For those who have played this game..

[aeternox]

How P2W is this game compared to DI?

[LordderNarren]

Its way better in my oppinion. Its more Pay to Progress but still a little bit pay2win but it really is ok. you can make youre Way without Money. I am not really sure about it because i have not reached the Endgame and i dont play PvP. But what i can say fore sure is: Its a way better Game than Immortal. Undecember is ARPG, wich is also available for Mobile but Immortal is only a mobile ARPG. Undecember is a serius Game. Looking forward to the Global release and i hope i can keep my corean Account and play on European Servers.

[aeternox]

Originally posted by LordderNarren:

Its way better in my oppinion. Its more Pay to Progress but still a little bit pay2win but it really is ok. you can make youre Way without Money. I am not really sure about it because i have not reached the Endgame and i dont play PvP. But what i can say fore sure is: Its a way better Game than Immortal. Undecember is ARPG, wich is also available for Mobile but Immortal is only a mobile ARPG. Undecember is a serius Game. Looking forward to the Global release and i hope i can keep my corean Account and play on European Servers.

thanks for your opinion, but I'm honestly more concerned after reading your opinion

1. I'm only concerned about heavy P2W system as far as PVP goes, idc how "P2W" a game is, if it's PVE focused, and since you don't play PvP there, it's still uncertain how heavily P2W this game is

2. Undecember is an ARPG (on PC) which is also available on Mobile. Diablo Immortal is also available on PC despite being a mobile game first, it doesn't mean Undecember will be "less" P2W than DI because it's originally a PC game, sadly

3. Some ppl who have played before (and some are real Koreans) stated that this is a P2W game, and knowing some Korean games before, I'm pretty sure this is also a P2W game, I just hope they don't lock legendary gears/gems/drop rates behind a purchase only crests or sth

I'm looking forward to playing this game when it comes to steam, I kinda wish its paid contents are only cosmetics or some sort

[Deklan]

As i recall the P2W aspect is for crafting, you can just use your money till you have all the affixes you want, i enjoyed the game so far but lost ark came right after the korean release.

You need also a currency that is behind real money to buy from others in auction house , but you still can sell loots to others as a F2P player and get the currency.

[CocoNut-Pete]

How it's pay to win: Bosses are very hard for no reason, but you can resurect during fight with you credit card ... greedy and p2w!
But probably better than DI.

[aeternox]

thanks, then it's way better than DI
if it's only like what all of you describe, then I consider it "mild" P2W (acceptable)

[LordderNarren]

Originally posted by aeternox:

Originally posted by LordderNarren:

Its way better in my oppinion. Its more Pay to Progress but still a little bit pay2win but it really is ok. you can make youre Way without Money. I am not really sure about it because i have not reached the Endgame and i dont play PvP. But what i can say fore sure is: Its a way better Game than Immortal. Undecember is ARPG, wich is also available for Mobile but Immortal is only a mobile ARPG. Undecember is a serius Game. Looking forward to the Global release and i hope i can keep my corean Account and play on European Servers.

thanks for your opinion, but I'm honestly more concerned after reading your opinion :d2tidehunter:

1. I'm only concerned about heavy P2W system as far as PVP goes, idc how "P2W" a game is, if it's PVE focused, and since you don't play PvP there, it's still uncertain how heavily P2W this game is

2. Undecember is an ARPG (on PC) which is also available on Mobile. Diablo Immortal is also available on PC despite being a mobile game first, it doesn't mean Undecember will be "less" P2W than DI because it's originally a PC game, sadly

3. Some ppl who have played before (and some are real Koreans) stated that this is a P2W game, and knowing some Korean games before, I'm pretty sure this is also a P2W game, I just hope they don't lock legendary gears/gems/drop rates behind a purchase only crests or sth

I'm looking forward to playing this game when it comes to steam, I kinda wish its paid contents are only cosmetics or some sort

Well i cant say so much about it and i understand youre concerns. I am also still concerned. But i think there are fifty shades of p2w and i can live with pay to progress faster or at least p2w that matter mainly in pvp. The Game has the typical asian rng, an i guess you can pay a lot to roll out the bis stuff. but maybe you can gamble out cool ♥♥♥♥ with some luck an a little more playtim. than the p2w would not be so overwealming. but we will see...

[LordderNarren]

Originally posted by CocoNut-Pete:

How it's pay to win: Bosses are very hard for no reason, but you can resurect during fight with you credit card ... greedy and p2w!
But probably better than DI.

I can rez for for free during a bossfight. its limited but this more of convinience item. If youre skilled and know the mechanics and have diffrent gear sets in youre stash you can kill the Bobos. It is a korrean MMO. Dont expect a POE or D3....

[LordderNarren]

Originally posted by LordderNarren:

Originally posted by CocoNut-Pete:

How it's pay to win: Bosses are very hard for no reason, but you can resurect during fight with you credit card ... greedy and p2w!
But probably better than DI.

I can rez for for free during a bossfight. its limited but this more of convinience item. If youre skilled and know the mechanics and have diffrent gear sets in youre stash you can kill the Bobos. It is a korrean MMO. Dont expect a POE or D3....

i mean lost ark has p2w too. i dont know how much because i wont play it till this fckn generlocks are removed for the mage and the rogue.

[DeadlyKitten]

Its not even a competition between the two.
This game beats Diablo Immortal into oblivion. Immortal is a literal casino with a trash game attached. It doesn't even have extensive skill customization, or similar skill runes like diablo 3.
Immortal is the most trashiest game ever made, with extremely low amount of content at release. As well as the only way to get stronger is to pay real money.

This game has similar structure to Path Of Exile.
Skill gem system, where instead of linking them on the gear you have a hex grid.
Better loot and stat randomization, items have so many item stats.
But at the same time a lot of crafting currency just like path of exile. Each one has different usages, from reroll random stats on items to upgrading low rarities into higher ones.
Has a lot of content at release.

Monetization, the only thing i've seen thats pay to win is being able to select the stats you want to roll on an item. That's about it.
You can pay for more stash space as well as the currency and crafting tab.
Nothing on the scale of the sh!tty Diablo Immortal is doing.
You don't pay to get the strongest gear in the game.
You can get every type of loot drop just playing the game.

[LordderNarren]

I couldnt have said it better. Thank you:)