Why would you ever use RWD?

[Sparky]

I've played all of Forza 4 and I'm pretty far into 5 and I just can't figure out why you'd ever use RWD. I'm probably just dumb but with RWD you have to worry about the back kicking out on every turn, but with AWD you can power through anything.

[TyresTyco]

Once you tried that one jaguar barn find with a good RWD tune you will realize that it's harder to launch but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is it a beauty to drive and is fast as ♥♥♥♥ in s1 races. Once you control it... you are unbeatable against casual players.

[acewing]

If the game had a 3,2,1 countdown at the start where I could get a decent launch, I'd consider RWD. But as it is, I have to hold down the trigger and pray, so every bit counts.

[TyresTyco]

acewing lähetti viestin:

If the game had a 3,2,1 countdown at the start where I could get a decent launch, I'd consider RWD. But as it is, I have to hold down the trigger and pray, so every bit counts.

I dunno what a countdown would actual change? Might elaborate on that? Poor launch speed isn't that bad when you can just zip through everyone once you build up momentum/speed.

I've seen a lot of guys just deleting me out of my existance driving max speed. But once they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up a corner.. it's pretty much done tho.

[CasualitieZ]

If you can control launch and learn throttle control then RWD is just simply the best. Best cornering by far.

[ManyCracker]

+Sparky- lähetti viestin:

I pretty much only use muscle cars. But I like them a lot more with AWD. Lets me full-rev while sideways around a corner which is like, my favourite thing.

You can do that with RWD as well, it's called drifting. What you are describing as drifting AWD is power sliding, technically.

When you slide around AWD the car only really requires very minimal steering input, as the power going to the front wheels makes it want to go straight. Hence why you can just do a flick (transferring weight to the other side of the car via turning the opposite direction before a turn) and then just stomp the gas to make it slide around an entire corner without any steering input.

Drifting with RWD requires precise throttle control, feathering the steering wheel to maintain angle, and a bit of practice so you don't just spin out every time. It's WAY more fun then just power-sliding an AWD car around. Lower horsepower RWD requires more throttle control whereas I find anything over 500HP can usually get the job done full throttle through-out the corner, only changing up and down gears depending on the length of the corner.

Anyway, you should learn RWD, it's easily the most fun. Formula Drift cars are a good spot to start as they have high horsepower and slide like nothing else. Just gotta learn
1. Throttle Control
2. Counter-steering\feathering the wheel
3. The right gear\s to be in. (High HP Cars generally just go for 3rd and 4th but it obviously varies)

Also you want to be using Manual, don't need Clutch when you are learning, but after you have the 3 basics down I recommend Manual+Clutch so you can do Clutch kicks.


RWD Corners better yet has a much harder launch, especially at high horsepower. Having the best launch just doesn't matter though, honestly. Online it's the corners where having a RWD car will just dominate. AWD has sooo much under steer in comparison.

Basically any road race I'd use RWD. For mixed surface, either RWD or AWD. And dirt/off-road AWD.

[Princess Pilfer]

RWD builds tend to be faster and corner better than AWD ones, and if they're tuned correctly they *can be* (they aren't always) fairly stable with even pretty basic throttel control (ie don't gun it out of low speed corners or right after hitting the breaks while going downhill.)

with the changes in FH5, RWD cars are still *more likely* to be useful in Rivals than in online (RWD cars are, as a rule, more prone to being totally screwed over by ramming or by not being able to take their ideal line, so online tends to favor cars that are very stable) but the right car and tune can be stable enough to be competitively useful while also still being fast as a RWD.

TL:DR, you'd use them because you're doing rivals where their instability isn't a factor if you have good enough throttle control but their high power and great turn in gets you fast times.
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You'd use them because they've been tuned in such a way that they're stable enough for you to control online while still being faster than an AWD version of the car would be.

[crabseed]

RWD, or AWD with rear bias are just so much more fun to drive, especially going down the volcano. If you want to win, just go AWD with RWD bias through the differential. The AI RWD cars don't seem to suffer from any wheel spin. Also RWD generally has better turn in and higher top speed. I drive a 350hp WRX STI irl and I love RWD's.

[1MantisPhoenix]

Bogo lähetti viestin:

AWD adds mass and lowers your horsepower at the wheel but gives a lot of traction, if you min-maxing centrain categories AWD may not be optimal. Its must have for S2 though.

Upgrading tires instead AWD is most of time better choice.

More tires spinning around a corner = better drift,
Mass times acceleration = the greater the mass, the greater the force you output, so there's advantages to both :)
RWD SUCKS ON DIRT :./Cross-country

[Green1]

/1MantisPhoenix/∞ lähetti viestin:

Bogo lähetti viestin:

AWD adds mass and lowers your horsepower at the wheel but gives a lot of traction, if you min-maxing centrain categories AWD may not be optimal. Its must have for S2 though.

Upgrading tires instead AWD is most of time better choice.

More tires spinning around a corner = better drift,
Mass times acceleration = the greater the mass, the greater the force you output, so there's advantages to both :)
RWD SUCKS ON DIRT :./Cross-country

When Audi brought Awd to rally it was shock and awe.

[acewing]

TyresTyco lähetti viestin:

acewing lähetti viestin:

If the game had a 3,2,1 countdown at the start where I could get a decent launch, I'd consider RWD. But as it is, I have to hold down the trigger and pray, so every bit counts.

I dunno what a countdown would actual change? Might elaborate on that? Poor launch speed isn't that bad when you can just zip through everyone once you build up momentum/speed.

I've seen a lot of guys just deleting me out of my existance driving max speed. But once they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up a corner.. it's pretty much done tho.

Having a countdown lets you properly control the throttle instead of going in gung ho and hoping for the best.
Also AI very rarely ♥♥♥♥♥ up corners, if ever. Might be a good tip for MP though.

[CunkFeatures]

Green1 lähetti viestin:

/1MantisPhoenix/∞ lähetti viestin:

More tires spinning around a corner = better drift,
Mass times acceleration = the greater the mass, the greater the force you output, so there's advantages to both :)
RWD SUCKS ON DIRT :./Cross-country

When Audi brought Awd to rally it was shock and awe.

The RWD Lancia 037 still gave it a good kick in before it took the crown for good.

[n3mes1s]

N0xEterniS lähetti viestin:

Why would you use RWD? Street Sprints in B class or A or S1, even S2, The Goliath - Mosler, Speed traps since RWD cars have a lot more speed, drifting..

Again. RWD cars are faster, but have less acceleration. You need to chose the type of car you need. On short circutis with many corners, or in drag strips, you will probably need AWD. In sprints, and specially long races you are more interested in RWD so you can gain terrain and speed faster. It depens. Its not as easy as "why would anyone chose RWD or AWD".

[Little Black Sambo]

CunkFeatures lähetti viestin:

+Sparky- lähetti viestin:

I'm probably just dumb but with RWD you have to worry about the back kicking out on every turn, but with AWD you can power through anything.

But with AWD you have the shame of being a tool. I mean that guy doing doughnuts in a blatant AWD car, you're a tool. That guy drifting really well but with 4 clouds, also a tool.

When you see two clouds of tire smoke from a drifter, you nod your head in respect for said skill.
Maybe its just me but do appreciate a good driver, and laugh at those with their EZ mode cars.

Also competitively its only really launch that you miss out on, but corners, you have the upper hand since the car can be forced to turn more, AWD you're at the whim of what the tires are upto, no doubt trying to steer while dealing with 40% of 1000HP spinning them around loosing said grip.

So pride, skill, corners weight and top speed.

EDIT: and when it snows in 4, you can throw endless snow onto other cars rather just spinning on the spot lol

EDIT EDIT: Quite important note. When you so swap the drive chain you are getting a single generic drive train used on all cars drive chain swaps, not sure what its based on. So all cars feel the same. That to me, as a car lover is not good enough.
I want each car to have a feel, even if its made up just as long as they have thought about it. AWD swaps all feel the same. Kudos for being like RL drive swaps.

Ken Block uses AWD in some of his drift cars

[TheSmilingDoom]

And then came the rain, and washed all the arguments for RWD down the drain....

[n3mes1s]

TheSmilingDoom lähetti viestin:

And then came the rain, and washed all the arguments for RWD down the drain....

Rain affects AWD and RWD cars almost equally... lol. It is just the game, changed A LOT in the way rain and other weather things affects car behaviour. But it really doesnt matter if they are RWD or AWD they slide the same.

Now, cars slide like hell, you pick a 4x4 on a dirt track at 50kmp and the frikkin car cant stay on road without sliding... pathetic lol. I guess they decided that realism was too much in this franchise...