Need 4 players fire teams put into the game. It was there originally, its obvious it was. Its just a better game this way.

[Ulfhedinn]

Ive had multiple instances of a glitch where we get four people playing in our group. Which means that somewhere in your code, four players was originally allowed, and you reduced it to three to make the game artificially harder.

This was a bad move in my opinion. Playing with four players, every single time, has been a better and more fulfilling experience, and makes Gunner and Medic much more viable, and less of a headache to deal with in horde mode, especially.

Im not knocking those classes, but in a game where you are literally doing horde combat, DPS will win over sustainability every time when choosing to use a class. Its the nature of it; especially when med packs drop from the mobs.

My suggestion, if you want to make this game a proper fire team horde fighter; give us four player fire teams again. This gives us a gunner to hype up the damage, a medic to run around and do his job, And either a recon or two demos to carry the rest of the weight of the fight.

While the easy and standard modes, and even intense modes would be easier with 4 players; on higher difficulties in the main quests it evens out nicely and creates a means by which we not only get more use out of classes, but we get to add another of our friends to our fire teams to play with. While right now, where we usually play as four with our friends; we have one person left out usually. Kinda sucks.

The game was meant for a four man or five man fire team. Adjust your aliens accordingly and give us that. Its a bad ass game, and is MORE fun the more people you have to coordinate with and try not to friendly fire each other.
Ive played with four in this game about 6 times now... its WORTH IT.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

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Kinda see a logic to it, 4 player could be quite fun.

but I have out killed demo's as a medic, so the argument of they don't have the output is invalid (to be fair, I think the best team for extreme + never includes a demo, gunner kills big things faster, the CC from the medic recon and tech is super useful.)

demo just gives a gun that can aim for you and rockets which, while awesome, deal with trash mobs. not much else... which the gunner can do with a grenade as well. demo's knock back is his best ability but even that sucks compared to everyone else's CC

Lol no. The Demo can get up 40% damage bonus on CC'd enemies and can do a radial CC every 5 seconds under max horde ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not even recon or slow healing station can do that.

Secondly Tech and Doc are broken as hell right now and until CI gets their perks to upgrade correctly, you're literally gimping yourself on purpose.

[[EED]Pod]

The reason the game still works ok with 4 players could well be that in 1-3 the game has to support 4 players as the 4th player is the doctor. Hes basically a bot with only a pistol and no abilities.

[glenn3e]

No. 3 is enough.

[Moffin Bovin]

Publicado originalmente por EEDPod:

The reason the game still works ok with 4 players could well be that in 1-3 the game has to support 4 players as the 4th player is the doctor. Hes basically a bot with only a pistol and no abilities.

How about an extra 2170 hp for an ability?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2589795472

jk, the medic definitely needs a rework or bug fixing or something

[[BRO]Ingvar]

Publicado originalmente por ThatZenoGuy:

Canonical fireteams in Aliens is 4 soldiers, 2 riflemen and 2 smartgunners/heavy weapons.

There is no centralized canon for the Aliens setting though. Thank god for that. The comics are absolute ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Zero]

No

[pRaX]

Publicado originalmente por Ingvar:

Publicado originalmente por ThatZenoGuy:

Canonical fireteams in Aliens is 4 soldiers, 2 riflemen and 2 smartgunners/heavy weapons.

There is no centralized canon for the Aliens setting though. Thank god for that. The comics are absolute ♥♥♥♥♥.

That's not from the comics. It's literally from Aliens and it's production.

[Padds]

Publicado originalmente por Eidetik:

Ive had multiple instances of a glitch where we get four people playing in our group. Which means that somewhere in your code, four players was originally allowed, and you reduced it to three to make the game artificially harder.

Ive played with four in this game about 6 times now... its WORTH IT.

Or maybe it was tested and found that people just got in each others way too much and on the higher difficulties the FF just became too frustrating where as 3 leaves enough routes and paths open for each team member to have a role without feeling crowded or it being a competition amongst the team for kills. as so often happens in 4 player co ops.

i love a lot of player co op games imo l4d2 is still the best of this genre , but i fail to understand the slavish demand for 4 players in everything , it sounds like its 4 man teams asking for it so they can all play together at once rather than people with actual reasons for it being better for the game.
ive played for 40 hours and have yet to be put into a 4 man team , how are you doing it?

[ThatZenoGuy]

Publicado originalmente por Ingvar:

Publicado originalmente por ThatZenoGuy:

Canonical fireteams in Aliens is 4 soldiers, 2 riflemen and 2 smartgunners/heavy weapons.

There is no centralized canon for the Aliens setting though. Thank god for that. The comics are absolute ♥♥♥♥♥.

Its literally straight out of the Colonial Marines Technical Manual, the single greatest Aliens material other than the first two films.

[Jack Jester]

4 man squad is a very good idea.

The "Fireteam" is similar to "Multiplayer Mass Effect 3". That worked very well with 4 people.
Contrary to other statements, a squad usually has 4 people.

It is also possible to insert more classes, Nobody can be so unimaginative that one cannot accomplish this.

Greetings!

[Tenshi Noyo Senshi]

It's certainly awkward after so many years of limiting co-op to just four players to suddenly introduce a game with only three players max. Because of the way that's been built up over many years, quite a few people have regular groups of just four people running games together. It's literally an odd number between having a minimum of two to a max of four.

I understand if the game's been balanced, in the end, for three players, but perhaps the devs wouldn't be opposed to investigating alternative modes, difficulties, and etc. to have four players together? Especially if the game's successful enough to warrant new content.

A separate four-player mode could be introduced with its own achievements and the like, with a slightly tougher campaign on all difficulties to match, while retaining the three-player mode for those who really need it.

Or something along those lines.

Would love a proper crouch, too, even with three players, to make more room for attacking enemies around other players.

[Scyfer]

I just had 4 players in my group ...took screen shots ...was way more fun than 3 ...but 3 isnt bad lol ...also some kind of chat...srsly

[V]

The game is far from better with 4 players,
Every level is done to quickly and its no fun at all, in tight spaces you can see hardly anything, ..and god forbid having 4 flamethrowers in a group!

[Kae]

Just did the first 3 campaign missions some minutes ago while trying the recon class that i didn't lvled since i have unlocked it.
That was fun but the netcode was weird sometimes xenos were becoming speedsters during the final wave.
The team was 1 demo 2 gunners and me as a reco.

[dt Walter Robinson]

You can be an Aliens fan for 100 years, but if that makes you think that your opinions are correct, then you are mistaken.

Please read the Aliens Colonial Marines Technical Manual ISBN 978 1781161319 - it's a bit dated but there is no more authoritative, detailed source for Aliens world data.

BTW, I've been an Aliens fan since it was released - I was a little kid in 1986 and when I first saw the ads, I knew that I HAD to see that movie.

So I am literally amongst the very earliest fans of Aliens.