Drop Rate Issue?

[Doctor Orion]

So I am wondering about the 5 or 6 missing weapons I need to get to 31 weapons (all that are currently in game afaik) and I am wondering if I sort of screwed myself with the order of my progression.

So I beat all 12 missions on Normal, then I beat all 12 on Intense. After that, I started doing some random Intense missions (and by random I mean playing with others and doing what they wanted/needed and not caring for which ones specifically) and I also worked on Intense/Extreme/Insane Horde Mode. Well, I did a round of Easy Horde Mode, too, but that was just messing around.

Since I have the rewards for 10 waves completed on Insane and Extreme, did I gimp my own drop rate for guns in Intense as a result? Can anyone (preferably a dev) confirm this if so? Since I finished the 10 waves on Insane the other day, my Intense campaign missions to finish leveling jobs/weapons have been really bad. That is, quite often I finish a mission and the mission completion reward is just both currencies and nothing else. No card, no weapon spray, no weapon, no cosmetic, nothing but the 2 base store currencies and nothing else. Hell, most bonus crates I open inside missions on Intense are only giving me 2 cards and a consumable (or 2 consumables and a card) and only rarely now do I get another emote or weapon color that I'm missing.

The fact that the Horde Mode wins and the Campaign Mission wins are different sorts of skill sets (as evidenced by my lack of any Extreme mission wins yet, let alone Insane) and the requirements for completing Horde Mode waves is much lower than the same difficulty in missions sort of leads to the fact that one should not affect the other for drop rates if this is indeed the case.

So please, if this is the case, I hope the devs adjust it so I can get the last weapons I need on the Intense runs I've been doing instead of punishing me for not knowing the loot system before hand. Thanks!

[Dragon]

I ran ~20 intense missions before the Kramer dropped for me. It was the last weapon I needed, however. The drop table is a total drop chance, and you can get the standard rewards while playing on intense, further lowering your chances at getting the intense+ weapons.

Getting extra rewards from any source just removes that drop from the drop table, youre still just as "likely" to hit any weapon or decal or color.

[Doctor Orion]

Originally posted by Dragon:

I ran ~20 intense missions before the Kramer dropped for me. It was the last weapon I needed, however. The drop table is a total drop chance, and you can get the standard rewards while playing on intense, further lowering your chances at getting the intense+ weapons.

Getting extra rewards from any source just removes that drop from the drop table, youre still just as "likely" to hit any weapon or decal or color.

Awesome, thanks!

[Caracalla]

60 hours of intense to get the last two weapons. Got all drops except the gunner skill. Dunno if they are bugged.

[HeroFx™]

Yeah you need a bit luck I got all really quick but a friend of mine got colors etc and was pissed now he has all as well

[Plastikloser]

The rng on this is terrible. You can run all day and get nothing, while another person for 2 hours and gets it all. There needs to be a better balance

[Carpe x Noctem]

If you're playing on Intense, switch to Standard or vice versa. I was stuck getting nothing for for drops until I changed to a different difficulty. Within minutes, I had what I was missing.

[Doctor Orion]

Originally posted by Carpe x Noctem:

If you're playing on Intense, switch to Standard or vice versa. I was stuck getting nothing for for drops until I changed to a different difficulty. Within minutes, I had what I was missing.

So all of the drop-only weapons from the game's release will drop on normal??? Last I heard, they only dropped on Intense or higher.

Also, I find it amusing that only having 27 weapons before the patch might have helped me avoid the bug that people are experiencing where they suddenly have 30 weapons at 4 stars and don't get that chievo. So now, when I get to 30 and get them to 4 stars, hopefully I'll get it because I didn't have enough going into the patch!