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[DOOM THE PRIME EVIL]

you need to add a skip to the arm wrestling mini games as its not possible for someone with nerve damage in their hands to win ever

[FEYADA]

Originally posted by DOOM THE PRIME EVIL:

you need to add a skip to the arm wrestling mini games as its not possible for someone with nerve damage in their hands to win ever

Are you talking about the tavern owner? Lose to him once and you will learn how to win him.

[Drusyc]

Originally posted by FEYADA:

Originally posted by DOOM THE PRIME EVIL:

you need to add a skip to the arm wrestling mini games as its not possible for someone with nerve damage in their hands to win ever

Are you talking about the tavern owner? Lose to him once and you will learn how to win him.

Even with the easiest people, with max intimidate, i had to use a controller to cheese it; even then, i often lost.
I can confirm, it's not accessible to those with bad hands; everything else works great though.

Suggestions:
Much less loss when hitting the wrong button
0.2 - 0.5 sec of vulnerability to loss on switch
Bind "Bonus" and "Trap" to Up.
Slight - moderate added gain on lower ranked opponents

[Jeruzalem]

uhmm. im not really sure how you guys played this minigame, but i figured out that simply pressing multiple keys on the keyboard, plus clicking the mouse buttons, simultaniously, made me cheese through it. like. i think i won from the tavern owner in like...4-5 seconds doing this? not that hard. unless...you were using one hand when fighting the tavern owner...? i dont judge.

[Osmium]

You don't HAVE to beat the tavern owner to finish the game. He gives you a thousand gold and a skill point, which is nice, but not worth injuring yourself over or getting frustrated due to a disability. I thought I was going to have to give up after a dozen failed attempts and sore hands. I suspect this was balanced to work best on the phone touchscreen version of the game and they made something "good enough" for the PC version.

Like the person above me, I eventually cheesed it by combining keyboard and mouse buttons. By pressing right/left with one hand and clicking the on screen button with your other, you effectively move twice as fast as the game expects you to. If you lose or start go to into the red, scroll up and retry. I was able to start off going right so quickly that I won before he even changed directions.

I'm personally not a fan of minigames like this that can physically hurt the player. I sincerely hope they never patch out the ability to do this workaround.

[MasterFool]

I get what the dev was trying to do but these 'clicker' style games pretty much suck all the way around. They aren't good for your hands, forearms, mouse or keyboard.

It could easily have been done as a horizontal version of fishing (which is also a bit too much clicking for my tastes but at least there are breaks in it... sort of.)

I would have chosen to do it as a timing game, much like the critical meter in the combat area but with two bouncing pointers, one you control and one the computer does. As you start to win (or lose) your pointer gets 'trapped' on the win or lose side, bouncing off the edge. So if you click poorly (further away from the line) than the computer on their side, the slider moves accordingly. The more you are winning or losing, the tighter your clicks have to be but the computer has to wait if it's on the other side giving you more 'clicks' to move the pointer than it. This lets the 'loser' have clicks faster but they can be more disastrous because the shorter the time, the harder the timing is. It's far fewer clicks or key clacks and it's still challenging from a timing perspective.

[Hmarka]

Ok i just write it. You can bit all arm wrestling quest with afk mod without any effort.
All you need to do it's clicking on icon and left or right arrow key on keyboard at the same time. and it's accelerate your progress x2-3 times.
not need spend skill point or lose first time and give wine.
but it's big abuse so don't reed it

[Mowerman]

Only one that is is a no win is tavern owner, but after first fight you find how to beat him. Other fights are a get good situation.

[Drusyc]

Originally posted by Mowerman:

Only one that is is a no win is tavern owner, but after first fight you find how to beat him. Other fights are a get good situation.

This is about people who have bad hands; in OPs case, he has permanent nerve damage, and in mine, I have a permanent mild disability. "Git gud" isn't exactly good advice here

[curve.empty.buzz]

A program called AutoHotKey can be helpful for gamers (or anyone) on Windows based devices. It lets you script simple or complex actions triggered by key or key combinations. In this case, two macros can be made. One to rapidly press the right arrow, one to rapidly press the left arrow. If your hands aren't good, and you play games that need rapid or frequent input in a predictable way, it's a great tool to have in your toolbox.
Bonus, most generative AI's know how to program for it, so getting it set up can be very quick even if you don't feel comfortable programming.