No custom match XP?

[Alpharius Omegon]

I previously have played both Verdun and Tannenberg with a small group of friends, and we exclusively play custom games as playing online is not enjoyable for us. I bought Isonzo after reading multiple posts about how they still had custom games with bots, only to find that the new progression system (which is fantastic) completely bars you from playing custom matches without first unlocking everything through online pvp. If you want anything other than the starting equipment for each class, you first have to go online and play however many hours it takes to unlock everything.

I just want to have fun with my friends, and we were all looking forward to this game, so why has this been removed since Tannenberg? I get that it forces people to play online, but what about the people who don't want to? the people like my friends and I who enjoyed the previous games without ever going online?

[Anderson]

I hope they change this, i only bought for custom match as well.

[MaybeJustice]

If you play a custom match with the advanced settings turned on you won't be able to gain XP. Playing with the advanced settings off you will be able to level up as normal.

[Shorty]

this is a bummer for me. was about to buy the game. now with this sad info i pass until its changed.
we played verdun and tannenberg a lot on all kind of platforms but mostly offline and we had a lot of fun.
now without offline progression its a no go. it would be perfect for the steam deck :(

[Blaze]

true for me too, hope they change it soon

[namapo]

If you don't mess with server settings, you can get unlocks and XP against bots. They'll auto-fill your server so you don't need to go into advanced settings and lose the ability to get XP. I'm already level 6 with the Officer's semi-automatic pistol from 1 match with bots.

[namapo]

I genuinely wish you guys would stop posting this because I almost legit skipped out on this game when y'all started saying bots wouldn't give you progression, only to use my eyes and read the disclaimer about XP the game gives you when you enable advanced server settings.

[qake]

Hey, you can still earn XP in custom matches! You don't earn XP only if you turn on advanced custom match options as that allows for XP exploits. Feel free to ask any questions about this

[Shorty]

Originally posted by qake:

Hey, you can still earn XP in custom matches! You don't earn XP only if you turn on advanced custom match options as that allows for XP exploits. Feel free to ask any questions about this

Offline too? then its a buy for me

EDIT:
Tested offline. works fine, got Xp, unlocks, Medals, Achievements.
you can even set offline in the server selection.

that was i was hoping for :)

[Aurora]

Originally posted by qake:

Hey, you can still earn XP in custom matches! You don't earn XP only if you turn on advanced custom match options as that allows for XP exploits. Feel free to ask any questions about this

Why is AI difficulty under the advanced options? Would it be possible to change that to allow us to alter the difficulty of the ai? It feels very unfair to fight at times.

[Alpharius Omegon]

Originally posted by qake:

Hey, you can still earn XP in custom matches! You don't earn XP only if you turn on advanced custom match options as that allows for XP exploits. Feel free to ask any questions about this

Really appreciate the response! This completely changes my opinion on the game. If you don't mind me asking, what can be exploited by adjusting the additional options? surely changing the bots difficulty could be tied to how much xp is rewarded after a match? same with ability cooldown time, both reducing xp for easier and shorter and increasing xp for hard difficulty and the longer recharge time. Also, not sure the friendly fire mechanic should be locked behind the advanced options, as surely having it off as the base setting is an exploit in itself? How can i enjoy shooting my friends in the back if i know i'll get no experience from the battle? other than that, the game is incredible, and a big step up from the previous two. The entire team should be proud!

[Shorty]

found out that steamcloud dont work right now ? or its intended?. on every system i have a different savegame so that means the savegame is local so you can exploit it anyway pretty easy (even with standard notepad).
so please dont ruin the advanced game settings because of this^^

[Ryu]

Originally posted by Plooble:

Why is AI difficulty under the advanced options? Would it be possible to change that to allow us to alter the difficulty of the ai? It feels very unfair to fight at times.

Was hidden because of the new unlock system, people could abuse bots to speed through all the unlocks. It's a blow to those of us who just play against bots/offline but a necessity for the multiplayer side of the game. I hope they would consider a separate profile for playing offline like Call of Duty Black Ops Combat Training mode.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Ryu:

Originally posted by Plooble:

Why is AI difficulty under the advanced options? Would it be possible to change that to allow us to alter the difficulty of the ai? It feels very unfair to fight at times.

Was hidden because of the new unlock system, people could abuse bots to speed through all the unlocks it's a blow to those of us who just play against bots/offline but a necessity for the multiplayer side of the game. I hope they would consider a separate profile for playing offline like Call of Duty Black Ops Combat Training mode.

An easier fix without hurting those who play against bots, would be to adjust the amount of xp awarded for playing with easy, normal, and hard AI accordingly

[Ryu]

Originally posted by Plooble:

An easier fix without hurting those who play against bots, would be to adjust the amount of xp awarded for playing with easy, normal, and hard AI accordingly

Don't forget that unlocks also require objectives to be completed, like sabotaging enemy MGs(and more I just can't remember what), which could be done easier against bots.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Ryu:

Originally posted by Plooble:

An easier fix without hurting those who play against bots, would be to adjust the amount of xp awarded for playing with easy, normal, and hard AI accordingly

Don't forget that unlocks also require objectives to be completed, like sabotaging enemy MGs(and more I just can't remember what), which could be done easier against bots.

Another middle ground would be to do something like Battlefront 2 did, and just have everything unlocked for offline play. That way you can't grind but you don't really need to grind.