Fast and Furious X Car-Pack Paid DLC huh ??? Why we buy Premium Edition ?? :d

[akif de Vil.]

If future DLCs are paid, is there a need for a Premium version?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2676380/Forza_Horizon_5_Fast_X_Car_Pack/

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Origineel geplaatst door Qun:

LMAO.

Another Forza fan came to say that Forza Horizon 5 is the best car game in the world. XDDDD

Laugh your twot off too while you're at it. I said nothing of the sort.

I agree with what you say.
I'm not biased to Forza, I play any openworld racers.

NFS have the best stories but once the campaign is over it's all but done. The physics aren't good and haven't been since Porsche Unleashed. (50 hour games).

I've put a lot of hours into the Crew franchise, more than any other car games I own and although the physics are pretty good, it is a grindfest, Ubisoft style (like all their games). It's not 'here go do 10 different races, it's here go do 1 race 10 times. Ubisoft are also king of microtransactions, they make PGG look like amateurs.

We all have our own expectations of what we expect from a game, there's no winner and loser. The more options we have in the genre the better it is for us.

Although I generally enjoy Ubi games over most others I play, Forza is still my favourite open world racer. It's far from perfect but still the better of the bunch imo.

[olc]

Origineel geplaatst door akif de Vil.:

HotWheels and Rally DLC were not good. Yes, the maps were big, but they were empty. The races on the Hot Wheels map were ridiculous. Moreover, we could not choose and drive the car we wanted. It was a good idea in terms of thought, but the implementation was weak.

Rally DLC is mehh.New cars and a new map. It's better than the HotWheels DLC, but there's not much new. Bringing DLC ​​before solving a game's problems is nonsense.

-Multiplayer mode has too many problems. After each race, the CREW is dispersed by the game. How ridiculous :D

-Modification and customization are still insufficient.

-Artificial intelligence works ridiculously. They are like tanks, we can't push them

-There are many bugs in the game. Moreover, crash errors continue.

In short, yes, Forza Horizon is very successful in terms of graphics and presentation. But the inside of the game is EMPTY. At the beginning of the game, he gives us hundreds of cars. The events and races are ridiculous and not fun. Seriously, do you do anything other than wander around in Forza Horizon 5?

I've played and finished a lot of car games in my life. Forza is so overrated. They don't even look at the game anymore because of their fans.

There is nothing innovative in Forza. Would you go back and look at forza horizon series? They are all the same, only the maps and events are different :D There is no story or purpose.

Sorry for the grammar mistakes. English is not my first language.

Origineel geplaatst door cajindian:

A "need"? You mean a want.

The Premium version gets you a set amount of content that you clearly see ahead of time at this point in time and it's alot of content. The Pemium version being bought before the first expansion was revealed/released was rolling the dice on how much content, but those days are long over. Hot Wheels wasn't too little it was an unrelated mini-game.

Still, $100 is a fair deal for the base game and it's rally expansion and a huge map and a ton of stuff rolling around in it. $100 is alot of money, we all agree, but it is not extraordinarily expensive. Look around the Steam store. AAA games, in full, are at least $70. And that could get you a fine 20 hour long singleplayer story to complete.
...Game over.

How many vehicles and years of their creation should $100 get you? Give me a number and future date, I say. Otherwise I gotta think you want free content indefinitely. An all you can eat for years bottomless buffet the game cannot be. These packs of cars are a take it or leave it offering, not a burden. You aren't being billed for content you didn't order.

Might you really want these particular cars and $10 is too much, or just feel slighted because all potential cars are your's?

sorry, but hot wheels is QUITE good. amazing tracks. amazing map, nice selection of hot wheels cars in "realistic" mode. and if you dont know. there are 2 new racing games Hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2, filled with DLC and in this case the tracks and cars are "miniature" made of metal or plastic (according their original manufacturing model) and they are quite good games even better than forza.
Rally was a minimal map expansion with crap rally cars that really outside the rally events, the new mechanic of having the AI screaming at you "GO LEFT - STOOOOOP - FULL REVERSE - INCOMING BUMP - RIGHT NOOOOOOOOWE UWU" etc was moronic and not helpful. they forgot we already have a talking GPS since at least FH3.
i own FH3-FH4-FH5 and i can tell you, the LEGO expansion on 4 was complete garbage. the "real" person and forza horizon event are teleported into a "magical" miniature lego size buildings and people where real racing cars and LEGO made cars works in the same manner... so combustion engines can work in metal hardware OR plastic lego pieces and not melt down instantly... sure! (im beeing totally sarcastic btw)

[the bat kite]

Origineel geplaatst door TybeeMutt:

What pisses me off the most, is that even if the DLC cars end up in auction I can't buy them unless I paid for the DLC... WHY!?!?!?

Unless that's a new rule with these five Fast and Furious ones, you can buy these cars at auction. I've sold several of them. You cannot gift them, however.

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Origineel geplaatst door TybeeMutt:

What pisses me off the most, is that even if the DLC cars end up in auction I can't buy them unless I paid for the DLC... WHY!?!?!?

Unless that's a new rule with these five Fast and Furious ones, you can buy these cars at auction. I've sold several of them. You cannot gift them, however.

With all of the dlcs before, you have to own the dlc to be able to buy it from the auction house

[the bat kite]

Origineel geplaatst door olc:

Origineel geplaatst door akif de Vil.:

HotWheels and Rally DLC were not good. Yes, the maps were big, but they were empty. The races on the Hot Wheels map were ridiculous. Moreover, we could not choose and drive the car we wanted. It was a good idea in terms of thought, but the implementation was weak.

Rally DLC is mehh.New cars and a new map. It's better than the HotWheels DLC, but there's not much new. Bringing DLC ​​before solving a game's problems is nonsense.

-Multiplayer mode has too many problems. After each race, the CREW is dispersed by the game. How ridiculous :D

-Modification and customization are still insufficient.

-Artificial intelligence works ridiculously. They are like tanks, we can't push them

-There are many bugs in the game. Moreover, crash errors continue.

In short, yes, Forza Horizon is very successful in terms of graphics and presentation. But the inside of the game is EMPTY. At the beginning of the game, he gives us hundreds of cars. The events and races are ridiculous and not fun. Seriously, do you do anything other than wander around in Forza Horizon 5?

I've played and finished a lot of car games in my life. Forza is so overrated. They don't even look at the game anymore because of their fans.

There is nothing innovative in Forza. Would you go back and look at forza horizon series? They are all the same, only the maps and events are different :D There is no story or purpose.

Sorry for the grammar mistakes. English is not my first language.

sorry, but hot wheels is QUITE good. amazing tracks. amazing map, nice selection of hot wheels cars in "realistic" mode. and if you dont know. there are 2 new racing games Hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2, filled with DLC and in this case the tracks and cars are "miniature" made of metal or plastic (according their original manufacturing model) and they are quite good games even better than forza.
Rally was a minimal map expansion with crap rally cars that really outside the rally events, the new mechanic of having the AI screaming at you "GO LEFT - STOOOOOP - FULL REVERSE - INCOMING BUMP - RIGHT NOOOOOOOOWE UWU" etc was moronic and not helpful. they forgot we already have a talking GPS since at least FH3.
i own FH3-FH4-FH5 and i can tell you, the LEGO expansion on 4 was complete garbage. the "real" person and forza horizon event are teleported into a "magical" miniature lego size buildings and people where real racing cars and LEGO made cars works in the same manner... so combustion engines can work in metal hardware OR plastic lego pieces and not melt down instantly... sure! (im beeing totally sarcastic btw)

Lego "cars" and Legoland was retarded. The Hot Wheels unrelated mini-game, a roller-coaster theme park a mile high up in the sky with it's unsupported orange loop-dee-loop tracks w/o guardrails, and all this invisible to the naked eye for those of us on the game's Mexico reproduction game map, was not retarded. It was not a FH5 game expansion. The rally/baja racing map and tracks was.

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Origineel geplaatst door cajindian:

Unless that's a new rule with these five Fast and Furious ones, you can buy these cars at auction. I've sold several of them. You cannot gift them, however.

With all of the dlcs before, you have to own the dlc to be able to buy it from the auction house

Huh. Then all of my customers were buying the exact same cars they already owned.

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Origineel geplaatst door IHaveALotOfBraincells:

With all of the dlcs before, you have to own the dlc to be able to buy it from the auction house

Huh. Then all of my customers were buying the exact same cars they already owned.

"Can you buy DLC cars in the Auction house?
Players who own the DLC for a particular car can buy and sell those DLC cars in the Auction House, but players who don't own the DLC will get an error message when trying to bid on DLC cars. "
https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4410231515667-Forza-Horizon-5-Auction-House

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Origineel geplaatst door IHaveALotOfBraincells:

With all of the dlcs before, you have to own the dlc to be able to buy it from the auction house

Huh. Then all of my customers were buying the exact same cars they already owned.

Strangely enough yes, that's how it works. People must be collecting them or something. Even the Oreo exclusive is in the AH but if you've never redeemed one yourself you can't buy it.

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Origineel geplaatst door cajindian:

Huh. Then all of my customers were buying the exact same cars they already owned.

Strangely enough yes, that's how it works. People must be collecting them or something. Even the Oreo exclusive is in the AH but if you've never redeemed one yourself you can't buy it.

I guess I sold nearly ten from all out of all of the DLC packs released so far. I'm keeping all the Fast and Furious ones. I don't get the flip car and would part with it, but I'll bet it is not selling in auction very well. Why did P.G. make that one? Well, each pack has had one "dog" car included. I remember a regular ol' late model commuter VW Golf being sold in a Speed Pack DLC.

So people are buying the DLC cars and then going in and rebuying the same cars in the Auction House. I see. That does make sense to get two of a particular pack's car. You can't purchase the car pack but one time.

But I did go and look at some of what those DLC cars I bought were selling for in the Autostore and sometimes the prices were reasonable. As a DLC car pack buyer I could use the store to get a second 'copy' of any of them.

Auction prices for anything new in the game is steep, usually. A way to make multiple millions on one car is to grind for a seasonal reward one, only to auction it off immediately. It's a hard way to make a killing in the game.

[olc]

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Origineel geplaatst door olc:

sorry, but hot wheels is QUITE good. amazing tracks. amazing map, nice selection of hot wheels cars in "realistic" mode. and if you dont know. there are 2 new racing games Hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2, filled with DLC and in this case the tracks and cars are "miniature" made of metal or plastic (according their original manufacturing model) and they are quite good games even better than forza.
Rally was a minimal map expansion with crap rally cars that really outside the rally events, the new mechanic of having the AI screaming at you "GO LEFT - STOOOOOP - FULL REVERSE - INCOMING BUMP - RIGHT NOOOOOOOOWE UWU" etc was moronic and not helpful. they forgot we already have a talking GPS since at least FH3.
i own FH3-FH4-FH5 and i can tell you, the LEGO expansion on 4 was complete garbage. the "real" person and forza horizon event are teleported into a "magical" miniature lego size buildings and people where real racing cars and LEGO made cars works in the same manner... so combustion engines can work in metal hardware OR plastic lego pieces and not melt down instantly... sure! (im beeing totally sarcastic btw)

Lego "cars" and Legoland was retarded. The Hot Wheels unrelated mini-game, a roller-coaster theme park a mile high up in the sky with it's unsupported orange loop-dee-loop tracks w/o guardrails, and all this invisible to the naked eye for those of us on the game's Mexico reproduction game map, was not retarded. It was not a FH5 game expansion. The rally/baja racing map and tracks was.

lego land was retarded. rally/baja racing was like a beta levels from FH5 added into the game with the stupid AI screaming at you where to drive as if you where blind.
hot wheels map is insane? yes. its fun to free roam? totally. has the coolest cars ingame (at least visually) for sure. i am a fan of hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2 and those games are way insane than the FH5 map. the thing is if you are NOT a hot wheels fan then its not your cup of tea. but its not a bad DLC. watch HWU2 race and tell me its not like FH5 but in miniature (btw hot wheels games are way older than FH they started in ps1 era)
https://youtu.be/IRq9ZUR9Nyw?si=CcLbyQkB17wdPhl-&t=240

[popsicle]

That Fast and furious Charger is ridiculous. I downloaded this tune that had such a huge jump, on launch the car is pointing at the sky. This should not be legal lol.

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Origineel geplaatst door cajindian:

Lego "cars" and Legoland was retarded. The Hot Wheels unrelated mini-game, a roller-coaster theme park a mile high up in the sky with it's unsupported orange loop-dee-loop tracks w/o guardrails, and all this invisible to the naked eye for those of us on the game's Mexico reproduction game map, was not retarded. It was not a FH5 game expansion. The rally/baja racing map and tracks was.

lego land was retarded. rally/baja racing was like a beta levels from FH5 added into the game with the stupid AI screaming at you where to drive as if you where blind.
hot wheels map is insane? yes. its fun to free roam? totally. has the coolest cars ingame (at least visually) for sure. i am a fan of hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2 and those games are way insane than the FH5 map. the thing is if you are NOT a hot wheels fan then its not your cup of tea. but its not a bad DLC. watch HWU2 race and tell me its not like FH5 but in miniature (btw hot wheels games are way older than FH they started in ps1 era)
https://youtu.be/IRq9ZUR9Nyw?si=CcLbyQkB17wdPhl-&t=240

I have no problem with P.G. making their own version of the few Hot Wheels games out there. Do it. Get in on the fun and profits, just don't sell on the FH5 storefront. Give it is it's own store somewhere else.

But P.G. pulled a Legoland on Forza Horizon players in the FH game sequel. There are two games that are Forza Horizon and they both have unrelated mini-games being passed-off as expansions of each. They are not.

In Forza Horizon 4 you occassionally have to race against a plastic blox Lego AI that is running at 150 mph with you in singleplayer. Oh, look a Mini-Cooper with luggage on top blowing by the S2 900 I bought/made/am using.
That is some annoying toy ♥♥♥♥ company they make me keep even though I passed ENTIRELY on Legos.

Both toy Lego's race concept and Hot Wheels roller-coaster theme race park are off map. Legos has to be because it is not FH4 and Hot Wheels has to because it is not FH5.

I like the Hot Wheels cars, some of them. Well, most of them. I don't mind them being put into my singleplayer race AI competition. P.G. has made them into convincing-looking real working race cars. But don't slip in the theme park in the sky though and tell me that we're (P.G.) fulfilling $20 of the Premium purchase you made.

The rally/baja expansion is as legit as it gets if you look back at [what] you KNEW you wanted enough in terms of content/setting/activities behind the wheel...to buy up-front in this Forza Horizon sequel. First it's England, a gorgeous game, and now it's way over to grande uncivilized! Mexico

EDIT TO ADD: speaking of England and the island expansion that might be a fantasy Isle of Skye, player "olc," the FH5 game map is all Mexico. If that isn't as insane cool enough then you bought the wrong game for your tastes. If the rally expansion new land and it's tracks (all kinds represented, btw) and some new authentic vehicles from the real world was just sub-FH5 material IYO then that means you don't like rally racing; period. But you can take your Twin Mill out on some harrowing fast street tracks they made.

The rally expansion was the only true expansion of FH5. Just imagine if the Hot Wheels game was not a little game being peddled on the FH5 storefront and that P.G. had made something real, down to earth, on the game's map that included new varied terrain and plantlife, a natural landmark or two, tracks of the type both FH games provide (four choices), a new house to buy and maybe a business to buy/operate, a town or city made, and houses and citizens along the new public roads created..........

That is what Premium buyers deserved but did not get. I will not believe P.G. again when they sell Premium games with the up-front promise of two expansions. Anything "car"-related, real or fake and probably legostupid can be Forza Horizon. Now we all know this.

I skipped the Legos B.S. in buying the first game. I thought that, SURELY, that sort of thing they had learned was an embarrassing company decision and would not repeat it in the sequel lest they risk ruining the reputation of the, now, 2 game 'franchise.'

In a rally race you have a co-pilot who gives you road conditions as you go along. In Mexico, rally racing is a natural and so there it is. Th screaming AI are your co-pilots. The game maker decided to have them radio their information to you from above instead of seating them in the passenger seat. Many many FH players have never played a rally racing game. They fault P.G. for following every last rally race game on the market in doing this realistic *to rally racing* thing. There have been probably four or five threads of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in unison about the helicopter following them around making noise and blowing up dust.

[olc]

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Origineel geplaatst door olc:

lego land was retarded. rally/baja racing was like a beta levels from FH5 added into the game with the stupid AI screaming at you where to drive as if you where blind.
hot wheels map is insane? yes. its fun to free roam? totally. has the coolest cars ingame (at least visually) for sure. i am a fan of hot wheels unleashed 1 and 2 and those games are way insane than the FH5 map. the thing is if you are NOT a hot wheels fan then its not your cup of tea. but its not a bad DLC. watch HWU2 race and tell me its not like FH5 but in miniature (btw hot wheels games are way older than FH they started in ps1 era)
https://youtu.be/IRq9ZUR9Nyw?si=CcLbyQkB17wdPhl-&t=240

I have no problem with P.G. making their own version of the few Hot Wheels games out there. Do it. Get in on the fun and profits, just don't sell on the FH5 storefront. Give it is it's own store somewhere else.

But P.G. pulled a Legoland on Forza Horizon players in the FH game sequel. There are two games that are Forza Horizon and they both have unrelated mini-games being passed-off as expansions of each. They are not.

In Forza Horizon 4 you occassionally have to race against a plastic blox Lego AI that is running at 150 mph with you in singleplayer. Oh, look a Mini-Cooper with luggage on top blowing by the S2 900 I bought/made/am using.
That is some annoying toy ♥♥♥♥ company they make me keep even though I passed ENTIRELY on Legos.

Both toy Lego's race concept and Hot Wheels roller-coaster theme race park are off map. Legos has to be because it is not FH4 and Hot Wheels has to because it is not FH5.

I like the Hot Wheels cars, some of them. Well, most of them. I don't mind them being put into my singleplayer race AI competition. P.G. has made them into convincing-looking real working race cars. But don't slip in the theme park in the sky though and tell me that we're (P.G.) fulfilling $20 of the Premium purchase you made.

The rally/baja expansion is as legit as it gets if you look back at [what] you KNEW you wanted enough in terms of content/setting/activities behind the wheel...to buy up-front in this Forza Horizon sequel. First it's England, a gorgeous game, and now it's way over to grande uncivilized! Mexico

EDIT TO ADD: speaking of England and the island expansion that might be a fantasy Isle of Skye, player "olc," the FH5 game map is all Mexico. If that isn't as insane cool enough then you bought the wrong game for your tastes. If the rally expansion new land and it's tracks (all kinds represented, btw) and some new authentic vehicles from the real world was just sub-FH5 material IYO then that means you don't like rally racing; period. But you can take your Twin Mill out on some harrowing fast street tracks they made.

The rally expansion was the only true expansion of FH5. Just imagine if the Hot Wheels game was not a little game being peddled on the FH5 storefront and that P.G. had made something real, down to earth, on the game's map that included new varied terrain and plantlife, a natural landmark or two, tracks of the type both FH games provide (four choices), a new house or two a business to buy/operate, a town or city, houses and citizens along the new public roads..........

That is what Premium buyers deserved but did not get. I will not believe P.G. again when they sell Premium games with the up-front promise of two expansions. Anything "car"-related, real or fake and probably legostupid can be Forza Horizon. Now we all know this.

I skipped the Legos B.S. in buying the first game. I thought that, SURELY, that sort of thing they had learned was an embarrassing company decision and would not repeat it in the sequel lest they risk ruining the reputation of the, now, 2 game 'franchise.'

In a rally race you have a co-pilot who gives you road conditions as you go along. In Mexico, rally racing is a natural and so there it is. Th screaming AI are your co-pilots. The game maker decided to have them radio their information to you from above instead of seating them in the passenger seat. Many many FH players have never played a rally racing game. They fault P.G. for following every last rally race game on the market in doing this realistic *to rally racing* thing. There have been probably four or five threads of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in unison about the helicopter following them around making noise and blowing up dust.

first there is a hot wheels DLC since forza horizon 3. and in the 3 one is WAY more insane since it was build over an australian popular beach, witch took many of the coast sky scrapers and added structures on the rooftop to add loops of orange tracks. so its not a brand new idea add hot wheels into FH5 its tradition.
its fine if you hate the hot wheels brand. nobody forced you to get the DLC unless you pay the super ultra premium whatever edition (as i did) and the cars are cool no matter if they are hot wheels branded or not. you cannot compare any of the hot wheels cars to the stupid plastic toy lego cars on FH4 WITCH you needed to unlock not just to buy ingame.
EDIT:
in FH3 and FH5 once you leave the hot wheels map, supposedly is disassembled since it was a marketing stunt (no idea horizon festival has infinite money to do temporal plastic tracks with gigantic supports in the middle of nowhere) so its not like in-game universe we have in australia and in mexico gigantic hot wheels gigantic tracks for anyone to roam them. here is a video of FH3 with the tracks build from buildings and twisting around australia itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvhvW3oc7s

[LocalCatMom~]

Making threads like this should just be an instant ban from now on because we're just going to see it happen on every release of a new DLC and every new Forza game going forward.

[MelinaVilka]

okey furry boy or girl

Origineel geplaatst door SnowMew~:

Making threads like this should just be an instant ban from now on because we're just going to see it happen on every release of a new DLC and every new Forza game going forward.