Need Help

[Gr13vZ3l]

I am stuck now for a long time at 5-3 (Easy) and 5-1 (Medium)

Any Tips for me how to get past here?

[Zeustiak]

People would need some info, most important being your ascension level, but also other things that determine how strong you are.

The easy answer is that time gets you through all obstacles in games like this.

The hard answer is that you need to maximize every system in the game. Maximize item rating, reincarnation and class xp, etc, etc. Use the right combination of pets so that you have bonuses to every bonus category. Target whack, farming, and residue shop upgrades that seem like they would be good if you did reach them. Too many to really list without more information.

[Lowerdank xD]

run attack & hp expedition.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

The reason, why you dont get many and detailed answers is, that there are MANY ways to make you stronger and stronger.
Just try to get better in every category and reincarnate avery xx hours (more than 12 hours are not really recommended).
Make Ascensions as fast as possible.

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by eXeZ|Gamer433:

(more than 12 hours are not really recommended).

That's old news.

After a patch changed the formula to one that provides linear reincarnation bonus % even after 12 hours the current meta even changed into the total opposite.

Right now folks even wait for 1+ week before they reincarnate. Because that allows us to stack up all kinds of bonus % for a long time, and only add charges to the reincarnation exp% card later on when charges really hit hard.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

That's old news.

After a patch changed the formula to one that provides linear reincarnation bonus % even after 12 hours the current meta even changed into the total opposite.

Right now folks even wait for 1+ week before they reincarnate. Because that allows us to stack up all kinds of bonus % for a long time, and only add charges to the reincarnation exp% card later on when charges really hit hard.

Damn! When came this change? Im not that deep into discord and so on.
Dont get me wrong and no offend, but I have a life outside of FAPI.

[Silberfuchs]

Oof, good question.
This was changed a while back. Something like 2 months or so ago.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

Oof, good question.
This was changed a while back. Something like 2 months or so ago.

Okay, got it.
What is the ideal hours now between runs? 24? 48? 55,72? :D

[Zeustiak]

Yeah, what is the sweet spot?

I just checked my own progress:
11hrs / +282 / 25.6/hr
12hrs / +324 / 27/hr
13hrs / +339 / 26/hr

While the average doesn't show it, I only gained +15 from 12-13 hours, which would be a significant dropoff if that trend continues.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Zeustiak:

Yeah, what is the sweet spot?

I just checked my own progress:
11hrs / +282 / 25.6/hr
12hrs / +324 / 27/hr
13hrs / +339 / 26/hr

While the average doesn't show it, I only gained +15 from 12-13 hours, which would be a significant dropoff if that trend continues.

This shows, what I said before, but it was "old news": Every 12 hours ... -_-"

[Zeustiak]

Maybe it is ascension related? I am in A14, and the points-per-hour have dropped maybe ~5-10% more from my previous post.

I can't see any kind of bonuses building over time to turn this around, unless the bonuses allow me to take on higher stages. Been stuck n 6-9 for a couple months, and 7-1 still insta-wrecks me.

[Silberfuchs]

No matter what you do: the reincarnations LEVELS / hour numbers will always drop. Because the costs of each level increase around 2 times every 600 levels. That's why you can gain silly amounts of levels shortly after ascending, and why the last couple of levels before your next ascension are so slow.

If you want to compare something you have to compare the reincarnation exp gained / hour.

The actual exp multiiplier keeps going up in a line past hour 12 now, meanwhile the requirement for each reincarnation level only ever goes up, hence the slowdown that needs to be countered by buying into more reincarnation exp upgrades.

[eXeZ|Gamer433]

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

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Yah, but I still dont got any answer on my question.

Originally posted by eXeZ|Gamer433:

What is the ideal hours now between runs? 24? 48? 55,72? :D

[Silberfuchs]

Originally posted by eXeZ|Gamer433:

Originally posted by Silberfuchs:

[...]

Yah, but I still dont got any answer on my question.

Originally posted by eXeZ|Gamer433:

What is the ideal hours now between runs? 24? 48? 55,72? :D

Wrong, you did get your answer.
=> As long as possible, easy as that.

There are only two reasons to ever reincarnate now:
1) The increase in reincarnation levels provides a big bonus (those stats shown on the right side).
2) You are ready to ascend.

And since higher ascension level players will have to get silly high reincarnation levels point "1" has strong diminishing returns. Aka i don't need to care about increasing a bonus from lets say +100.000% to 110.000% if this comes at the cost of reincarnating "early".

Early in this context is easy to understand as well:
Plenty of numbers grow higher and higher the longer you stay in one reincarnation, and those numbers grow faster and stronger than those provided by reincarnating.

The prime example for this is the confection level bonus that is part of the reincarnation exp multipliers. The longer you wait, the higher this bonus gets, and vice versa (because if nothing else: the first two confection boni (attack and hp/regen) will always tick up and up over time.

This alone makes long duration runs more juice, and that's just one of the various reincarnation exp multipliers that love to go up over time.

As i said:
The only thing you lose out on are the bonus % gained from a higher reincarnation level. And those aren't that high to begin with if your reincarnation level in already rather high.