Hammerwatch II

Hammerwatch II

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Aetrion Aug 24, 2023 @ 10:31am
Day/Night cycle adds nothing to the game.
Easily the biggest thing that annoys me with this game is the day/night cycle because it really adds nothing to the game and is mostly just annoying.

As far as I can tell there aren't any night-time activities that give you a good reason to run around at night, and even if there were, it would be nicer to be able to access the by resting than simply having the game switch to them while you're doing other stuff.

The fact that all the NPCs close up shop, even down to fast travel options is just annoying. What was the point of adding this?
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my butt is erect Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Take a look at majora's mask, where it actually made the game insteresting. In this game it's a hilarious failure.
Muffinslop Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:50pm 
You are not a clown you are the whole circus.
Muffinslop Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by Aetrion:
As far as I can tell there aren't any night-time activities that give you a good reason to run around at night, and even if there were, it would be nicer to be able to access the by resting than simply having the game switch to them while you're doing other stuff.

This sounds like you don't know that you can rest at inns to pass time
Matticus Aug 24, 2023 @ 7:48pm 
It literally only exists to slow the player down, nothing else.
Muffinslop Aug 24, 2023 @ 9:13pm 
Stop pretending like this feature isn't in place to ground you into the world the devs have made to immerse the player. Subjective takes like "I don't like it" are fine. The main genre of a game isn't it's limitation.
It's as if skyrim is wasting your time because the shop keeper locked his doors and went to bed. It's as if a shooter game is wasting your time because you're not shooting.
You lack perspective and attention to detail to the game world and you're whining in steam forums about it. Aren't you wasting your time doing that? What's the point of complaining about games on Steam forums? Steam is for playing games!
Last edited by Muffinslop; Aug 24, 2023 @ 9:14pm
Matticus Aug 24, 2023 @ 9:36pm 
Slob on that dev knob
Power Aug 24, 2023 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Matticus:
Slob on that dev knob
They're not slobbing on anything. I just bought this and I've never played any of the previous hammerwatch stuff. But they're right. Day and Night cycles are there for immersion and they've been used for like... 20 years at this point. Why are you guys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about a completely normal thing for an RPG? If you couldn't sleep through the night at an inn.... I'd sort of get it. But to complain that day/night exists? That's just stupid.
ionface Aug 24, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
I've used the nighttime in this game to watch Youtube videos, and to stir fry a succulent Chinese meal.

Gold is hard to come by in the first 12 hours of playtime, and it's easy to kill everything you can and have no more content to consume. So entertain yourself elsewhere while waiting for the simulated dawn to come at last!
Power Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by ionface:
I've used the nighttime in this game to watch Youtube videos, and to stir fry a succulent Chinese meal.

Gold is hard to come by in the first 12 hours of playtime, and it's easy to kill everything you can and have no more content to consume. So entertain yourself elsewhere while waiting for the simulated dawn to come at last!
Gold is hard to come by? I think I had like 3k in the first 30 minutes...
Aetrion Aug 26, 2023 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by Muffinwatch:
This sounds like you don't know that you can rest at inns to pass time

I do know that. The question is why should I have to periodically have to pay a portion of my gold just be allowed to turn in a quest or sell items?

What does this add to the game? There is no added challenge attached to it. You just get back to town and the game randomly charges you a fee for being able to keep playing.
bonerwizard Aug 26, 2023 @ 8:03am 
It's not true that they add nothing. The day/night cycles add waiting to the game.

Whether you want to wait for the sun to come up, or wait whilenyou run back to town to rest at an inn. Enjoy the immersion of aimless waiting!
Power Aug 26, 2023 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by Aetrion:
Originally posted by Muffinwatch:
This sounds like you don't know that you can rest at inns to pass time

I do know that. The question is why should I have to periodically have to pay a portion of my gold just be allowed to turn in a quest or sell items?

What does this add to the game? There is no added challenge attached to it. You just get back to town and the game randomly charges you a fee for being able to keep playing.
Sounds like you're not mad about the inn and day and night cycle. You're mad there's no camping option to rest for free.

Inns should give buffs for sleeping in them. Waiting and tents should be free but no buff. there you go. Issue fixed.
GuitarQweero Aug 26, 2023 @ 1:09pm 
I like it, just sleep at the inn if you wanna pass time, it adds some depth to the world.
bonerwizard Aug 26, 2023 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by GuitarHearts:
I like it, just sleep at the inn if you wanna pass time, it adds some depth to the world.
Bus stops must be super compelling for you.
Power Aug 26, 2023 @ 5:42pm 
Originally posted by bonerwizard:
Originally posted by GuitarHearts:
I like it, just sleep at the inn if you wanna pass time, it adds some depth to the world.
Bus stops must be super compelling for you.
Instant and constant action is not compelling for everyone. You may be looking for Heroes of Hammerwatch. The roguelike. THIS is an RPG. RPGs sometimes have waiting. There are massive skyrim mods literally set around waiting.
A very robust camping mod about creating a fire, putting down a tent, sleeping and waiting out snow storms.

Things taking time roots the player into the world into the world on a subconcious level.
I don't particularly like bus stops. But if I never had to wait at one again I would probably think I had slipped into the matrix and I'd be really paranoid. Real life has waiting. I expect my RPGs to mimic that.

If that's not for you I suggest playing a rogue like instead.
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Date Posted: Aug 24, 2023 @ 10:31am
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