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Kronos Nov 17, 2022 @ 3:12pm
Additional poison damage link rune not working with toxic flame (?)
Hey guys,

so i watched some video guides and also looked at profiles ingame and basically everyone playing toxic flame plays it with additional poison damage linked to it. I just tested it and it increases your sheet dps aswell as the poison dot damage number in your character info. Then i went to the training dummies and tested toxic flame with and without additional poison damage linked to it and it was exactly the same, no actual dps increase with the rune (neither damage number on top of dummy nor dps number in the 60 second test).
I know deadly poison is not working with toxic flame, but additional poison damage also? Can someone confirm this? Am i just missing something? Like i said before, the sheet dps increases, so it seems it should work but it actually doesnt...
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CosmicDan Nov 17, 2022 @ 3:33pm 
I think this is a translation issue. Toxic Flame does not inflict Poison DoT, it doesn't benefit from it at all. It is probably supposed to be a unique "Toxic DoT". Kind of like some of the other skills that have a unique DoT that isn't in the Burn/Bleed/Poison DoT trinity.

This is what I've heard from some guild mates anyway, I don't personally use TF.

Either that or it's a bug, since you say equipping it does actually increase the Poison DoT stats on the stat sheet. Weird, didn't know that.
Last edited by CosmicDan; Nov 17, 2022 @ 3:35pm
wespe___o=/;;;:* Nov 17, 2022 @ 4:32pm 
Because of BALANCING some skills have been abominated by the devs :SSOD_poison:
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Torinux Nov 18, 2022 @ 8:10am 
The game shows wrong numbers all around. The numbers shown in the Rune Grid is just an estimation and not accurate and I've tested it going broke on my main char lol. It is made like this on purpose expecting the player to buy the Zodiac Walker item that let you reset for for free the zodiac and attributes for 6 hours.

A lot of the nodes in the Zodiac Tree don't do what they are supposed to do and others straight out don't do nothing. Haven't you noticed that some "HP" nodes as soon as you get them increase the DPS of your skills and give no HP to your char?

Now when it comes to Toxic Flame the Element of the skill is POISON but the skill just applies a poison DoT and the only way to properly scale it is by adding elemental damage and DoT related stats. Stuff like Poison DMG added, etc; will be of little effect for the skill.

Even tho these are minimal increments we still add them because well, there's nothing else we can add to the skill right now. TF is so good that even with a 4L you can do pretty much end game, that is if you max out those 4 link rune up to 30 and by making them legendary.

TL;DR is:
TF poison damage is calculated as a DoT with poison property and not as an actual poison damage spell. TF DoT works different than a regular poison stack.
evok May 1, 2023 @ 5:51pm 
Thanks for the detailed post! I believe Poison damage added works now in fact. When I add one of those nodes in the Zodiac it shows an increase in dps with the icon of TF.
Torinux May 1, 2023 @ 7:30pm 
Originally posted by evok:
Thanks for the detailed post! I believe Poison damage added works now in fact. When I add one of those nodes in the Zodiac it shows an increase in dps with the icon of TF.
Yeah, they fixed the descriptions and the actual tags on the skills. Before the patch, some poison damage nodes were meant to work with the VENOM mechanic and not the poison damage.

Even tho Toxic Flame is a poison element, what actually increment the damage of the skill now is the DoT modifiers more than the actual poison nodes.
evok May 1, 2023 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by TorinuxCthulhu:
Originally posted by evok:
Thanks for the detailed post! I believe Poison damage added works now in fact. When I add one of those nodes in the Zodiac it shows an increase in dps with the icon of TF.
Yeah, they fixed the descriptions and the actual tags on the skills. Before the patch, some poison damage nodes were meant to work with the VENOM mechanic and not the poison damage.

Even tho Toxic Flame is a poison element, what actually increment the damage of the skill now is the DoT modifiers more than the actual poison nodes.

True but the poison nodes are working just fine when there are no more Dot nodes available. My char is doing the story again in season mode, level 65 and just wrecking everything :steamthumbsup:
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Date Posted: Nov 17, 2022 @ 3:12pm
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