Dead?

[Warelieus]

Just wondering. Been a while since I played.

[Sunsetter]

I think it has about 600 on average per day, I can usually find people to play with very quickly in QP during the day. It takes a bit more time highest difficulties cause fewer people play those.
And since you only need 2 players for a match, I wouldnt call it dead, only in the sense that there are no more dlc or major content patches being planned.

[DrunkBunny94]

No dead is when there aren't enough players for it to function or function efficiently.

It's mostly a problem for PVP games as you need players to fill 2 teams to then fight each other.

But this is a PvAI game, where you only meed 3 people for a match and crossplaynumbers don't show on steams concurrent so games are pretty easy to get into.

Also unless your a friendless loser most PvAI games are always playable because you just hit up the gang and hop on. Plenty of "dead games" I can easily recommended because they're a good time but some of them when the 4 of us hop on we double the player count.

[Warelieus]

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

No dead is when there aren't enough players for it to function or function efficiently.

It's mostly a problem for PVP games as you need players to fill 2 teams to then fight each other.

But this is a PvAI game, where you only meed 3 people for a match and crossplaynumbers don't show on steams concurrent so games are pretty easy to get into.

Also unless your a friendless loser most PvAI games are always playable because you just hit up the gang and hop on. Plenty of "dead games" I can easily recommended because they're a good time but some of them when the 4 of us hop on we double the player count.

Ohh ♥♥♥♥, is that how games work? Had no idea! But maybe everyone can't play at the same time? But hey, act like an idiot. :)

[frosty*]

certain times depending on your time zones there is plenty of activity for many full games to be played,so basically this game isnt dead,when u find games then its still active regardless of the player count,it takes only 3 ppl to have a full game,friends that have it too so really its still alive in my book,even some multiplayer games from 12-13 years old are still active,so i wouldnt right this title of just yet,a game these days does have to be player base driven over the k's to be played online.

[Xero]

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

And dead is not 0 players, dead is under 1000 players when talking about games.

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

No dead is when there aren't enough players for it to function or function efficiently.

It's like the original starsiege tribes. It was later funded by the people, which is why servers aren't the way to go. Technically, if a game is dead, it has no pulse. Nothing keeps it alive. Two players can keep that pulse going. If there are zero players, the game is dead. People just chose to use this terminology out of hatefulness. Like the jester / clown face award being a negative thing which it's not. It gives players points. It's an award.

So, when people use this terminology when they clearly see the game is alive, they call it a dead game in which they are labeled a troll. To try to get a reaction out of people. If there is an absolutely zero player average, then I would say it's dead. But it's not. Hell Asteroids for Atari isn't considered dead because there's a fan base of more than one person who plays it.

The original terminology for a dead game started off as hateful speech towards the community and developers. Later accepted as it being a player base average to successfully function correctly. But those people are ignorant to the fact and if you know the true meaning and still use it, you're hating on whatever game in which you question is dead.

[Narrowmind]

I think we all knew the OP wasn't asking if there were a total of zero people playing the game. Why are you all pretending? There's no reason to be intellectually dishonest. Virtually every single game in existence is alive by that standard.

The be honest with you OP, there is actually quite a lot of evidence to suggest that the game is dead, including the updates that blocks people away from being able to enjoy the experience. It's not an isolated incident that people aren't able to connect with each other. That can make the game functionally dead for many players. Obviously, the diehards remain around, but there are very few players and there are serious reasons for that.

The best thing a new player can do is buy it 75 percent off and make sure the p2p is working for them at the time (I know you already have it.) If you're asking this question despite your previous experience, then yeah, it's dead.

[Gameo]

Far from dead, full queues all day everyday

[DrunkBunny94]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Bro the games at its highest player count on steam in 6 months and that isn't including crossplay numbers.

The games more than alive - and even if it wasn't the bots just got an insane buff making it easier to play with them than most randoms online.
(although with Xmas so close 100% wait for the sale and get the pathogen edition for like 66% off)

But its just weird that people go around asking if coop-PvAI games are dead or alive when you need so few people to get a game going.
When I got AFE i didn't play public games until i was already past prestige 80+ because the whole time before that i was playing with KF2, GTFO and B4B friends.
There's games out there like Space Beast Terror Fright or Unloved where you can hop on with 2-3 friends and be half the concurrent players and have a great time.

This isnt Squad where for 100 active instances to join you need 10,000 players.
This is a 3p coop where for the same 100 instances you need 300 players.

[black Harlekin]

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Wow, what a toxic prick.

Did you took a look in the mirror?

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Ohh ♥♥♥♥, is that how games work? Had no idea! But maybe everyone can't play at the same time? But hey, act like an idiot. :)

As you said

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Takes one to know one, right?

[Narrowmind]

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

Bro the games at its highest player count on steam in 6 months and that isn't including crossplay numbers.

The games more than alive - and even if it wasn't the bots just got an insane buff making it easier to play with them than most randoms online.
(although with Xmas so close 100% wait for the sale and get the pathogen edition for like 66% off)

But its just weird that people go around asking if coop-PvAI games are dead or alive when you need so few people to get a game going.
When I got AFE i didn't play public games until i was already past prestige 80+ because the whole time before that i was playing with KF2, GTFO and B4B friends.
There's games out there like Space Beast Terror Fright or Unloved where you can hop on with 2-3 friends and be half the concurrent players and have a great time.

This isnt Squad where for 100 active instances to join you need 10,000 players.
This is a 3p coop where for the same 100 instances you need 300 players.

I do understand what you're saying, but to prove which of us is more right, all we have to do is look at the support. Are the devs releasing more paid DLC? Because if the game were truly alive, and the player base was actually plugged in and consistent, you better believe they'd be trying to get more money from us. The fact that they are not tells us more than we needed to know. The number of players interested in more content show that any further investment for them in this product a waste of time with a foregone conclusion.

The fact that we're getting any more small QOL patches is more than we could ask for, but as long as it's taking, even when they break something like Guard Dog, shows they're not in any hurry.

There's a reason why.

[Marty]

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Just wondering. Been a while since I played.

Yes it is mostly dead.
The matchmaking is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and they won't fix it, good luck with the lag fest that is Crossplay

[Gameo]

Originally posted by Marty:

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Just wondering. Been a while since I played.

Yes it is mostly dead.
The matchmaking is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and they won't fix it, good luck with the lag fest that is Crossplay

99.999% of my games play just fine and the majority are crossplay.
Most I wait is 10 seconds for a full game, many are within a few seconds.
It's a you problem

[Narrowmind]

No, it's really not. A lot of us have the same issue. It's a common issue.

[Chris]

Originally posted by Marty:

Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

Just wondering. Been a while since I played.

Yes it is mostly dead.
The matchmaking is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and they won't fix it, good luck with the lag fest that is Crossplay

So is crossplay the reason my game freezes for a few seconds every time one of my teammates enters a new room?

[Narrowmind]

I don't think it's crossplay, but just online play in general, when loading a new area when you're not the host.