Predator is severely underpowered and it may break the game soon

[High Noon]

Ok so, for real, - the predator is underpowered, especially at higher level game play and vs higher level expierieced Fireteam's. Here's why that, and mission being to short and underwhelming are going to contribute to breaking this game. -

Simply put the Predator is THE PREDATOR. The ultimate hunter. it should be FEARED by fireteam, not be the one being hunted. the fireteam should at all times be on their toes, and if they come at the predator the plasma caster full charge, combi stick throw, and smart disc should do one shots against advancing targets. The combi stick and smart disc are incredibly hard to score hits with and require the predator to be standing completely vulnerable. In addition non of the predators weapons auto track like in the lore you have to aim them which makes the predator much more vulnerable. There should be a weapon fire mode switch for this where you can auto track with the predators weapons. I mean For lore reasons, balancing reasons, and just cool factor and the way it should be these weapons should all be one shotters in a 1 v 4 setting otherwise the advanced fireteam just has too much in their bag to push with, too much health spread out over too many players, and the predator has nothing strong enough to push back with and ends up just jumping around from tree to tree like a chicken with its head cut off just to barely survive and watch them get to the choppa over and over and over again. I mean Comm'on people.

All 4 fireteam members do not die from one shots they are merely downed, this is another reason that these usually powerful predator weapons should be one hit. The ratios of health points, damage, etc and time it takes to finish missions for a 4 v 1 are completely out of whack and entirely in the favor of advanced fireteams at the moment since a one shot would not even be an kill. and then there's always reinforcements so its so easy for fireteam, Its no challenge!

The Predator should be FEARED! - Anyone who doesn't want a challenge fighting in a jungle ranged or melee against a predator shouldn't be a part of this predator universe because they simply don't have the proper respect and appreciation for the lore and what this is supposed to be. The Smart disc, combi stick, and fully charged plasma caster is just intelligence insulting mickey mouse bs if they don't one shot, and A healthy fully intact predator 1 v 1 fighting against human weaponry will ALWAYS win against a human. And thats part of the respect, fear, and appreciation for the superiority of the predator and what MAKES IT the predator. I mean the name of the game is Predator hunting grounds, not Fireteam hunting grounds. Common man. Thats just the way it is. If the predator doesn't have its proper spots of superiority then it is no longer the predator it is something else, and thats not what many are playing the game for, they want to play the game to BE the Predator and hunt Prey. So If you're stupid enough to be a lone wolf against the universes greatest hunter thats your mistake, learn from it.

in 87 the Predator had the schwartz fully submitted and beat in case you forget, including his world renowned ELITE fireteam and himself were all KIA if the predator didn't have any honor and widen his blades to give him an honor fight rather than decapitate him like he easily could have.

All 4 advanced Fireteam working together at high level is more than enough DPS to keep a rightfully more dangerous predator at bay, even if that predator has a couple tools in the bag as it rightfully should, that one shot. The Pred having a couple tools that one shot will prevent the incessant fireteam pushing against the predator that is taking place now that make it become the prey and break the game. That is the whole point of the predator is super advanced, hardcore, highly specialized weapons that are designed for single target hunting and don't really damage multiple targets at once, yet the predator is up against 4 players at a time. For all of these reasons and several others people have stated I really feel the predator needs to get a few weapons buffed back up to their rightful place of intensity and respect and make the predator a predator again, and not the prey.

Long story short - Buff a couple of the Predator's weapons, (Not too much to ask for) and make the missions a bit more involved and a few minutes longer.

Easy fix - Add a realism Quick play mode - for more hardcore players looking for a challenge, - where the combi stick throw - fully charged plasma - and smart disc one shot etc. things like that and add an arcade mode - for playing more like it is now.

I mean with how broken this crap is right now you could do a 2 v 4.. 2 preds vs 4 fireteam and the fireteam still might win sometimes. THIS ♥♥♥♥♥ BROKE!

[Mtown043]

git gud

[CruelOath]

The pred does not need a buff, this is a game and making it so op would kill the fireteam player base. I think the pred actually needs to be nerfed. Someone who knows how to play pred can kill your whole team in 30 seconds.

[Samael]

For PVP against expierienced gamer Predator (scout) is underpowered or the weapons are to weak or not fast enough to hit a enemy in my opinion.
For example i hit a gamer with plasma cannon and than 3-4 times with the katana and he jumped away.
For example today i hit a gamer direct 3 times with the plasma gun normal shot. The gamer hanged during this on the rope of the helikopter and escaped. (by the way the window in sight in the end of the game nerves).
For example i catched a gamer with the netgun in the "airport"mission. We was on the roof of the hangar and he fall through the open window and run away. His friends shot me into pieces by the way.
I tried to hit enemy with the axe. enemy is fast enough to jump away, the same with bow or plasmacaster...and more situations.
I like the game but im not shure about this balance.

[Pekmez Pita]

Originally posted by Mtown043:

git gud

I concur.

[Codyiguess]

Originally posted by Fox:

The pred does not need a buff, this is a game and making it so op would kill the fireteam player base. I think the pred actually needs to be nerfed. Someone who knows how to play pred can kill your whole team in 30 seconds.

No, any good player will tell you the pred is not op. the fire team needs a nerf is what it is. when they added specializations to the team, the game got screwed.

[PoetiC_Oddity]

Every game I play as a new player I get 1 shotted by every predator so what needs to be buffed exactly?

[Hyp3rst0ne]

I fully agree with you.

The game is totally unbalanced and it is basically a poor 4 players in traditional 1stperson shooting aka your "slippers game", versus a solo predator player where the game shout at you that you are very strong and superior, but your gameplay feels like you are paraplegic and unable to even approach your target for a silent kill aka "the truman show" .... i mean come one... its a shame.

Why not 2-4 commandos vs 2-4 narcos, vs 1-2 preds?
Why not a 4-6 players battle royale in LA streets, with as many preds or FT you want?
Why FT, in this game, can soak a full load of NPC's M16 point blank shot in the neck and be alive?
Why NPC are just a 0 damage , 0 threat level , 0 interest background thing?
Why no NPC target for Pred?
Why the pred cant butcher everything? where are the flayed? skulls?
Why no ZOOM in pred helmet? :'(
Why no multiple vision mode in pred-helmet?
Why the pred cant listen/spy to mission dialogue, to determine the path of marines and trap them? (it can be a hack game in the game...)
Why no traps and survival tactics for FT?
Why no auto-track weapons for pred (plasma cannon and disc) and same for FT but in the form of large immobile artillery-like equipement on maps?
Why no honor code for Pred making him changing style, and allow the last survivor to kill him with knife?

And most of all : Why give a overcheated weapon to the Predator that is ... the BOW????? a HUMAN primitive weapon ...coming from nowhere... for a alien hunter from space with a full technological arsenal... that dont even need it...???!!! pityfull.

[Sephiroth]

OP everyone knows the predator is under powered. You are right.
The thing is for every 1 predator player there are 4 dishonest fire team players that want to claim the game is fine... WHICH ITS NOT.
p
AT HIGH LEVEL PLAY PREDATOR WILL 100% LOSE

it turns into a game where 4 humans are hunting the alien instead.

[I BEAT OTZ]

why then i stomp on every fireteam? even scary so-called "death squads"

[CruelOath]

Originally posted by Alucinor:

why then i stomp on every fireteam? even scary so-called "death squads"

I dont know how people are saying pred is bad, I'm winning like 85% of my games as pred. You just gotta make a decent loadout. I dont even use the bow.

[Tsun Tzu]

I've been on fireteams that have utterly annihilated Preds...some of them don't seem to understand that taking a trophy means you're going to get damaged. And the 12 gauge is a bit fun when you're taking a dozen rounds to the face.

But then I've played games where the Pred spends the entire time cloaked and spamming plasma shots. Over. And over. And over. And over. It's annoying as ♥♥♥♥, but effective. Can't really do anything about it either.

And then there are the Preds who just straight up bullrush you, annihilate one or two team members, then run off. It's basically GG at that point.

You can stand there and unload all the heaviest stuff at the guy with two or three people, and it's still not fast enough to prevent a downing or two.

Lastly- there are the Predators that I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ despise for how much I envy their ability to play the game, but genuinely respect. The ones that actually play like a Predator. They'll use equipment, the trees, sneak up on you, use emotes, and take pot shots to force you toward traps. Pick off members who stray just a bit too far from the group. And end the match by ripping your spinal column out in a cinematic. The whole 9 yards.

Suffice it to say, there's a bit of a skill gap.

So, even as someone who sucks as a Predator due to complete lack of experience...git gud.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Alucinor:

why then i stomp on every fireteam? even scary so-called "death squads"

Very simple answer. Your response is clearly an exaggeration. I also win most of my games.

Your wins and my wins do not = a balanced game.

Balance is determined BEFORE a game is even played. Its math and logistics my man.

What you are talking about is just winning that has to do with skill plus the previous.

First you balance a game THEN you let the players LEARN how to play.

Look at it like this this game could have been released with a stronger predator and all the FT players would still learn to play the game regardless.

Human nature we often like to take the easy route.
Most players are going to naturally argue that the predator does not deserve a buFF
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PLAY BETTER.

In actuality its brain dead easy for a FT to beat the predator.

The predator has zero chance to take on the 4 man team as it currently stands. They have enough DPS to kill him in 2 seconds when he is at FULL HP.

So you have absolutely zero argument. I can literally tell you if I wanted to that if the fire team simply turned and engaged a predator EVERY TIME he comes to hunt them.... they would easily fight him off... but they should actually kill him if they were good because they would spot him and shoot him dead.

Its EZ BEING THE FIRE TEAM.

P.S. Just because you play vs players that are bad does not mean game is balanced.
--When you get to my level and see a professional FT they will hunt you all game and you won't be able to engage without being shot out of the trees or wherever you are cloaked. They will find you and they know they have the numbers (math) on their side. They can attack you kill you and even if you kill 1 fire team they can revive him back up from the ground while the others pummel you. Never mind a objective to reinforce the whole team.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by GrandTheftWaifu:

I've been on fireteams that have utterly annihilated Preds...some of them don't seem to understand that taking a trophy means you're going to get damaged. And the 12 gauge is a bit fun when you're taking a dozen rounds to the face.

But then I've played games where the Pred spends the entire time cloaked and spamming plasma shots. Over. And over. And over. And over. It's annoying as ♥♥♥♥, but effective. Can't really do anything about it either.

And then there are the Preds who just straight up bullrush you, annihilate one or two team members, then run off. It's basically GG at that point.

You can stand there and unload all the heaviest stuff at the guy with two or three people, and it's still not fast enough to prevent a downing or two.

Lastly- there are the Predators that I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ despise for how much I envy their ability to play the game, but genuinely respect. The ones that actually play like a Predator. They'll use equipment, the trees, sneak up on you, use emotes, and take pot shots to force you toward traps. Pick off members who stray just a bit too far from the group. And end the match by ripping your spinal column out in a cinematic. The whole 9 yards.

Suffice it to say, there's a bit of a skill gap.

So, even as someone who sucks as a Predator due to complete lack of experience...git gud.

You are literally wrong here.
The 4 player FT has enough DPS to kill any of the predators at full HP in 2-3 seconds.
So your long paragraphs there only tell us that you are missing and thus playing bad.

You do know you can spot a predator while cloaked right? you do know you can spot falling leaves, birds, etc... right?
You do know that you gave tools.... that can spot the predator right?

You have 4 players and enough damage to kill the predator twice over between the 4 of you. So you need to get better at shooting and spotting and the most important!!! thing is to stick together and ENGAGE predator as a TEAM. You can't have 1 dude fighting the predator while the other 3 are running off... naturally he is going to die most likely.

But I could argue I have seen good FT players that can 1v1 a predator as well.. so.. but you should not count on that but its possible.

You can revive your team mates... .if you have to revive need to have 2 people attacking predator while 1 person revives teammate. You are a TEAM so you need to PLAY LIKE A TEAM. To many noobs who are bad at the game who actually want to talk about balance its a joke really.

Learn the game first.

[Pekmez Pita]

Originally posted by Lichdom:

Originally posted by GrandTheftWaifu:

I've been on fireteams that have utterly annihilated Preds...some of them don't seem to understand that taking a trophy means you're going to get damaged. And the 12 gauge is a bit fun when you're taking a dozen rounds to the face.

But then I've played games where the Pred spends the entire time cloaked and spamming plasma shots. Over. And over. And over. And over. It's annoying as ♥♥♥♥, but effective. Can't really do anything about it either.

And then there are the Preds who just straight up bullrush you, annihilate one or two team members, then run off. It's basically GG at that point.

You can stand there and unload all the heaviest stuff at the guy with two or three people, and it's still not fast enough to prevent a downing or two.

Lastly- there are the Predators that I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ despise for how much I envy their ability to play the game, but genuinely respect. The ones that actually play like a Predator. They'll use equipment, the trees, sneak up on you, use emotes, and take pot shots to force you toward traps. Pick off members who stray just a bit too far from the group. And end the match by ripping your spinal column out in a cinematic. The whole 9 yards.

Suffice it to say, there's a bit of a skill gap.

So, even as someone who sucks as a Predator due to complete lack of experience...git gud.

You are literally wrong here.
The 4 player FT has enough DPS to kill any of the predators at full HP in 2-3 seconds.
So your long paragraphs there only tell us that you are missing and thus playing bad.

You do know you can spot a predator while cloaked right? you do know you can spot falling leaves, birds, etc... right?
You do know that you gave tools.... that can spot the predator right?

You have 4 players and enough damage to kill the predator twice over between the 4 of you. So you need to get better at shooting and spotting and the most important!!! thing is to stick together and ENGAGE predator as a TEAM. You can't have 1 dude fighting the predator while the other 3 are running off... naturally he is going to die most likely.

But I could argue I have seen good FT players that can 1v1 a predator as well.. so.. but you should not count on that but its possible.

You can revive your team mates... .if you have to revive need to have 2 people attacking predator while 1 person revives teammate. You are a TEAM so you need to PLAY LIKE A TEAM. To many noobs who are bad at the game who actually want to talk about balance its a joke really.

Learn the game first.

Git gud!

[Sora]

Originally posted by Pekmez Pita:

Originally posted by Lichdom:

You are literally wrong here.
The 4 player FT has enough DPS to kill any of the predators at full HP in 2-3 seconds.
So your long paragraphs there only tell us that you are missing and thus playing bad.

You do know you can spot a predator while cloaked right? you do know you can spot falling leaves, birds, etc... right?
You do know that you gave tools.... that can spot the predator right?

You have 4 players and enough damage to kill the predator twice over between the 4 of you. So you need to get better at shooting and spotting and the most important!!! thing is to stick together and ENGAGE predator as a TEAM. You can't have 1 dude fighting the predator while the other 3 are running off... naturally he is going to die most likely.

But I could argue I have seen good FT players that can 1v1 a predator as well.. so.. but you should not count on that but its possible.

You can revive your team mates... .if you have to revive need to have 2 people attacking predator while 1 person revives teammate. You are a TEAM so you need to PLAY LIKE A TEAM. To many noobs who are bad at the game who actually want to talk about balance its a joke really.

Learn the game first.

Git gud!

And you sir should be tarred and feathered :)