Save file size - can't join random lobbies - solved!

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Trying to figure out why I can't join random lobbies anymore. Can confirm that it is in fact bound to the save files. Tried a little with deleting and restarting the game and the save files.
A fresh start (all progress deleted) allows me to join random lobbies again.

Deleting the char.sav and deactivating steam cloud triggers a message in game saying that my save data is damaged and a backup will be loaded. I assume that the backups are the char_escrow.sav and char_knowngood.sav

Just realized that the files differed slightly in size.

char.sav 1.287 MB
char_escrow.sav 1.286 MB
char_knowngood.sav 1.287 MB

But after a session they all went equal. Saw a post of some one who had the same issues after joining a hackers lobby. So I am trying to find corrupted lines in the save files.

Can some one just check with his files if the size is always the same? Only thing I was able to do is load up the files in a Hex Editor but I absolutely don't know at what I am looking at.

[kazaric]

It does seem like once the save files go above a certain size it triggers the permanent lobby bug where you can no longer join people's lobby but I have no way to verify my theory.

The save files also grow bigger naturally as you collect more items and put more custom skins into your guns. I have managed to backup scum a save file that is almost at the "breaking point" where if I play one more match it will trigger the lobby bug and result in me no longer being able to join others. The size of that file is 1244kb. The lobby bug seems to occur once the files reach around 1250kb in size. I would need more tests to see if there's indeed any correlations.

You can also shrink your save file a bit by removing all weapon attachments and custom skins/character cosmetics that you have, but so far I have only been able to fix the lobby bug by shrinking my saves once, and it did not last very long, after a few games the game kicked me back to my own hangar and once again the lobby bug occured. Again more tests are needed.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by kazaric:

It does seem like once the save files go above a certain size it triggers the permanent lobby bug where you can no longer join people's lobby but I have no way to verify my theory.

The save files also grow bigger naturally as you collect more items and put more custom skins into your guns. I have managed to backup scum a save file that is almost at the "breaking point" where if I play one more match it will trigger the lobby bug and result in me no longer being able to join others. The size of that file is 1244kb. The lobby bug seems to occur once the files reach around 1250kb in size. I would need more tests to see if there's indeed any correlations.

You can also shrink your save file a bit by removing all weapon attachments and custom skins/character cosmetics that you have, but so far I have been unable to fix the lobby bug by shrinking my saves. Again more tests are needed.

Interesting theory. Would you maybe share your save file which is near breaking point? Will also try to strip down some gear and perks. Thanks for the tip toy around a little with the info.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by kazaric:

It does seem like once the save files go above a certain size it triggers the permanent lobby bug where you can no longer join people's lobby but I have no way to verify my theory.

The save files also grow bigger naturally as you collect more items and put more custom skins into your guns. I have managed to backup scum a save file that is almost at the "breaking point" where if I play one more match it will trigger the lobby bug and result in me no longer being able to join others. The size of that file is 1244kb. The lobby bug seems to occur once the files reach around 1250kb in size. I would need more tests to see if there's indeed any correlations.

You can also shrink your save file a bit by removing all weapon attachments and custom skins/character cosmetics that you have, but so far I have only been able to fix the lobby bug by shrinking my saves once, and it did not last very long, after a few games the game kicked me back to my own hangar and once again the lobby bug occured. Again more tests are needed.

Dude, I don't know what to say. You found the cause. Stripped down everything, all classes have no perks attached, all gun attachments and cosmetics stripped down, char is dressed with standard issue stuff, no emotes, shrunk down the char.sav to 1.239 MB, deleted the escrow and knowngood, restarted the game, joined a random lobby and it works. Man, so disappointed in myself that I haven't thought about save file bloating and that the devs didn't consider it, that's an old issue with many games suffering the same.

The devs should pay you for this! I can only provide you with my deepest love and a strange steam sticker, you need a hero award.

[kazaric]

Nice! I have also added you in steam if you are interested the breakpoint backup btw.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by kazaric:

Nice! I have also added you in steam if you are interested the breakpoint backup btw.

No need anymore bro, thanks. Your Brainpower was more than enough! Thank you.

[[FR] Crimson]

do i need to shrink down all 3 files or only char.sav needs to be shrinked down ? If possible i'd like to know how to delete emotes and character/weapon skins

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by |AoS| Crimson:

do i need to shrink down all 3 files or only char.sav needs to be shrinked down ? If possible i'd like to know how to delete emotes and character/weapon skins

The char.sav. The other 2 seems to be a backup or crosscheck. What I've done is really detach all attachments from the weapons and remove all skins for every weapon, deleted all the perk decks, dressed in the standard gear without head cosmetics.

That was enough for me to shrink it down to 1.239 MB. But I have plenty of cards and consumables which I am trying to get rid off.

Backup your save files, deactivate steam cloud, when you are below 1.240 MB, delete the escrow and knowngood files. sp the char.sav is the only one left. Start up the game, join a lobby.

[kazaric]

Originally posted by |AoS| Crimson:

If possible i'd like to know how to delete emotes and character/weapon skins

Too bad there isn't any, if only I had known about this bloating sooner then I wouldn't have bought all the skins and hats from the shop.

There is only so much you can shrink unfortunately and each time you play a game and pick up caches etc. your file size gets bigger again so you're merely delaying the inevitable.

[cszolee79]

How did your savegame get so big? After 80 hours mine is 847kb, and I have pretty much everything unlocked, all weapons kitted out, and same for all classes with perks, custom emotes, appearance etc.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by cszolee79:

How did your savegame get so big? After 80 hours mine is 847kb, and I have pretty much everything unlocked, all weapons kitted out, and same for all classes with perks, custom emotes, appearance etc.

Have 110 hours. Deluxe Edition comes with more crap, tons of cards and consumables, alls weapons customized and painted, I was such an Idiot. There's a money cap. I think 50k for normal credits and 5k for the special credits so I kept buying consumables and cards.

[Bottom of the Well]

Originally posted by cszolee79:

How did your savegame get so big? After 80 hours mine is 847kb, and I have pretty much everything unlocked, all weapons kitted out, and same for all classes with perks, custom emotes, appearance etc.

Yeah thats a good point. I have around 300 hours, all weapons skinned,decaled and 4 stared. Cleared everything, all achievements, and have been working on maxing consumabled at 999 each. Have turrets to 999 and working on cyro grind and drones atm. All classes in different outfits etc maxed also. Perk grides kitted out etc

Its 1,015 kb. Something is up making yours so much larger when i have everything more.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by Lord of Dog:

Originally posted by cszolee79:

How did your savegame get so big? After 80 hours mine is 847kb, and I have pretty much everything unlocked, all weapons kitted out, and same for all classes with perks, custom emotes, appearance etc.

Yeah thats a good point. I have around 300 hours, all weapons skinned,decaled and 4 stared. Cleared everything, all achievements, and have been working on maxing consumabled at 999 each. Have turrets to 999 and working on cyro grind and drones atm. All classes in different outfits etc maxed also

Its 1,015 kb. Something is up making yours so much larger when i have everything more.

Do you have the standard or deluxe edition? This is really strange. I have collected all the Intel myself, kids unlocked some weapons for me and the last perk block I received was Red is Dead but the bug was already in place. This stuff happened after the "hotfix" for the dailies.
After the hotfix I received the missing cosmetics, I have a suspicion tho, I think that the 6 free cards are the culprit somehow. Was wondering which cards I will get but it never showed as "New" because I have all the cards in my stack.

There was a similar issue with Outriders. They gifted everyone a legendary weapon, some haven't received it and some received a unlimited amount destroying the save files.

[Bottom of the Well]

Originally posted by FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD:

Originally posted by Lord of Dog:

Yeah thats a good point. I have around 300 hours, all weapons skinned,decaled and 4 stared. Cleared everything, all achievements, and have been working on maxing consumabled at 999 each. Have turrets to 999 and working on cyro grind and drones atm. All classes in different outfits etc maxed also

Its 1,015 kb. Something is up making yours so much larger when i have everything more.

Do you have the standard or deluxe edition? This is really strange. I have collected all the Intel myself, kids unlocked some weapons for me and the last perk block I received was Red is Dead but the bug was already in place. This stuff happened after the "hotfix" for the dailies.
After the hotfix I received the missing cosmetics, I have a suspicion tho, I think that the 6 free cards are the culprit somehow. Was wondering which cards I will get but it never showed as "New" because I have all the cards in my stack.

There was a similar issue with Outriders. They gifted everyone a legendary weapon, some haven't received it and some received a unlimited amount destroying the save files.

Deluxe all dlcs, everything. That is really weird the cards, they dont exactly cap out you can have 1000s of them.

[FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD]

Originally posted by Lord of Dog:

Originally posted by FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD:

Do you have the standard or deluxe edition? This is really strange. I have collected all the Intel myself, kids unlocked some weapons for me and the last perk block I received was Red is Dead but the bug was already in place. This stuff happened after the "hotfix" for the dailies.
After the hotfix I received the missing cosmetics, I have a suspicion tho, I think that the 6 free cards are the culprit somehow. Was wondering which cards I will get but it never showed as "New" because I have all the cards in my stack.

There was a similar issue with Outriders. They gifted everyone a legendary weapon, some haven't received it and some received a unlimited amount destroying the save files.

Deluxe all dlcs, everything.

WTF? Another poster also have the same issues but his save is less than 1 MB.
All on vanilla seems to solve it first, editing weapons or perks are breaking the game again. Need to do some more testing then. Tried to read into the .sav files but vie Hexedit it's kind of a chore.

Will try a vanilla char end upgrade step by step. A perk or attachment could also be the culprit. Just saw with the gunner that I was able to put a perk which should be attached to the abb just to a random grid. Was done before all the fixes and updates.

Will test some and update soon.

[kazaric]

Originally posted by FrittenFuchxsSdeiwelsWILD:

Originally posted by Lord of Dog:

Deluxe all dlcs, everything.

WTF? Another poster also have the same issues but his save is less than 1 MB.
All on vanilla seems to solve it first, editing weapons or perks are breaking the game again. Need to do some more testing then. Tried to read into the .sav files but vie Hexedit it's kind of a chore.

Will try a vanilla char end upgrade step by step. A perk or attachment could also be the culprit. Just saw with the gunner that I was able to put a perk which should be attached to the abb just to a random grid. Was done before all the fixes and updates.

Will test some and update soon.

Hmmm, are you sure he was referring to the same bug we have? Some guy also tried to ask me about his connection issues, after a bit of chatting turns out his problem had nothing to do with ours whatsoever. Some people can get confused and they mix up their connection problems with ours.