cheat AI?

[techstepman]

So how do you deal with the cheat AI?

[TheHuskyGT]

You cheat yourself. Ram them, block them, etc.

[kireta]

Outplay them. AI has super grip and extra power, but they can't drive for sh*t. You, on the other hand, can use weight shifting, late braking, use lift-off or trail brake. Knowledge of track also allows you to approach corners in more optimal way than suggested by driveline.

Highly Skilled AI is perfectly beatable with even stock cars, well tuned car will beat Pro driveatars. Against Unbeatable, well, you'll need either meta tune, or to play dirty.

[Harpic1950]

Yes just like GT7 you have to cheat to beat a cheat same with the ramming

[techstepman]

so you gotta know how to drive like a race driver in an arcade game with cheat rivals who can pass you on a straight road with the same car you have...they get +100 horse power cheat. RAmming blocking is not a cheat....the only thing you can do is rewind and rewind....for hours...This is how a game dies.

[reverb]

You blackmail them before the race starts.

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by techstepman:

so you gotta know how to drive like a race driver in an arcade game with cheat rivals who can pass you on a straight road with the same car you have...they get +100 horse power cheat. RAmming blocking is not a cheat....the only thing you can do is rewind and rewind....for hours...This is how a game dies.

I think you should state the difficulty you play on.

[kireta]

Originally posted by techstepman:

so you gotta know how to drive like a race driver in an arcade game with cheat rivals who can pass you on a straight road with the same car you have.

It's not that complicated, racing in Forza Horizon is nowhere as hard as in actual racing sim. It's just not as simple as pressing W, following track, and letting your superior stats win for you.
Good start at gitting gud is to disable driving assists other than ABS, and racing to get feel of how far you can push car, before it refuses to stay under control. And general basics of racing, like when and how much you need to brake, or when you're adding too much gas. Cars generally follow real-world physics, so they are consistent and easy to predict.

Also, you may want to lower AI difficulty until you get better hang of the things

[Berengas Nº1]

Drag tires+awd and once u reach first position its easy to block them u do not even need a good cornering car

[techstepman]

right now im at average and all assists are off but i had to go through the season stuff....there the difficulty is higher.

[kireta]

Originally posted by techstepman:

right now im at average and all assists are off but i had to go through the season stuff....there the difficulty is higher.

If you have someone to play with, you can enter races together as a convoy, which flips it into team players vs team AI, making whole thing much easier

[the bat kite]

"How to deal with the cheat AI?" Hmm.

Well, I'd go for a thinning out of the worst of them, with their so perfect racing line and so perfect adhesion to the track. These are the ones that run faultless races never losing a corner and hitting a wall. These are all of them.

You can't crash them into nonexistence; you have to badly mess with the A.I.s' AE (artificial emotions).

Here's a way they'd never see coming and cannot understand, no matter how smart the devs might make them, because it is absolutely senseless and unnatural.

Race them in Rivals mode on the Horizon Festival Baja headquarters' namesake sand dune track, up in the far northwest part of the map. You select your fastest eligible track toy supercar to race the AI in S1 class off-roaders. Authentic dirt track type vehicles only! Hilarious.


You smoke them, naturally, doing 200 mph despite the slicks and street scene suspension you've got. Repeat 20 times a day until these that you challenge begin, over a few weeks time, to start to lose the will to live. Hopefully half of those will eventually fade away into nothingness (artificially).

It will take a few years to run the most perfect AI off and out of the game files. Race them one-by-one-by-one in Rivals on every wide open (very few or no rocks trees or cactus trackside) sand duney course in Mexico in this exact same way; your unbeatable in speed supercar against them confined to the game's S1 off-roaders.

[the bat kite]

The game makers allow for people have might have nothing in their garage except extreme supercars to take those to Baja dirt or sand! tracks and untamed cliff-dropping cross-country courses in ...vs. Rivals mode in multiplayer competition.

Sure, you can change rivals in those when supercars are being used by knuckleheads to beat your giant SUV on off-road or rally tires, or a actual rally-only car, or a dirt 'buggy,' but should you have to? Street scene suspensions and drag tires on supercars would not work on dirt and sand tracks, or in the country where there is no track, just point yourself in the right direction open land.

The supercar driver is engaging in a kind of cheating, IMO. Vehicles the game itself classifies as off-roader or cross-country types belong on those tracks to use [if] to fairly race other players who are using cars that'd actually be able to succeed there.

In Forza Horizon 4 the game automatically limits cross-country races to a SUV hero owner. You can't go to your supercars. If you don't have the type the game shows you to have for the punishing cross-country race, well, you just have to go buy one. Off to the store you go. And you will have to have 100,000 credits to make it work well.

I've noticed today that in singleplayer, which I greatly prefer to racing real live people, if you are using a car on a dirt track that the game prefers to be raced on concrete, like the VW Beetle '63 Vocho edition that I used, you will see inappropriate cars in the AI competition. That is a bummer.

I made that Bug a dirt racer by using the right parts, which do slow that car down and make it handle worse. [Because] not using Vocho edition slicks and the supplied dragster suspension, or whatever, lower your handling number but! raise your off-road number.

The cars that are legitimately multipurpose, like that "bug" one is (potentially) can be used with and against real human others in baja and cross-country and be fair enough. They have as much fun in rivals multiplayer.