You can't kill a xenomorph with a flamethrower

[HEXEN]

Xenomorphs in the Alien series are supposed to be impervious to extreme temperatures. The AvP series has it otherwise but it isn't canon in the Alien series. It's weird seeing xenomorphs being calcinated via flamethrower in the screenshots.

Edit : It appears a lot of people coming in the thread get the sense that I'm campaigning against this game which is not the case at all. It's only a game after all and having the flamethrower kill adult xenomorphs is an alright gameplay mechanic, although not a very lore friendly one in my opinion. I fully intend to buy this game on release. The intent of this thread is to have a discussion/debate on the subject.

[Blackguard]

Publicado originalmente por ♡ Katalina Aryze ♡:

Publicado originalmente por Blackguard:

The USNC's flamethrower units specifically have the ability to kill Xenomorphs because they shoot a form of enhanced napalm. It should be noted that other flamers in the aliens series such as the one in the first move or isolation only shoot fire instead.

The Alien's body, as durable as it is to extreme temperatures, has very little to no immunity to corrosives, like the alien's own acidic blood or other various sticky burning substances, like napalm for example.

^None of this is true but a good attempt of fan fiction lol

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Mesoskeleton

Ain't my fault people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this series so badly.

Apparently I did slightly ♥♥♥♥ up tho, the xenomorph's skin is immune to its own acid but not necessarily from the genetic misfits the K-series and the rogue Red xenos. But that's slightly up in the air

[HEXEN]

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Publicado originalmente por ♡ Katalina Aryze ♡:

^None of this is true but a good attempt of fan fiction lol

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Mesoskeleton

Ain't my fault people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this series so badly.

Apparently I did slightly ♥♥♥♥ up tho, the xenomorph's skin is immune to its own acid but not necessarily from the genetic misfits the K-series and the rogue Red xenos. But that's slightly up in the air

It's not canon. You're linking the AvP wiki. And Aliens : Genocide isn't canon either.

[Blackguard]

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Publicado originalmente por Blackguard:

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Mesoskeleton

Ain't my fault people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this series so badly.

Apparently I did slightly ♥♥♥♥ up tho, the xenomorph's skin is immune to its own acid but not necessarily from the genetic misfits the K-series and the rogue Red xenos. But that's slightly up in the air

It's not canon. You're linking the AvP wiki. And Aliens : Genocide isn't canon either.

Its not canon according to who again? You? Unlike Star Wars there's never been ANY centralised canon with the series, and no canon has ever been hard-confirmed or hard-established. Its mostly what the communal majority believes is canon. Most believe that most of the Dark-Horse series is actual canon, but that's besides the point.

But let's say you're right, which you aren't, and it isn't canon. Aliens Out of the Shadows 'is' widely regarded as actual canon, and that's where the whole aliens aren't immune to other types of acid comes from.

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

[HEXEN]

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It's not canon. You're linking the AvP wiki. And Aliens : Genocide isn't canon either.

Its not canon according to who again? You? Unlike Star Wars there's never been ANY centralised canon with the series, and no canon has ever been hard-confirmed or hard-established. Its mostly what the communal majority believes is canon. Most believe that most of the Dark-Horse series is actual canon, but that's besides the point.

But let's say you're right, which you aren't, and it isn't canon. Aliens Out of the Shadows 'is' widely regarded as actual canon, and that's where the whole aliens aren't immune to other types of acid comes from.

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

This was written by a franchise consultant for the series.
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

[HEXEN]

Also what's the acid got to do with anything? We're talking about fire here. I don't think you saw my first reply to your post.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

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^None of this is true but a good attempt of fan fiction lol

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Mesoskeleton

Ain't my fault people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this series so badly.

Apparently I did slightly ♥♥♥♥ up tho, the xenomorph's skin is immune to its own acid but not necessarily from the genetic misfits the K-series and the rogue Red xenos. But that's slightly up in the air

That site is filled with a bunch of flase info so be careful who you trust. Sounds more to me like someone made up a bunch of stuff and tried to make things up im order to fill plot holes.

None of that is actually in the movies or comics.

Refer to one of my prior comments where I say that the only way would be to mix plasma with fire (I work with this combination for a living, so I know) but that would no longer be a flamethrower....


As far as the acid thing, no, Xenomorphs are not "more" vulnerable to acid because they bleed acid. That theory makes no sense since their blood is more acidic than anything created by man, even the Predator's counter-acid could not handle the acidity which tells us that Xenomorphs could handle any acid/counter acid thrown their way, and if encountered by a stronger acid, they'd likely shrug it off like nothing any way.

[Blackguard]

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Its not canon according to who again? You? Unlike Star Wars there's never been ANY centralised canon with the series, and no canon has ever been hard-confirmed or hard-established. Its mostly what the communal majority believes is canon. Most believe that most of the Dark-Horse series is actual canon, but that's besides the point.

But let's say you're right, which you aren't, and it isn't canon. Aliens Out of the Shadows 'is' widely regarded as actual canon, and that's where the whole aliens aren't immune to other types of acid comes from.

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

This was written by a franchise consultant for the series.
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

It literally says Out of the Shadows is canon.

Guess you can't read either, oh and let me just quote that same franchise consultant: "Remember that canon in any franchise is always fluid"

I'm done arguing with you. You're wrong. End of story.

[Blackguard]

Publicado originalmente por ♡ Katalina Aryze ♡:

Publicado originalmente por Blackguard:

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Mesoskeleton

Ain't my fault people ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this series so badly.

Apparently I did slightly ♥♥♥♥ up tho, the xenomorph's skin is immune to its own acid but not necessarily from the genetic misfits the K-series and the rogue Red xenos. But that's slightly up in the air

That site is filled with a bunch of flase info so be careful who you trust. Sounds more to me like someone made up a bunch of stuff and tried to make things up im order to fill plot holes.

None of that is actually in the movies or comics.

Refer to one of my prior comments where I say that the only way would be to mix plasma with fire (I work with this combination for a living, so I know) but that would no longer be a flamethrower....


As far as the acid thing, no, Xenomorphs are not "more" vulnerable to acid because they bleed acid. That theory makes no sense since their blood is more acidic than anything created by man, even the Predator's counter-acid could not handle the acidity which tells us that Xenomorphs could handle any acid/counter acid thrown their way, and if encountered by a stronger acid, they'd likely shrug it off like nothing any way.

I'm not saying that it isn't, and I can believe that AVP is its seperate thing, buuuut-

'it is known to be vulnerable to other forms of acid, as discovered by the crew of the Marion on LV-178' That's from Aliens: Out of the Shadows. Go look it up on amazon.

So what you're saying, is that if you take a plasma gun of some kind, mix it with a flamethrower, you 'don't' end up with a plasma torch?

[Zero]

Wait so this hole thing about the game went from "it's not fps so no buy" to now a flamethrower does nothing to a xeno? I mean I like aliens but dam how far does the hole go lol. If this game gets negative reviews because "but this is not canon" I'm going to lmao

[HEXEN]

Publicado originalmente por Blackguard:

Publicado originalmente por HEXEN:

This was written by a franchise consultant for the series.
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

So get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ I guess?

It literally says Out of the Shadows is canon.

Guess you can't read either, oh and let me just quote that same franchise consultant: "Remember that canon in any franchise is always fluid"

I'm done arguing with you. You're wrong. End of story.

Why are you even talking about Out of the Shadows? There is nothing in this book that proves your point. This discussion has nothing to do with acid. Your initial post was complete nonsense you pulled straight out of your ass. The article I sent you was to put the fact that Genocide isn't canon right in your dumb face as with most of the other Dark Horse limited series. You know why they aren't canon? Because they contradict the seminal entries in the Alien series. Almost everyone in this thread understands this.

[HEXEN]

Your argument is based on the completely fabricated assumption that the incinerator's fuel is corrosive which it isn't. Napalm is an incendiary substance that's been used as flamethrower fuel since ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WWII. There is nothing corrosive about it. And again, there is no such thing as a flamethrower that shoots "fire". Flamethrowers shoot ignited incendiary gel or liquid such as napalm. You then tried supporting your newly invented assumption with bottom of the barrel non canon examples, namely AvP and Genocide.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Angry Pillow]

Game it set like 200 years in the future...ITS A Sci-Fi FLAME Thrower! its kills ♥♥♥♥ boom end on discussion.

[that's what she said]

Imagine being anal about canon consistency with Alien movies...
We expect bugs to pop and it's a shooter. So it's better to make them pop. Man, it's aliens, there is no lore anymore, go watch Covenant again, it's canon and it took a massive dump on all canon lol Let's pretend m240 does damage xenos. Cause it does. End of story.

[The Big Red 1]

makes me wonder why the marines aren't going into combat with incendiary rounds and weapons when dealing with the aliens instead since fire is super-effective(no pokemon pun intended)/hurts the aliens hurt them bad. =3

[[Immortan joe]]

it's a film, and films from the 80s are restricted by budget and CGI for their time.
ffs the ending of Alien when Ripley fires the engines is done with water and big lamps. so no plasma and no fire. only creative special effects.