RWD Rally Fighter A Class HELP

[Lt_Hawk 420]

Really Having trouble tuning this thing, NOW i do understand AWD is most likely the way to go but if there is any one out there than can give me some pointers that would be much appreciated!!

[Patroh]

For what kind of purpose is the car being build?
If for cross country, then scrap the idea. AWD is the only way regardless of class and car type.
If for rally, A class is a rough cut at which you really want to AWD swap your car. B class and below are usually tolerable for rallying in RWD however. Hope you're using Offroad tires.

Anyway you can try improving handling by having your accel diff set at about 20%-40% with perhaps 5-20% decel diff if throttle lift-off oversteer is present.

Assuming your ARBs, spring rate and damping is properly set for rallying (read, not as stiff as for road conditions) but car still feels slippery or difficult to control, then go for rear wing. If the car understeers at higher speeds, add front aero. If the car has no such option, the AWD swap is going to be the one and only solution.

[kireta]

Remember that FH5 top of A class is more or less equivalent of mid-S1 class in previous games in term of speed and power. Stretching PI killed many classic RWD builds.

[Ulanthorn]

If you wan't to keep it RWD use lots (0.5°) toe in at the rear, toe out at the front. Don't close the diff too much, never over 60%. Keep suspension soft and ARB in the rear at 12N/mm max. It helps for hevay terrain if the frotgn rides higher ands softer then the rear, particularly you need soft Dampers with a double as high rebound stiffness. A stable chassis that is easy to recover from oversteer can be used to use power oversteer for better cornering on dirt and gravel. Caveat, does not work well on tarmac.

[Lt_Hawk 420]

I appreciate your Comments on the topic, the Rally Fighter like i said is obviously Better off AWD just like any car would BUT there has to be a catch to FH5 that allows RWD builds to NAV through off-road terrain whether your easing your way through a corner or hammering down on it at hopes to get around it.

I have my Rear toe in to about 1.7-2.3 and it really helps in a straight line under heavy accel, but even if your not on the throttle you still should ( atleast in my opinion) handle through the corners decent enough to make it through

[Lt_Hawk 420]

Text can be either misunderstood or not explained very well so if you need better insight on exactly what i have going on, shoot me a call or add me as a friend so i can better understand why making this RWD is just not going to happen and I should just give up now

[Patroh]

Originally posted by Lt_Hawk 420:

so i can better understand why making this RWD is just not going to happen and I should just give up now

If the car is meant to be built for serious racing, the RWD configuration for offroading in A-class won't cut it as you won't be able to transfer that much power without spinning your wheels or cutting power to prevent said wheelspin, making the car slow in the process.

[Lagarto]

Doesn't have rear tyres big enough to get the power down in RWD. However, you can try alternatives that has thick rear tyre upgrades like the Dodge Charger R/T or the Ford De Luxe Coupe.

[Ulanthorn]

the accelerator allows for gradual appliance of power. There is no need for flooring it all the time. A longer gearing for the lower gears also helps a lot. Smoking tyres are always a sign of a bad launch. In general, FH5 often uses a quite generic base setup. In some cases it is worth to google for the real OEM Data for gearing and springs of the model. It works wonders on the Porsches, for example.

[Lt_Hawk 420]

Originally posted by Ulanthorn:

the accelerator allows for gradual appliance of power. There is no need for flooring it all the time. A longer gearing for the lower gears also helps a lot. Smoking tyres are always a sign of a bad launch. In general, FH5 often uses a quite generic base setup. In some cases it is worth to google for the real OEM Data for gearing and springs of the model. It works wonders on the Porsches, for example.

I was using it as an example as you would be able to in AWD, im used to playing the motorsport games versus horizon, so i do have track racing aspect when it comes to using throttle control, but seriously though is the RWD truly that bad on offroad? i mean... most buggies and trophy trucks are RWD so why cant this rally fighter?

[Lt_Hawk 420]

Originally posted by Patroh:

Originally posted by Lt_Hawk 420:

so i can better understand why making this RWD is just not going to happen and I should just give up now

If the car is meant to be built for serious racing, the RWD configuration for offroading in A-class won't cut it as you won't be able to transfer that much power without spinning your wheels or cutting power to prevent said wheelspin, making the car slow in the process.

SO there has to be a compromise then?

[Patroh]

If you're aiming to build this car for serious racing like Horizon Open, vs Unbeatable AI or Rivals, then AWD swap is going to be a mandatory step if you wish to keep up.

[Lt_Hawk 420]

I did it!! I found a way to make a RWD Rally fighter competetive In a Open A Class Rally

[Patroh]

Nice going!

[Lt_Hawk 420]

Originally posted by Patroh:

Nice going!

I am going to give you my share tune, because i want you to realize that you told me it could not be competetive in An A class Rally RWD, im not saying it is the best car. It certainly does prove a point though that it being RWD is certainly competetive and it can if not be better than the AWD variant