Auctions are stupid

[Mr.Heroin]

1. u get less
2. you need to stay afk to bid, for what since:
-IF YOU HAVE A LEGENDARY CAR: bid is useless, someone will just buyout at a point
-ANY NON LEGENDARY MAXED CAR: no one bids
3. ppl can't bid more than the buyout? you sell the best carr in the game and u get crap

[TheHuskyGT]

When did you start playing? Because the golden days of the Auction House are pretty much over. We're at the end of life cycle for this game. Most players have every car now. We made our fortune from it. I just give rare and legendary cars for free because I have no use for in-game money anymore.

And yes, the non-written rules of the AH are simple. If you really want a rare/legendary car, be ready to insta buy it. If you want to play the bid game, do it with common cars.

If you're selling a maxed common car, no one is going to buy it. It's easier and often cheaper for them just to go to the game's autoshow and buy it there. I personally don't want someone else's crap, unless it was a rare car that I missed. I'll just end up deleting the tune/paint and all upgrades to do it myself.

[el tejón roja]

Yeh pretty much that... I don't bother bidding, I just buy it at list price, less hassle that way.

Equally selling cars, when I can be bothered I put a load of duplicates to auction at minimum buy out price and they either sell or not.

More often I just gift or delete duplicates as its faster and I don't need the credits.

If I win a car that I already have, if its less than 100,000 and I have the option I'll just insta-sell it for whatever price, or if it's worth more than 100,000 i;ll just gift it there and then.

Life is too short!

[harbinger]

Yes - Auctions in this game are very stupid and slow.

- people should be able to sell their car for whatever value they want - if your excuse is that certain amazing cars are very common, then you should not have made amazing and rare cars, like IE, so common in the game
- people should be able to easily and quickly change the prices after the bid started
- cars should automatically return to the garage after they failed to be sold
- you should be able to buy cars that were part of past festival playlists from dealers - the auction system should only be a way to get a car for a smaller price
- sht fat cars cost more than IEs

There are more problems.

[KingKickAss]

The bidding system is terrible, yeah. You have to keep refreshing it yourself to see updates, and really all that matters is that you're the person who throws their bid in last before it expires. There's no point in bidding on something unless you're in like the last 10 seconds of it.

Its really stupid.

[Mr.Heroin]

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

The bidding system is terrible, yeah. You have to keep refreshing it yourself to see updates, and really all that matters is that you're the person who throws their bid in last before it expires. There's no point in bidding on something unless you're in like the last 10 seconds of it.

Its really stupid.

-no if ur 10 sec of it it resets to 1 min
-only once i bought a car with 400k less, out of 100 bids, every time when u bit over 40% of the price one guy buyouts every car... THE HECK YOU DON'T JUST INSTANTLY BUYOUT, just to fk other ppl bid
-can't bid over the price limit anyways so you still get less for a car
-60% of the cars you cannot even get 6k on em cuz no one buys
-you want a car just buy it out and maybe put some few lucky bids on higher startingprices , with a little luck no one will bid for them, and out of 50 bids you get 300k-700k more credits

[CascadeHush]

Having an auction system with an arbitrary ceiling is not an auction, it's just a fixed price with extra steps. And nobody is going to sell a Suburu 22B for the maximum price set by the game so it automatically excludes any genuinely rare cars.

Common cars worth less than, say 50k, should be excluded because they just clog up the auction house with crap that anybody can get from wheelspins or just buy. DLC cars should not be in the auction house because it's confusing for new players. Or at the very least hide cars I can't buy from the list so I never see them.

The only real use for the auction house it to buy reward cars from recent events you didn't complete for whatever reason. That's how I got my McLaren 12C.

Ideally You'd have a genuine auction system with out arbitrary price limits and the ability to put in buy orders so you don't have to sit there searching the auction house.

But then I'm sure there would be people who would abuse that somehow like people selling credits or something. So we can't have nice things because of cheaters.... or something like that. In which case it shouldn't be in the game at all. Just provide a way for people to get the cars they want. Well I guess we have backstage passes now so maybe they will all end up in the backstage eventually. At which point why not just put them in the shop. Why introduce a secondary premium style currency into a paid game.

The whole thing is dumb. But I have my McLaren.

[KingKickAss]

Originally posted by Mr.Heroin:

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

The bidding system is terrible, yeah. You have to keep refreshing it yourself to see updates, and really all that matters is that you're the person who throws their bid in last before it expires. There's no point in bidding on something unless you're in like the last 10 seconds of it.

Its really stupid.

-no if ur 10 sec of it it resets to 1 min

Don't think so. I've seen a ton of people pile their bids in the last moments and the sale rolled over. The UI and entire system is terrible.

[vongdong]

What ♥♥♥♥♥ me about the auction house is buyers/bidders.

There's like 10 cars available of what I searched. None have bids and they all have about the same starting and buyout price. I bid on the one ending the soonest and some a-hole buys it out.

[CascadeHush]

Originally posted by vongdong:

What ♥♥♥♥♥ me about the auction house is buyers/bidders.

So your annoyed that a system that is designed to allow for multiple buyers to bid on auction has buyers who want to bid on actions? That sounds like a you problem.

Originally posted by vongdong:

There's like 10 cars available of what I searched.

If there are that many available, it sounds like something pretty common you could just buy in the shop. Or something low value that people don't really want.

Originally posted by vongdong:

None have bids and they all have about the same starting and buyout price. I bid on the one ending the soonest and some a-hole buys it out.

A person buying a car at the auction house for the buy-out price is not an a-hole. They are doing exactly what the system allows them to do. You make it sound like they have some vendetta against you. Chances are they just opened up the auction house, saw the first one on the list and clicked buy. It had nothing to do with the fact that you were bidding on it. It's not personal.

As I said above, it's not really an auction, it's a fixed-price shop with extra steps. Maybe once in a while you get a bargain if you want to hang around in there. But you could do something else, like actually play the game and earn the credits to just buy the car outright, either from the shop or using the buyout price.

[LordErec42]

The auction house is a symptom of the larger problem of the online economy which requires things to arbitrarily scare to function. Might work in some games, but in Forza it unnecessarily gatekeeps players from enjoying cars they like since the devs chose to make somebody's favorite car "exclusive" so they have to jump through a bunch of annoying hoops like the auction house to get it or do the playlist (which is just a bunch of chores that has to be done in an arbitrarily limited amount of time) to get the car.

[CascadeHush]

Originally posted by LordErec42:

The auction house is a symptom of the larger problem of the online economy which requires things to arbitrarily scarce...

Yeah, at a certain point you paid for the game, it's taking up space on your hard drive, and yet there is stuff in there you can't get. OTOH they want to provide incentive to do weeklies, etc, etc... OTOOH there are more cars in the game than you can reasonably drive and way more cars than there would have been in most games 10 or 20 years ago. OTOOOH it really sucks when you can't get that one car you really like. OTOOOOH maybe you should find something you like from the hundreds you probably already have.

It could be argued that at least they do allow trading between players. OTOH it shouldn't be necessary...

95% of the time I drive the 1999 Lotus Elise for road races or the Celica GT for rally. I just dip into the game casually from time to time and cycle through race events. Neither of these cars would have been the one I set out to get, they were the ones I fell in love with because I had them and got a nice tune. The fact I own hundreds of cars is not of great benefit to me anymore.

[Duke Igthorn]

ya'll missing the point. Cash really has no value. You can simply get way more then you'd ever need. So complaining about auctions using value-less cash is like complaining about a hang-nil on a hand that's already been cut off.

[CascadeHush]

Originally posted by Duke Igthorn:

ya'll missing the point. Cash really has no value.

It mattered to OP and that's the point under discussion, amongst a bunch of other points that were raised along the way. It is true that cash really has no value in the long run and nobody actually said that yet so it's a fair point to bring up. To say everybody is missing the point is just rude.

[el tejón roja]

I wish you could filter the auction house by 'cars not owned' instead of having to select a manufacture and model.

[PanPan]

Originally posted by Duke Igthorn:

ya'll missing the point. Cash really has no value. You can simply get way more then you'd ever need. So complaining about auctions using value-less cash is like complaining about a hang-nil on a hand that's already been cut off.

Cash takes times. Sure after 300h you should have more cash than needed.
At beginning, some people will want better prices or missed cars,
But bid is a waste of time : most of the time someone or bots will instant buy.
You can't sell to a friend and winning a bid is luck or a no name car.
Auction has no sense for digital. All cars should be in Autoshow.
It's like TCG, fake rarety and collection are scams...