Define "attack"

[Nabaus]

Some badges are conditional on attacking, one in particular is asking me not to attack anyone in a mission- that seems impossible, unless the language being used is terrible- can I still knockout guards?

[Tricking Trapster]

It varies from badge to badge - Start a mission and just run up to a guard and use a knockout to see if it counts or not.

[ggsnake]

Knocking out usually counts as an attack. The only thing that doesn't is killing or knocking out a guard that opens a rift to exit the level, for obvious reasons.

[Patroklos]

I've definitely received badges for not attacking people when I knocked them out, and also not received badges but never seen a thing saying badge failed. But I've also gotten badges for not using ladders when I definitely used ladders, and not gotten badges for doing a mission with just pinkus when I definitely used just Pinkus. I'm worried badges are very buggy right now.

[LouisKM124]

There’s a badge that only knock out is allowed in 10 games. Besides, knock out counts as attack.

[Bertie]

If it says 'do not attack' it means you can't attack them in any way, including a non-lethal.

If it says 'do not kill' then you can knock them out, but cannot kill them

Originally posted by Patroklos:

I've definitely received badges for not attacking people when I knocked them out, and also not received badges but never seen a thing saying badge failed. But I've also gotten badges for not using ladders when I definitely used ladders, and not gotten badges for doing a mission with just pinkus when I definitely used just Pinkus. I'm worried badges are very buggy right now.

The badge failure messages only appear once you have completed the game

Do you know which ladder mission it was, as it can potentially be investigated?

I believe the Pinkus only mission is bugged

[Lady Neravin]

Originally posted by Bertie:

The badge failure messages only appear once you have completed the game

Does that count for the remaining crew quests? Because I din't get those there.

[Bertie]

Originally posted by Lady Neravin:

Originally posted by Bertie:

The badge failure messages only appear once you have completed the game

Does that count for the remaining crew quests? Because I din't get those there.

I'm not sure - it's quite possible they don't appear until you've completed the mission as well but I'm not able to test that as I've done them all already.

[Qwib-Qwib]

Originally posted by Bertie:

If it says 'do not attack' it means you can't attack them in any way, including a non-lethal.

If it says 'do not kill' then you can knock them out, but cannot kill them

I can confirm at least some of these badges are bugged, then. I've gotten "Just passing through", "Just fun and games" and "Just leave them be" despite punching everyone I came across. Less sure about the last one, since I don't remember whether or not I knocked the Kindred out, but I wouldn't be surprised.

[Revenant]

Does putting a knocked out body into a bush or other hiding place count as a "kill"?

[CallMeRED]

TIP : for the "do not attack or kill" badge, use Gaelle ; load the guards and unload them in a bush. As long as you don't throw them in water (they will die) you will be safe.

[PancorJackhammer]

Originally posted by Revenant:

Does putting a knocked out body into a bush or other hiding place count as a "kill"?

throwing them in the water or from high attitude kills them. bushes and quentins chest should be fine.

[Kissatytöt on ihania <3]

Interestingly Zagan's Catatonic Grip (A) doesn't seem to count as attacking. Quentin's treasure hunt chapter 1 has badge that says don't attack or kill anyone and Catatonic Grip didn't trigger badge failed message. On that note I would have had no idea how to get the first clue without attacking anyone. There's 2 acolytes, 1 comissarius and one patrol watching the spot where cutscene triggers.

[[BR1] 》Billynair]

I dont know man, this is kind of a weird one...

Sometimes "Attacking" means dont even hit them, and other times, it is OK if you knock them out and hide them in a bush:
I just got "Just Fun and Games" (Finish a mission without attacking anyone) but I also got "It was Enough 10 Bodies Ago" (Hide 20 guards in the Magic bushes) which, if you read them both, sounds like you CANT get them at the same time...

They need to fix the wording to match the actual requirements of the Badge