in the next 10 seconds... from arty or a grenade
every game turned into a pissing match of who can throw the most grenades into the objective.
devs please fix this the game is unplayable

[Demonov]

The grenades could use some addressing. Perhaps a limit of how many grenade-owners (just like marksmen with scope) can be present in the company, and maybe a maximum amount of used grenades per wave of offense/defence?

[wingman]

Originally posted by TDG Lord Demonov:

The grenades could use some addressing. Perhaps a limit of how many grenade-owners (just like marksmen with scope) can be present in the company, and maybe a maximum amount of used grenades per wave of offense/defence?

-1 grenade on every class and -1 grenade resupply, possibly a cap on how many players can carry too like marksman and machinegun caps

[wingman]

Originally posted by Stein:

I don’t think limitsting grenades is a good idea. It might possibly ruin the game. the problem is there is no other viable build for the assaulter but to spam grenades. The developers must implement more options for the classes like Verdun.

why would it ruin the game? it was fine before every player unlocked grenades and started spamming them

[Rhino]

I think it is okay the way it is. In many instances in my playtime, grenades were important to soften up the defenses. I also died more often due to rifle shots, than nades.
Never seen a real grenade spam yet.

But that's just my 2 cents.

[wingman]

Originally posted by mik:

I think it is okay the way it is. In many instances in my playtime, grenades were important to soften up the defenses. I also died more often due to rifle shots, than nades.
Never seen a real grenade spam yet.

But that's just my 2 cents.

just finished 2 games where the only way to win was to spam nades because the other side was doing the same. its not important it just shifts the game from a shooter to a nade spamming game, also if you want to see a proper nade party go play the objective and dont stay way back :P

[Rhino]

Originally posted by Jade:

ppl like you are the reason why good games turn into sh*t and die. Devs constantly react to these kind of posts and "fix" what is already good and the majority who just plays and enjoys the game abandon it after a doesn of patches

It seems to me, too many complain, because they just die on the battlefield.
Same with the thread about the HMGs.
When I mount one, I try to take down as many enemies, until I get shot. I don't expect the game to protect me from that.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by wingman:

Originally posted by mik:

I think it is okay the way it is. In many instances in my playtime, grenades were important to soften up the defenses. I also died more often due to rifle shots, than nades.
Never seen a real grenade spam yet.

But that's just my 2 cents.

just finished 2 games where the only way to win was to spam nades because the other side was doing the same. its not important it just shifts the game from a shooter to a nade spamming game, also if you want to see a proper nade party go play the objective and dont stay way back :P

I always play objective, which is why my K/D is so bad.

[wingman]

Originally posted by Stein:

Originally posted by wingman:

why would it ruin the game? it was fine before every player unlocked grenades and started spamming them

No it wasn’t, this game will be on a projectory to have zero players in a couple months if the wrong decisions are made. This game is actually in a very bad situation I think, so it cannot withstand a bad balance change. Look, in Verdun’s system, the people who would carry the most grenades were melee mains. But in Isonzo’s system, anyone can carry grenades, even people with light machine guns can spam grenades which is actually a big problem. They need to make the other perks better because there is little practical reason to not use the grenade crate perk as assaulter.

every ww1 game follows the same pattern, look at tannenberg. truth is, these games dont retain many players no matter what decisions the devs make, thats just how it is most of the time with ww1 games, what matter though is for it to be fun for the time being

[Dr. Gonzo]

I've definitely notice that on some maps. Luckily the devs said they were looking into making some adjustments in one of the next updates.

[North_Dumpling]

Originally posted by wingman:

throw a grenade and die: the simulator

Perhaps you should stop throwing grenades under yourself. Hopefully this helps.

[wingman]

Originally posted by North_Dumpling:

Originally posted by wingman:

throw a grenade and die: the simulator

Perhaps you should stop throwing grenades under yourself. Hopefully this helps.

very funny

[Cerberus]

Originally posted by Jade:

ppl like you are the reason why good games turn into sh*t and die. Devs constantly react to these kind of posts and "fix" what is already good and the majority who just plays and enjoys the game abandon it after a doesn of patches

This starts to be the same discussion as screenshake was. I think for most people it is ok, and some keep screaming in forums. I played several games, and no one turned into a grenade spam. You have to get actually close to throw them, and by the time you close in you will most likely get shot, so what? Take the risk, get the reward, or die trying, that is exactly how I want it to be.
So as I don't feel a problem there and for now never witnessed a big problem ingame, I'm afraid another step will be taken to screw up gameplay just to please a minority.
Nade spam is the same with the cry about artillery, it usually only gets messy if there are few tickets left and everybody rushes to the cap in a hail mary. But these exact situations for me are the most intense and fun to play. Everything shakes, everything explodes, everybody screems and after a real fight one side wins, fantastic! Don't take another step like turning down screenshake to make this game an even bigger camp fest.

[Rhino]

Originally posted by Cerberus:

Originally posted by Jade:

ppl like you are the reason why good games turn into sh*t and die. Devs constantly react to these kind of posts and "fix" what is already good and the majority who just plays and enjoys the game abandon it after a doesn of patches

This starts to be the same discussion as screenshake was. I think for most people it is ok, and some keep screaming in forums. I played several games, and no one turned into a grenade spam. You have to get actually close to throw them, and by the time you close in you will most likely get shot, so what? Take the risk, get the reward, or die trying, that is exactly how I want it to be.
So as I don't feel a problem there and for now never witnessed a big problem ingame, I'm afraid another step will be taken to screw up gameplay just to please a minority.
Nade spam is the same with the cry about artillery, it usually only gets messy if there are few tickets left and everybody rushes to the cap in a hail mary. But these exact situations for me are the most intense and fun to play. Everything shakes, everything explodes, everybody screems and after a real fight one side wins, fantastic! Don't take another step like turning down screenshake to make this game an even bigger camp fest.

this 100%

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

Originally posted by Jade:

ppl like you are the reason why good games turn into sh*t and die. Devs constantly react to these kind of posts and "fix" what is already good and the majority who just plays and enjoys the game abandon it after a doesn of patches

hopefully, and I don't think they do, the devs don't *just* listen to the loudest complainers and are aware most folk don't post as they're "alright" about many situations/issues.

if the devs have managed to release their third game they can't be all that incompetent to knee jerk react to the first complaint.

I think the devs are best at judging how they want their game to be but welcome constructive feedback.

[wingman]

Originally posted by Cerberus:

Originally posted by Jade:

ppl like you are the reason why good games turn into sh*t and die. Devs constantly react to these kind of posts and "fix" what is already good and the majority who just plays and enjoys the game abandon it after a doesn of patches

This starts to be the same discussion as screenshake was. I think for most people it is ok, and some keep screaming in forums. I played several games, and no one turned into a grenade spam. You have to get actually close to throw them, and by the time you close in you will most likely get shot, so what? Take the risk, get the reward, or die trying, that is exactly how I want it to be.
So as I don't feel a problem there and for now never witnessed a big problem ingame, I'm afraid another step will be taken to screw up gameplay just to please a minority.
Nade spam is the same with the cry about artillery, it usually only gets messy if there are few tickets left and everybody rushes to the cap in a hail mary. But these exact situations for me are the most intense and fun to play. Everything shakes, everything explodes, everybody screems and after a real fight one side wins, fantastic! Don't take another step like turning down screenshake to make this game an even bigger camp fest.

its not a minority, and just because you didnt witness it doesnt mean it doesnt happen. people just get frustrated and quit the game most of the time, screenshake was also a problem so why dont you start giving some feedback for the game instead of "it didnt happen to me" copypaste
nobody likes a death simulator, if thats how you like it fine, but dont assume you are the majority, the majority quit the game long ago after getting frustrated time and time again, playerbase dropped by half in just a few days, why the hell would i play if ill get exploaded randomly everytime i spawn