Let me get this straight

[popsicle]

So when a money exploit glitch went out, they shutdown the entire auction house and took people's money away. Claimed it was hurting the economy.

Yet the leaderboard is filled with hackers online and offline completing races in 0 seconds. I am driving a max upgraded lambo getting crushed by honda civic drivers that beat me by 40 seconds online. Yet they do nothing to protect my experience in the actual gameplay.

What a load of BS.

[the bat kite]

Yes, go after all the people cheating like crazy -thieving credits away without limit in this case - going apecrap with any major destructive to millions of paying working customers gamers' fun. Computer hacks that were NOT known in time by PG/Turn 10 to necessitate THIS with the AH; the guilty users of THIS one in particular should have their accounts reduced to 0 cr.

When you can buy virtually all of the game's very most expensive cars, develop them all with the game's best possible tuning, bring-down the AH for a long time, [and] then take these ripped-off cars to the track to skunk *those people making credits the HONEST way,* you should be banned for a few weeks too. Screw 'em.

Edit to ADD: PG/Turn 10/Microsoft ought do alot more punitive game halting things to all individuals known to be cheating other players who do F.H.5 the right way - the way that the developers clearly intended [it] be done.

[popsicle]

This is not about money. Is about Forza overlooking online competitive cheaters.

[the bat kite]

Publicado originalmente por popsicle:

This is not about money. Is about Forza overlooking online competitive cheaters.

Credits are just like money in this game, are they not?

I don't know what is going on with competitive online cheating. I play singleplayer to avoid real people. I have participated in less than 20 online races since the day the game launched. ...That many times in Rivals until I saw the people habitually bringing track toys to dirt and cross-country races to skunk my fully developed off-roaders, like buggies, pick-up trucks and giant SUVs.

And I have tried another 10 or so custom made, by fellow users, [in] their track race events. I know that of the 20-something million people who bought this game, there are bound to be the buttholes who think dishonestly winning is more fun that doing things right and perhaps losing fairly. They disobey their conscience in how to treat others in this competitive game.

You do have to really grind to get 10s of millions of credits. I have a few hundred hours invested in buying numerous cars, all across the board, in this game. You don't have to get a lot of the cars to have fun, but if collecting really appeals to you, the game makers have required you race alot, skillfully, to buy them. That's how the game car collection progression is designed/structured.

This computer hack, MADE by hackers and subsequently let loose out of reddit or 4chan, perhaps, gave dishonest lazy people a huge gross advantage. It has caused millions of players to lose all access to selling cars. It stops buyers too that cannot afford some (many, actually) of the super-high sticker priced vehicles in the Autoshow market.

[LordOfTheBread]

I don't know what the leafereboard has to do with economy. Well, in fact I know: these are not related at all.

They did sday they will clean the leadferboards tho, I will believe it when I see it.

[iaf.nga]

They got a economy?

[Harpic1950]

Agreed many, many cheaters same as Gran Turismo which is why I only do live online racing when bored with the rest, hopefully maybe Motorsport 8 will have better track management but I doubt it

[Harpic1950]

And yes there is an economy because there is game money

[jojo]

Really couldn't care much about the game economy as money is pretty pointless once you pass the 50 million CR mark.

Why the leaderboards are still filled with impossible times a year after release boggles the mind. I know PG is looking at this (or so they say), but surely it can't be that hard to clean - and also perma ban these accounts.

[w_wooden]

The problem is that they are using the game's economy to make real money. For example you want a Ferrari Stradale but don't have 20 million credits and don't want to grind for a month, but you do have $5.00 cash/credit etc. You send them real money, and they tell you the second that they are about to list your car for the lowest price possible. You hit refresh a few times while they list the car, then buy it for 147k rather than 20 million. (if someone like me gets it first, no big deal, they have unlimited cars so they just do it till you get yours.
These hackers have billions of dollars in game credits, but want real $.
They screw up the entire game for everyone unfortunately. (if you want to snipe some of these cars off them, next time you're in the auction house and notice a car that is supposed to go for millions going for thousands, just keep hitting refresh till they drop another one, and be quicker than the guy who paid real $ for it. (i've gotten 5 or 6 20 million dollar cars in a couple of minutes this way. If they are doing 1 customer, chances are they will do several of them a few minutes apart. LOL

[popsicle]

Publicado originalmente por w_wooden:

The problem is that they are using the game's economy to make real money. For example you want a Ferrari Stradale but don't have 20 million credits and don't want to grind for a month, but you do have $5.00 cash/credit etc. You send them real money, and they tell you the second that they are about to list your car for the lowest price possible. You hit refresh a few times while they list the car, then buy it for 147k rather than 20 million. (if someone like me gets it first, no big deal, they have unlimited cars so they just do it till you get yours.
These hackers have billions of dollars in game credits, but want real $.

Obviously someone from Forza team is benefiting underground from players spending real money for game Cr, which is why they have to protect their business.

Meanwhile race results are all screwed up with in-game race cheaters and they are all ok with it.

[kireta]

Publicado originalmente por w_wooden:

For example you want a Ferrari Stradale but don't have 20 million credits and don't want to grind for a month

Stradale is not a car, it simply means street legal version of a racing car.
Just a nitpick.

[Ain't Goat Time For Dat]

Publicado originalmente por popsicle:

This is not about money. Is about Forza overlooking online competitive cheaters.

If only the world invented some type of function to help report a player for cheating or harassment....it's like we gotta reinvent the wheel again =)

[Brother Skolas]

Publicado originalmente por jojo:

Really couldn't care much about the game economy as money is pretty pointless once you pass the 50 million CR mark.

or you got all the cars ingame

[the bat kite]

Publicado originalmente por Phoenix0891:

And this is what turned me off from this game. Apparently PGG has never heard or refuses to put an anti cheat system in the game to stop hackers from getting away with exploits and cheating on leaderboards.

No anti-cheat software among their gillion game files, huh. And that is apparent to you, how? Because a hacker and his copy-catting happy to be emptying the game's bank safe as fast as can be done asswipes shut-down the AH for nearly every last one of us for 12 days? Has something like this happened before in the last year?

No.

Nobody happened upon a commonplace glitch to exploit, was feeling cash poor, and so they just played along with that. This was a malevolent hacker's doing [that] they followed into his still-smoking blown-open central bank safe to empty it themselves of all that was there. A hacker didn't blow by anti-cheat filers you say don't even exist.

What does exist? State of the art anti-cheat software and also very lazy and very greedy fellow players who put conscience aside and go pouring through a hole blown in the game wall by a hacker.

[kireta]

Publicado originalmente por cajindian:

<the usual>

Please go take your meds for today, you clearly need them.