Mods

[Legion]

Will mods be a thing? It'd be nice to be able to add custom weapons, characters, environments, etc to the game.

[Gonzo850]

Games like these benefit a lot from modding communities. I hope they do. I think I saw a reshade mod for this game within days of it coming out. But I also understand if devs decide not to allow them. The subject matter of this game can inspire the creation of mods that could get this game and devs in trouble.

[Hunter2k6]

Steam Workshop Mod and Better Animation (like Ready or Not) is what I wish for this game

[Hodor]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

The subject matter of this game can inspire the creation of mods that could get this game and devs in trouble.

Never heard of mods that get developers in trouble unless it's a mod that enabled cut content that was left in the game files. e.g. hot coffee for gta. But other than that, the nature of modding = devs responsibility free and cannot be sued.

Steam workshop also allows devs or valve to remove select mods they don't like hosted there for whatever reason e.g. copyright. But again, devs 100% cannot be sued for these player made content.

[Fatso]

the community manager on their discord said they're not planning on that at the moment

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Hodor:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

The subject matter of this game can inspire the creation of mods that could get this game and devs in trouble.

Never heard of mods that get developers in trouble unless it's a mod that enabled cut content that was left in the game files. e.g. hot coffee for gta. But other than that, the nature of modding = devs responsibility free and cannot be sued.

Steam workshop also allows devs or valve to remove select mods they don't like hosted there for whatever reason e.g. copyright. But again, devs 100% cannot be sued for these player made content.

Well it's been happening since the 90's as far as I can remember. Doom was one of the first games I know to have to deal with obscene mods getting games and devs in trouble.

Wait... you said "never heard of it happening" then gave some examples yourself lol.

[leon44gamer]

There won't be mod support

[Hodor]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Hodor:

Never heard of mods that get developers in trouble unless it's a mod that enabled cut content that was left in the game files. e.g. hot coffee for gta. But other than that, the nature of modding = devs responsibility free and cannot be sued.

Steam workshop also allows devs or valve to remove select mods they don't like hosted there for whatever reason e.g. copyright. But again, devs 100% cannot be sued for these player made content.

Well it's been happening since the 90's as far as I can remember. Doom was one of the first games I know to have to deal with obscene mods getting games and devs in trouble.

Wait... you said "never heard of it happening" then game some examples yourself lol.

It's called a figure of speech, look up google on why the English language has it. =P

If you got proof of the doom developers being successfully sued for mods, do link them, otherwise I'm assuming that's bullcrap.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Hodor:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Well it's been happening since the 90's as far as I can remember. Doom was one of the first games I know to have to deal with obscene mods getting games and devs in trouble.

Wait... you said "never heard of it happening" then game some examples yourself lol.

It's called a figure of speech, look up google on why the English language has it. =P

If you got proof of the doom developers being successfully sued for mods, do link them, otherwise I'm assuming that's bullcrap.

Honestly it doesn't sound like you are really interested. Just looking for a fight.

It's interesting stuff to look into for anyone that's into gaming history. Marine Doom was an interesting story too. I don't know about lawsuits but I'm talking about general trouble. Something that these devs don't need. Boycotts, drama and anything that hurts sales or brings in waves of the wrong crowd.

[Hodor]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Hodor:

It's called a figure of speech, look up google on why the English language has it. =P

If you got proof of the doom developers being successfully sued for mods, do link them, otherwise I'm assuming that's bullcrap.

Honestly it doesn't sound like you are really interested. Just looking for a fight.

It's interesting stuff to look into for anyone that's into gaming history. Marine Doom was an interesting story too. I don't know about lawsuits but I'm talking about general trouble. Something that these devs don't need. Boycotts, drama and anything that hurts sales or brings in waves of the wrong crowd.

Nah, I'm genuinely interested that's why I gave an example about how devs could be held accountable for their own content. But it's also to highlight they made the cut content that they got sued for, not the player.

Not having mods is fine, but I don't buy the reason they can be accountable for player made stuff as that is simply not true. I think this game will survive, those wanting to boycott and drama already did their best and failed, thankfully.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Hodor:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Honestly it doesn't sound like you are really interested. Just looking for a fight.

It's interesting stuff to look into for anyone that's into gaming history. Marine Doom was an interesting story too. I don't know about lawsuits but I'm talking about general trouble. Something that these devs don't need. Boycotts, drama and anything that hurts sales or brings in waves of the wrong crowd.

Nah, I'm genuinely interested that's why I gave an example about how devs could be held accountable for their own content. But it's also to highlight they made the cut content that they got sued for, not the player.

Not having mods is fine, but I don't buy the reason they can be accountable for player made stuff as that is simply not true. I think this game will survive, those wanting to boycott and drama already did their best and failed, thankfully.

I already explained what I meant. I never went into legal trouble stuff. You are the only one stressing about legality issues.

[Hodor]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Hodor:

Nah, I'm genuinely interested that's why I gave an example about how devs could be held accountable for their own content. But it's also to highlight they made the cut content that they got sued for, not the player.

Not having mods is fine, but I don't buy the reason they can be accountable for player made stuff as that is simply not true. I think this game will survive, those wanting to boycott and drama already did their best and failed, thankfully.

I already explained what I meant. I never went into legal trouble stuff. You are the only one stressing about legality issues.

That's cuz we live in societies and all of them are based on law, and currently the popular way to take down something more powerful than ourselves. And modding is not a new frontier, it's been tested over decades and held as trouble free, that's why so many indies out there jump on it without fear of getting in a fix.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Hodor:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

I already explained what I meant. I never went into legal trouble stuff. You are the only one stressing about legality issues.

That's cuz we live in societies and all of them are based on law, and currently the popular way to take down something more powerful than ourselves. And modding is not a new frontier, it's been tested over decades and held as trouble free, that's why so many indies out there jump on it without fear of getting in a fix.

I get your point. That is all that matters to you. But I think there should be more to be considered especially with this game. For example, I think something like a mod making political statements and making fun of killing civilians could be potentially really damaging to this game no matter if the devs get sued for it or not. The subject of the game is Fallujah after all. It's drama they can't afford to deal with. Time is better spend focusing on actually developing the game. If the devs had decided against mods for this reason I would have understood.

[AmperCamper]

Originally posted by Fatso:

the community manager on their discord said they're not planning on that at the moment

This is correct. We're very mindful of the modding community and are excited by some of the options, but we're also being very respectful of the content matter in question. It's a tricky situation.