Sometimes it takes 5+ rounds to take down an enemy

[LumberA52]

I know that adrenaline can do some crazy stuff, but it seems very unrealistic that it takes so many rounds to kill enemies. I've had times where it takes 6...

[Ragged Old Flag]

Originally posted by LumberA52:

I know that adrenaline can do some crazy stuff, but it seems very unrealistic that it takes so many rounds to kill enemies. I've had times where it takes 6...

It was common to sometimes have to shoot people multiple times to put them down. That’s not unrealistic. I have nearly 3 years of combat time in Iraq during GWOT and witnessed on multiple occasions it take multiple rounds of 5.56 to put someone down for good.

[pandelix]

This game MUST balance between realisam and PC fun !
5+ is really, really too much... Even 50% of players "where not delighted" with 3+ hits.
2 Main problems:
- Its is not "sometimes" in gameply but most of the time
- They are not "down" : but appear later on in combat healty and deadly !

I know something about real war: NOBODY with 2+ hits of 5.56 in chest or stomach (even in hand) will appear 4-5 minutes again in combat at new location !
( SDF engine does not recognise "hit shock", "nerve damage/pain", "bleeding"...etc )

At PC gameply it must be 1-2 clear shots max. no matter what happened sometimes in Iraq...

( Game devs. will certainly not spend weeks to develop AI enemy - who will escape with 2 shots and remain useless in that building, with other 2 AI occupied with helping him - what was the main goal in 5.56 caiber project )

[Ragged Old Flag]

Originally posted by pandelix:

I know something about real war: NOBODY with 2+ hits of 5.56 in chest or stomach (even in hand) will appear 4-5 minutes again in combat at new location !

This statement tells me that you know nothing about real war. We never spoke in absolutes in combat. You can’t guarantee X amount of rounds will neutralize a target. There’s too many variables to trust in absolutes because there are none in combat. Once you start putting false faith into those “absolutes” thats when people start getting killed.

[Chef_423]

Originally posted by Ragged Old Flag:

Originally posted by LumberA52:

I know that adrenaline can do some crazy stuff, but it seems very unrealistic that it takes so many rounds to kill enemies. I've had times where it takes 6...

It was common to sometimes have to shoot people multiple times to put them down. That’s not unrealistic. I have nearly 3 years of combat time in Iraq during GWOT and witnessed on multiple occasions it take multiple rounds of 5.56 to put someone down for good.

+1 He's 100 correct. Adrenaline is a helluva drug

[alm00ighty]

Originally posted by pandelix:

This game MUST balance between realisam and PC fun !
5+ is really, really too much... Even 50% of players "where not delighted" with 3+ hits.
2 Main problems:
- Its is not "sometimes" in gameply but most of the time
- They are not "down" : but appear later on in combat healty and deadly !

I know something about real war: NOBODY with 2+ hits of 5.56 in chest or stomach (even in hand) will appear 4-5 minutes again in combat at new location !
( SDF engine does not recognise "hit shock", "nerve damage/pain", "bleeding"...etc )

At PC gameply it must be 1-2 clear shots max. no matter what happened sometimes in Iraq...

( Game devs. will certainly not spend weeks to develop AI enemy - who will escape with 2 shots and remain useless in that building, with other 2 AI occupied with helping him - what was the main goal in 5.56 caiber project )

Nah it was not likely 1-2 shots center mass were killing every time, a lot of cases people that were not even drugged up took 5-10 rounds, these bullets were going right through bodies CQB I don't think you understand that this game is aiming for realism. It never should turn into "Insurgency Sandstorm", these devs are going in the right path.