Echoes of the Plum Grove

Echoes of the Plum Grove

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What is the most fun way to play?
Right now I find myself caught in a cycle. I get up, water my crops, eat one meal, shake every tree, talk to every villager, go to bed. Am I doing something wrong? I will try and see if there are quests I can accomplish... I don't have trouble making taxes and I have lots of preserved foods... I just feel like I'm not making any progress.

At this point, I wish I had returned it. I met the witch and she felt incredibly mundane... she asked me to build a bridge... I get that it is a generational game, but it is so incredibly slow. I thought the relationship building would be more complex... I thought there would be more secrets and dark undertones... but there is none of that. So far the darkest undertone is that everyone is always one meal away from crippling hunger and nothing ever lasts. Do I have to grind for 50 hours to get anywhere interesting, or am I doing the whole game wrong?

This is all beside the fact that it feels incomplete. Several people have asked for boiled pudding, and I can't find cream for sale or find a way to make it from milk... The inventory system has no sorting or even an indicator (other than hovering over each item stack) to see when things will rot... it makes more sense to sell 3 wheat (9 coins each) and buy one bread (26 coins) than to use them to make flour and then get an egg to bake with so the economy is also confusing... and QUALITY of food doesn't seem to matter so why not just eat survival salad and preserved foods and sell all the rest?...

I'm just really disappointed and confused at the moment and hoping some die-hard fan can help turn my outlook around.
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Stormwind Jun 5, 2024 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by Great Charade:
Right now I find myself caught in a cycle. I get up, water my crops, eat one meal, shake every tree, talk to every villager, go to bed. Am I doing something wrong? I will try and see if there are quests I can accomplish... I don't have trouble making taxes and I have lots of preserved foods... I just feel like I'm not making any progress.

At this point, I wish I had returned it. I met the witch and she felt incredibly mundane... she asked me to build a bridge... I get that it is a generational game, but it is so incredibly slow. I thought the relationship building would be more complex... I thought there would be more secrets and dark undertones... but there is none of that. So far the darkest undertone is that everyone is always one meal away from crippling hunger and nothing ever lasts. Do I have to grind for 50 hours to get anywhere interesting, or am I doing the whole game wrong?

This is all beside the fact that it feels incomplete. Several people have asked for boiled pudding, and I can't find cream for sale or find a way to make it from milk... The inventory system has no sorting or even an indicator (other than hovering over each item stack) to see when things will rot... it makes more sense to sell 3 wheat (9 coins each) and buy one bread (26 coins) than to use them to make flour and then get an egg to bake with so the economy is also confusing... and QUALITY of food doesn't seem to matter so why not just eat survival salad and preserved foods and sell all the rest?...

I'm just really disappointed and confused at the moment and hoping some die-hard fan can help turn my outlook around.


It depends on what you like to do in cozy and farming games like these and what "goals" you might decide to complete.
For example, are you interested in achievements?
Do you like decorating the exterior and interior of your home?
Do you like spending years in the game to see what your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren will be like and how the children and grandchildren of the NPCs in the village will become?
It also depends on the game mode you are playing (age activated or deactivated, diseases...).
An idea could be that you could take your time to obtain all the achievements etc.
From what I remember reading here in the next patches the Devs will add new things. Regarding the economy and the quality of things, you are right, many things make more sense to be bought instead of waiting to be able to produce them, cook them etc.
On the internet you can find Wheels with random events, one of them is called Echoes of Drama Wheel.

I hope I helped you a bit. :)
Great Charade Jun 5, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Kristina_TTV:
Originally posted by Great Charade:
Right now I find myself caught in a cycle. I get up, water my crops, eat one meal, shake every tree, talk to every villager, go to bed. Am I doing something wrong? I will try and see if there are quests I can accomplish... I don't have trouble making taxes and I have lots of preserved foods... I just feel like I'm not making any progress.

At this point, I wish I had returned it. I met the witch and she felt incredibly mundane... she asked me to build a bridge... I get that it is a generational game, but it is so incredibly slow. I thought the relationship building would be more complex... I thought there would be more secrets and dark undertones... but there is none of that. So far the darkest undertone is that everyone is always one meal away from crippling hunger and nothing ever lasts. Do I have to grind for 50 hours to get anywhere interesting, or am I doing the whole game wrong?

This is all beside the fact that it feels incomplete. Several people have asked for boiled pudding, and I can't find cream for sale or find a way to make it from milk... The inventory system has no sorting or even an indicator (other than hovering over each item stack) to see when things will rot... it makes more sense to sell 3 wheat (9 coins each) and buy one bread (26 coins) than to use them to make flour and then get an egg to bake with so the economy is also confusing... and QUALITY of food doesn't seem to matter so why not just eat survival salad and preserved foods and sell all the rest?...

I'm just really disappointed and confused at the moment and hoping some die-hard fan can help turn my outlook around.


It depends on what you like to do in cozy and farming games like these and what "goals" you might decide to complete.
For example, are you interested in achievements?
Do you like decorating the exterior and interior of your home?
Do you like spending years in the game to see what your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren will be like and how the children and grandchildren of the NPCs in the village will become?
It also depends on the game mode you are playing (age activated or deactivated, diseases...).
An idea could be that you could take your time to obtain all the achievements etc.
From what I remember reading here in the next patches the Devs will add new things. Regarding the economy and the quality of things, you are right, many things make more sense to be bought instead of waiting to be able to produce them, cook them etc.
On the internet you can find Wheels with random events, one of them is called Echoes of Drama Wheel.

I hope I helped you a bit. :)

You've certainly given me food for thought. I came into the game wanting to uncover mysteries about the town, but there might have to be some other way to enjoy it for me.

I looked up the wheels... and honestly it seems pretty sad? Clearly people love the game so much, and it has so little substance, that they literally come up with random tasks for themselves to accomplish to feel like what they are doing matters.

I am playing with age on and part of the excitement for me was to see what would happen with future generations, but I'm only fifteen days in and losing steam so I don't know that I'll have the desire to play through a full life... let alone multiple full lives. I also understand that the town doesn't change with time...

I think I might go back to it now and then... but I equally might just stop and see if they changed it later on.

Originally posted by J-REDACTED:
Honestly I am wondering the same. I feel like Kynseed does anything they attempted to do better, and to a more detailed degree.

Have you fixed the bridge, and completed the pillars? I’m not sure if completing them provides anything- but let me know.

I also feel like the map is super tiny, there aren’t any secrets, not much to do beside grind points in various ways.
The Halloween festival was just a bunch of people standing around.
There isn’t much to do that I have seen; and I really am wondering what the developers have to say.
They alluded to being too busy with the game to provide controller support that works, so what all were they so busy with?

I haven't done the bridge yet... we will see. I actually bought Kynseed when it FIRST hit early access. I think I waited too long to play it and everything in the controls and interaction just felt... wrong. The last time I had checked it was STILL in development but I guess it has gone 1.0 since then. I might give it a shot.

THANK YOU BOTH :)
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Date Posted: Jun 5, 2024 @ 8:16am
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