The Trial races...

[the bat kite]

Is anybody selling their lottery entry tickets? Scalpers, hello. Officials open to bribes, hello.

I need a spot. If won, against unbeatable avatars and fellow living players, that's 10 points, which is half of the current Hot Wheels seasonal events car's price. That'd put me on the car dealership's sales floor.

[el tejón roja]

huh?

[the bat kite]

I can't get in. I'm just trying to be humorous about not getting a spot in the first Time Trial race. That entry will keep you in all the races up until the end.

I have 10, I think, points already.

I want it. It's relatively inexpensive. I just need a place in The Trial. The game 'chooses' to boot me out repeatedly. Well over ten times...over a couple of hour's of ho-hum racing and roaming about, off-road, early this morning with nothing better to do.....

Uugh. Trickling-in reward cars for doing many this-and-thats of their design are all the game maker company has to offer to people who have already played everything to death. Games don't last forever.

The time countdown display, up top, disappears over and over and over again. It does it at two minutes or at one minute, or MADDINGLY at 20 seconds. No cause of death detectable. I've tried and retried until I want to pull my hair out. Countdowns that go to zero seconds lead me to nothing whatsoever. Twice I made the session, it said, and then was immediately dropped.

>>>I figure the system is overwhelmed with online players. The two main seasonal events, if aced, yield the 20 points. Eventually I just turned it off because of this inexplicable blockage on their end of their online game's functioning.

>>>Is the system overwhelmed? Is that it? ...a million people trying to get that HW Pontiac Firebird? Or is it a malfunction? I tried a few minutes ago to start the game again, and it would not load. The opening cutscenes just cycle over and over again.

I'm tired of this game's 100 problems, I tell you what.

I am a singleplayer guy in this game. At seven hundred hours in I see nothing else to make the game interesting anymore. Seasonal Events reward cars are all that's new to me, and they are just too much work, usually. The Camaro 'Exorcist' is a three star eight times in a row deal.

Of the next four cars only this custom Firebird is 20 points. The others are 40, 80, and 120. Absurd.

[Fytch]

Originally posted by cajindian:

I can't get in. I'm just trying to be humorous about not getting a spot in the first Time Trial race. That entry will keep you in all the races up until the end.

I have 13, I think, points already. The Hot Wheels Firebird is not toy-based (not a car of Mattel toy's design). It's a real one- and-only car a man made for himself. It's mostly called a Firebird because he used the Pontiac's bodily outsides!

I want it. It's relatively inexpensive. I just need a place in The Trial. The game 'chooses' to boot me out repeatedly. Well over ten times...over a couple of hour's of ho-hum racing and roaming about, off-road, early this morning with nothing better to do.....

Uugh. Trickling-in reward cars for doing many this-and-thats of their design are all the game maker company has to offer to people who have already played everything to death. Games don't last forever.

The time countdown display, up top, disappears over and over and over again. It does it at two minutes or at one minute, or MADDINGLY at 20 seconds. No cause of death detectable. I've tried and retried until I want to pull my hair out. Countdowns that go to zero seconds lead me to nothing whatsoever. Twice I made the session, it said, and then was immediately dropped.

>>>I figure the system is overwhelmed with online players. The two main seasonal events, if aced, yield the 20 points. Eventually I just turned it off because of this inexplicable blockage on their end of their online game's functioning.

>>>Is the system overwhelmed? Is that it? ...a million people trying to get that HW Pontiac Firebird? Or is it a malfunction? I tried a few minutes ago to start the game again, and it would not load. The opening cutscenes just cycle over and over again.

I'm tired of this game's 100 problems, I tell you what.

I am a singleplayer guy in this game. At seven hundred hours in I see nothing else to make the game interesting anymore. Seasonal Events reward cars are all that's new to me, and they are just too much work, usually. The Camaro 'Exorcist' is a three star eight times in a row deal.

All of the six new cars are 20 points each.

wtf did i just read?

[Eternal Wanderer]

It's not supposed to happen. Like, at all.

Getting in a trial isn't a first come first served affair. I mean it maybe is, but there are infinite trials that you are supposed to be able to get in.

And surely I haven't seen the system being overwhelmed when it comes to trials.

I guess you have some kind of Xbox services connectivity issue going on in there.

I'd start by finding Xbox Networking in Windows settings and try hitting the "Fix it" button after network diagnostics.

It probably won't do much, but I can't really give you a better answer than Google would.

All I could say is that the problem you seem to experience doesn't sound normal at all.

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by Fytch:

Originally posted by cajindian:

I can't get in. I'm just trying to be humorous about not getting a spot in the first Time Trial race. That entry will keep you in all the races up until the end.

I have 13, I think, points already. The Hot Wheels Firebird is not toy-based (not a car of Mattel toy's design). It's a real one- and-only car a man made for himself. It's mostly called a Firebird because he used the Pontiac's bodily outsides!

I want it. It's relatively inexpensive. I just need a place in The Trial. The game 'chooses' to boot me out repeatedly. Well over ten times...over a couple of hour's of ho-hum racing and roaming about, off-road, early this morning with nothing better to do.....

Uugh. Trickling-in reward cars for doing many this-and-thats of their design are all the game maker company has to offer to people who have already played everything to death. Games don't last forever.

The time countdown display, up top, disappears over and over and over again. It does it at two minutes or at one minute, or MADDINGLY at 20 seconds. No cause of death detectable. I've tried and retried until I want to pull my hair out. Countdowns that go to zero seconds lead me to nothing whatsoever. Twice I made the session, it said, and then was immediately dropped.

>>>I figure the system is overwhelmed with online players. The two main seasonal events, if aced, yield the 20 points. Eventually I just turned it off because of this inexplicable blockage on their end of their online game's functioning.

>>>Is the system overwhelmed? Is that it? ...a million people trying to get that HW Pontiac Firebird? Or is it a malfunction? I tried a few minutes ago to start the game again, and it would not load. The opening cutscenes just cycle over and over again.

I'm tired of this game's 100 problems, I tell you what.

I am a singleplayer guy in this game. At seven hundred hours in I see nothing else to make the game interesting anymore. Seasonal Events reward cars are all that's new to me, and they are just too much work, usually. The Camaro 'Exorcist' is a three star eight times in a row deal.

All of the six new cars are 20 points each.

wtf did i just read?

Somebody please tell this effectively illiterate dingleberry what he read. I'm not going to rephrase it just for him.

[loppantorkel]

The game isn't very stable and I've been booted from the occasional race, but it's still rare. Could it be your connection?

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by loppantorkel:

The game isn't very stable and I've been booted from the occasional race, but it's still rare. Could it be your connection?

I don't know if it's my connection. My computer exceeds the recommended level of
technical sophistication that the game maker details on the storefront page. I have high speed internet. ...This is the first time I've tried Seasonal Events to get a particular car.

The Trial continues to drop me out. It did that several times today. However I did get as far into The Trial as one race completed before "it" disconnected me. That event gives 10 points, a high reward.

I eventually did get the so-called Hot Wheels car. I hear that this car is a single car made by one man with a Pontiac Firebird's outer body, modified, on it that Mattel made a toy replica of. It looks very sharp, this Forza H.'s artistic copy of his car, but MAN was it ever slow & tedious work doing offline things for 2 and 3 credits each!

I like off-line challenges against AI. But I'm not into:

1) Unbeatable avatars. It seems you have to beat them in the championship that require them, to get the seasonal points reward. You can't win three races in a row against highly skilled avatars in a B stock car you have to buy to enter that pointless reward yielding opportunity.

2) Four skill requirements you must make in a particular modern sports car of their choosing. Three are doable, one is not. Like ONE MILLION unbroken skill scores in it. No completion of 1 or 4, so no points.

3) And how good must your finishing position be to beat advanced AI? First, always?
If I placed well can I find and drive now to another Championship icon, or have I failed to place high enough in a race in the series *and that trip and another race over there would be pointless...* You're are not told. You are being led around by the ear.

4) Running all over Mexico in Championships, using fast travel CR., and losing track of where the next to last or last location is.

5) "Winning" another different kind of high points yield championship against everyone? or x-number of people. Huh? How many. I'll find out later where I placed in the field I guess.

6) a backstage car pass to get ONE CAR requires 50% of ALL a current seasonal events be completed. You will burn out and drop out at 20%. PG/Turn 10 knows this. The seasonal events are for the upper 10% skill players only. They know this; don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the other 90% of their customer base.

I won't do this again for a car. The devs want too much of your time. Jumping through hoops at this point is not fun. I like that they allow players to make new tracks for Seasonal Events. I like the newness of those. I've played the game as long as I ought to [keep] playing it. 700 hours.

[the bat kite]

See, here is what I am talking about:

There are just two classic muscle cars from Dodge in the Auto Store. Two.

Hey, a third one is currently up for 160 pts. (ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY humpin' points) in Seasonal Events. That's the 1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee, which until September of 2015 could be bought in Forza Horizon 4. It was also included in an original DLC muscle car pack (8 cars) in the Forza H. 4 game.

This Dodge car THAT THEY MADE VERY COSTLY JUST ONE GAME LATER is a 200 thou. credits Auto Store car brought here to game 5.

I'd like to have that car and the muscle car that is the 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT. It costs what the Hot Wheels Pontiac Firebird does.

This is the devs just pulling people's ♥♥♥♥♥ by this LATE or ALL DONE point in time in FH5's development.

So this payout information puts that cost into perspective. The highest amount of points you can get in Seasonal Events work right now is completing the eight chapters of the ICONS OF SPEED Summer Party adventuring. You'll get 12 points. Otherwise all other listed events yield a whopping 2 - 6 points each.

[SoanoS]

Wait, so are you saying you don't have enough accolade points to enter the trial yourself?

Correct me if I am wrong but I think what you are saying is that you want someone to invite you to the convoy to enter.

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by SoanoS:

Wait, so are you saying you don't have enough accolade points to enter the trial yourself?

Correct me if I am wrong but I think what you are saying is that you want someone to invite you to the convoy to enter.

No, I'm not saying I cannot enter The Trial for that reason. I have a ton of accolades. I have played the game for 700+ hours.

The Trial is entered, a series of races, in multiplayer against as many as five real players and five unbeatable avatars. No pre-event accomplishment or invitation is required AFAIK. It seems to be a come one, come all, thing.

I cannot be included nearly every time that I try to enter it. I am either timed-out in the 2 plus minute wait to join a session, or when the game design does allow itself one minute (another countdown) to collect other real players.

Or if I do make the race series: I'm actively entered online with AI and real players to do The Trial I am disconnected somewhere along the way. Yesterday (day before?) I got in and was dropped right after the first race ended. The game loaned me a Ford Hoonigan Cossie. Other players were in other different make/model B-level cars. I guess they were loaned those B-level cars.

Now I get it that the system is not overloaded with people trying to log-in to The Trial. The three times I raced in it - The Trial - it was only two to four real players I was racing there. Never five.

[the bat kite]

The Trial in Forza Horizon 4 is working flawlessly.

[loppantorkel]

Done this week's Trial twice now. Works perfectly fine here. FH5 isn't the most stable game I've played so it's not that I don't believe you, but maybe it's something on your end?
I did have to wait 2 minutes to enter the last Trial, but that seems very reasonable.

[the bat kite]

I don't know. I have a PC that exceeds the game 5's recommended technological sophistication, so to speak. Everything is in order. I am playing other large file size complex games currently. I do have high speed internet, and it isn't cutting out.

So why the FH5 online disconnections?

It had not worked two days in a row here in game 5. I thought the servers were overtaxed.
But I play "above average" AI in singleplayer, always. I didn't know much about other people's experiences in seasonal events online.

That was the first time I had ever tried The Trial. I needed (wanted) the 10 points it offered. But I think you have to beat the game in three races - all three - and that is not easy. Such challenges that'd give you half the points to get the HW Pontiac Firebird are only practically in reach for the top 10% of customers of PG/Turn10/MS's.

There are only two affordable reward cars, currently. The rest are WAY overpriced.

The Trial is working right away "over" there in game 4, so who knows.

It's a different game.

But it's ok. I see what they are doing now, clearly, for the first time. 40-80 points cars? A 160 points car?! They take us for fools.

This was my first attempt at the seasonal events winning of any special car. It was not fun. Not worth the work. It was a tedious carrot on a stick major bummer. Once you get involved enough with point accumulations earned you feel you must go on, like it or not.

And so I'm not going to grind in median reward 4 points in singleplayer or in the more involved and more profitable, potentially, online seasonal events anymore.

[loppantorkel]

Originally posted by cajindian:

But it's ok. I see what they are doing now, clearly, for the first time. 40-80 points cars? A 160 points car?! They take us for fools.

This was my first attempt at the seasonal events winning of any special car. It was not fun. Not worth the work. It was a tedious carrot on a stick major bummer. Once you get involved enough with point accumulations earned you feel you must go on, like it or not.

And so I'm not going to grind in median reward 4 points in singleplayer or in the more involved and more profitable, potentially, online seasonal events anymore.

It's easy to get pulled in by different rewards. The devs/publishers do them to provide content, increase interactivity and hopefully enjoyment in the game. If you're not having fun doing it and you're smart enough to recognise it - it's best to do something else and ignore the rewards. It's just a game, meant to entertain.

[the bat kite]

Icons of Speed. I enjoyed that. You could complete the eight chapters, scoring 1 or 2 stars on some of them (not perfect like you had to be in Alexandra's Vocho Challenge) and get the Hennessey Camaro Exorcist car. Cool beans! Fair deal by the devs.

Speaking of Alexandra, doesn't every guy playing this game really dig that tightly wrapped Mexican hot tamale!? But how am I supposed to get to just, say, second base with her when the devs turned me into a 14 year old boy in a man's body? I am made to sound like an ignorant ABOUT RACING noob. A stumbling over my words hopelessly uncool ninth grader all around.

Seriously, the voice actress Fernanda Moya does her parts well. And she was too kind to let a dweeb like P.G. made me into get to hang out with her for so long.

And the prize car is cool and fast, like Alexandra the smart sultry temptress and Mexico's best 'mechanical' is.