Forza fans are confusing

[octylMan]

I know i'll get crucified for saying this but...

If you criticise the physics of the game, they say "You do know the physics is supposed to be arcade right? You do know it's not meant to be realistic right? If you want realistic, go play Assetto Corsa or something."

But if you so much as consider a non forza racer to be fun, they go "THAT GAME IS TRASH PHYSICS IS SOOOO UNREALISTIC AND ARCADEY UNLIKE FORZA WHICH IS BEST IN DA WOOOOOOORLD!!!"

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Also, off-topic but is it just me or is forza NOT built racing focused? I only have forza horizon 3 but noticed how poorly the tracks are built. sharp turns immediately after a jump or a jump while in a turning road, npcs spawning in turning roads, npcs racers' speed not affected by pavement, speed traps placed in the most unconventional locations, drift zones infested with slow drivers blocking the path, hugging walls on turns retain more speed than slowing down and turning, etc.

the off-road races make my hair fall out from how frustrating it is. The cars completely freak out once off the ground, top it off with the npcs having perfect grip and it gets annoying. I even tested them out by ramming them off the course only for them to recover in an instant. Meanwhile, my car starts sliding like I'm driving on ice after ramming them.

For reference, I play all difficulties maxed out besides rewind enabled, and transmission set to auto.

The fans bashing on arcade physics of other games combined with my issues makes this game feel like a glorified car tuning/driving simulator than a racer.

[Swarmfly]

The more cars, the bigger the map, the wider scope of things, the more unpleasable the fanbase.

[PanPan]

People have different taste. I like arcade, not simu.
The physic in the game is very good because it comes from simulation.
With traction and brake assist, it's very pleasant to drive (better than GTA or NFS).
Weirdly, i hate direction assist because you can't do left-right fast.

- But being able to shortcut in dirt with road tires without being slow down...
- IA is cheating, you can clearly see it in X : trash car are insane when the IA drives...
- Some race are easy in unbeatable, some dirt one are impossible if you do 1 mistake...
- IA tries to ram you (already saw it going way too fast and straight into a wall missing me in corner...)
- The trajectory line on the ground is often not the best
- Game is like a F2P (but isn't) with expensive DLC and casino lootboxes...

So yes racing isn't great but it's my favorite driving game (gameplay and graphics are god tier).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvGDKynVORc

[zabloing]

I feel like your issue is that you've created in your head some twisted image of Forza fans as some kind of monolith, and then proceeded to have an argument with it right there.
You then somehow lost said argument and concluded that "Forza fans" are "confusing".

[Txmvs]

Get used to society double standards my boy.

[shitass]

Some forza fans just live in their own bubble where forza horizon is the perfect game series and will have a hissy fit whenever someone says something slightly negative about any of the forza games.

[kireta]

OP, I'd have to see argument you talk about, because I've feeling we're missing a lot of context here. What aspect of physics, and what other games are you talking about?

[octylMan]

Originally posted by zabloing:

I feel like your issue is that you've created in your head some twisted image of Forza fans as some kind of monolith, and then proceeded to have an argument with it right there.
You then somehow lost said argument and concluded that "Forza fans" are "confusing".

God no I steer clear from arguing online since I have nothing to gain. Those are just what I noticed in comment sections of other racing games on youtube.

[octylMan]

Originally posted by kireta:

OP, I'd have to see argument you talk about, because I've feeling we're missing a lot of context here. What aspect of physics, and what other games are you talking about?

Me personally? I hate the off-road physics, I feel like the game was mainly built around smooth surface driving because cars go CRAZY once off-road and getting air-time. It's actually the main reason I have rewind on, otherwise I'd go insane from how many times I'd have to restart race because my car decided to break dance upside down.

To see fans excuse the physics, search up "forza horizon physics issue" or something.

To see fans praise the physics, just watch a youtube video of a different game's review and see the comment section.

One of the most apparent and open d-ride I noticed was on those videos comparing driveclub graphics with forza. The comment sections are infested with people saying driveclub is inferior because the physics are arcadey.

[DaKaR87]

Hello, I need help urgently. I can't log in to the game and I need someone from the service

[ph!l]

Originally posted by lowca17:

Hello, I need help urgently. I can't log in to the game and I need someone from the service

@lowca17 none of us are from 'the service' but you can find your solution here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1551360/discussions/0/4040357717322920397/
You've posted in a completely unrelated topic.

[ph!l]

It's all preference there's no right, wrong, greatest or best. I have friends who believe Need for Speed is the best arcade racer, so be it, whatever gives them the best entertainment, I'm all for it.

Personally I think Forza is hands down the best but I'm not going to try and convince anyone that believes otherwise. It's where I get the most entertainment. Does that make me a fan? yes probably does. Am I going to go around the internet convincing people in comment sections? No I won't.

From the millions of Forza 5 players, I think using the minority of online trolls as the average 'fanbase' isn't very accurate. Enjoy whatever game best suits you dude. At least we have options.

[kireta]

Originally posted by octylMan:

Me personally? I hate the off-road physics, I feel like the game was mainly built around smooth surface driving because cars go CRAZY once off-road and getting air-time. It's actually the main reason I have rewind on, otherwise I'd go insane from how many times I'd have to restart race because my car decided to break dance upside down.

I don't think there's many players to actually LIKE cross-country in FH5, pretty much any topic here about it is blasting it. I dare to say game would be better off without it. I can work with it, it's not difficult, just all-round awful.
Where did you find people defending it?

[edit]
If you play on Unbeatable, then of course it will be unreasonably hard! You not only face AI with almost unlimited grip, but also scripted to rubberband away from you if you start gaining on it!


A little tip on presenting a problem: you actually have to present it, don't tell people to search for it themself. They won't, and they'll likely dismiss your arguments as you being angry and incoherent. No one pays attention to that.

[Long Niar™]

All I want to see in this game is manly men with beards and manly voices.

[Joey Two Bastards]

gay troll is gay

[SillieBillie~]

Don't mess with us Forza Fans we don't know what we want.