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On top of that it has some of the very best tracks in this series history.
But I guess people will complain about everything, I'm sure people will coplain if next entry is in Japan that many requested.
It's not difficult to guess where the next game will be at.
Northern half of map is a large open space devoid of signs of civilization. Double that on Winter, when everything becomes gray and brown.
Boring openess of map is most likely due to it being designed for Eliminator. Which unironically took away from Eliminator, because now most goalpoints can be reached just by bullcharging it, while trying not to hit randomly placed boulders.
??? They're flat and mostly devoid of technical sections, you can take most corners by just releasing gas. Dirt tracks, that SHOULD be more technical are like that too, which is why hypercars rule them. Cross country tracks are trash. Sure, most of FH4 tracks were trash as well, but it at least had few good ones that required more than engine power.
One thing I will defend though, is town of Guanajuato, which made of interesting racing location with its twisted roads. It still feels devoid of life though, but last town/city in series that looked like place people live in was Surfers Paradise.
Doesn't make crittique of map design in FH5 any less valid.
What I'm readiong is "I don't like deserts and Mexico map has deserts". While I wish we would have a piece of Mexico city I think the locations are more than inspired, especially if you ever visited Mexico.
Well, a video speaks louder than words so here goes:
https://youtu.be/r1xK6PRk1DU?si=wSqyDlNJUe4xnISr
You don't like the map for personal reasons but is boring UK any better, like really? Get real for a minute.
I don't know what you're even on about here. there are plenty of technical sections all over the map from the city and the tunnels to the mountain rioads (both asphalt and dirt). I
On top of that you have tons oif great vistas from the cawscadas, the aerodroma and the piente grande. Most tracks in the jungle are a ton of fun and way better tracks than the dirt tracks in FH4. The mouintain road looks at the one in Treasure Island and stomps it etc etc...
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Doesn't make it more valid either, in fact this guy sums it up way better than I do:
https://youtu.be/6mdlN0RwvNw?si=itPj89-C-Z_lFGJj
FH5 sure has a ton of flaws but FH4 isn't better in every way, in fact FH4, in my opinion, has the most boring map in the whole series. A amap that is only saved by a great season gimmick.
Note that I am not trying to convince you of anything, you're free ro have a strong opinion about whatevber but, if we take a step back and really looks at the big picture, FH5 is an improvemenrt on FH4 in almost every way and especially the map and location.
I suppose we just like different kind of tracks. I generally found trickier tracks in FH4 and Rally expansion for FH5 far more to my liking.
Unrelated. Your argument is that people will always complain. My response is that, while true, it doesn't make critique irrelevant.
Also, have you considered that criticizing something does not make critique of the other thing invalid? I'm not criticizing FH5 map to claim superiority of FH4 map, if that's what you're getting onto. They both suck compared to FH3 map anyway, and I'll defend this claim with sharpest pitchfork I can find.
Get your eyes checked, 3every corner of the map has something interesting to see from rivers to old temples to curious gheological places ect... Sure, if all you do is running the highway it gets boring very quick. What did you expect in the canyon except a canyon vista? Saying that everyone hates the map is a fallacy, the game is teh most played Horizon to date despite FH4 being still readily available and many people, me included, love the maps and its actual diversity. You're missing the "wow so much to see" in boring UK? Feel free to go right back in anytime.
No, you're criticizing FH5 maps saying "its empty" and it is clearly not, theres one desert part (that is pretty fun to drive on with buggys and other 4x4 that als contains beautiful beaches and a very nice residential area, the volcan with its pretty great roads, its snowy top on season and its oservatory along teh geological station.
Others parts of the maps have jungles, canyons, temples ect ect... I don't see the emptyness really and that's even talking about teh city that is pretty beautifully rendered and fun toi drive in alongside Mulege.
It io only emptyif you consider a desert or a canyon or even a jungle boring. To me all these things are far from boring and theres plenty to see in this map.
And , of course, I was waiting when will FH3 come to teh table. Sorry to break it to you but, save the city that was the only "real" modern city in an Horizon game, the maps is less dioverse in FH3 and more empty considering it is also a lot smaller. Feel free to remove those rose tainted glasses anytime, they are clearly tainted in nostalgia.
Some parts of FH3 were better, syue and teh map, for the time was great but it ain't better than FH5 map, not even close.
That I can agree on, the progression system is also pretty terrible to be honest and the stories go from cringe to forgettable.
There is ton of room for improvement and the game feels like it lacks soul in parts. I really hope they do improve on the next entry, still a great game in a great map tho but it sure could be better.
This guy nails the problems in FH5 pretty well imho:
https://youtu.be/ITTggaUYFvk?si=hGZW7bG9YRpnGp_m
No one said it? also fallacy isn't untrue statement, but falty reasoning that leads to wrong conclusion
Again, you assume I only criticize FH5 map because I fanboy for FH4 map.
I made it pretty clear, if first post in fact, that my critique is of Northern part of map, where there are no jungles, rivers, temples, picturesque towns, or anything pretty for that matter.
Maybe diversity souldn't be the main goal, but feeling like a real, living place, rather than collection of theme parks?
That's not even FH4 vs FH5 (vs FH3?) argument, just more broadly regarding open world design. Design by checkboxes.
It's quite obvious from me and Lordofthebread argue, that we have completely different tastes when it comes to open world and track designs. That's obviously going to be issue when making "game for everyone" like FH. Some will not be fully satisfied with taste of dish they got.
Let's just agree to disagree already.