Neon White

Neon White

檢視統計資料:
MightyMidgit 2022 年 6 月 21 日 下午 9:50
Cheaters with zero-second times on Global Leaderboards.
I know this is a speedrunning game, but when people are using exploits/cheats to beat each mission in under a second, or even as impossibly low as 10 milliseconds, that kills the leaderboards. Finding a way to beat a mission in 9 seconds is great, but 10 milliseconds is downright hacking. These impossible times should be scrubbed, and the players should be banned from the leaderboards.
< >
目前顯示第 16-30 則留言,共 34
ToastMunchie 2022 年 6 月 24 日 上午 7:40 
引用自 supa
引用自 Cap'n Crazy
Seeing as just one cheater ruins the integrity of the entire board, *yes.*
What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it. And then there's wayyy more cheaters in your LIFE alone... The integrity is ruined huh.. better stop living I guess.

I mean...this game is based all around speedrunning and getting up on the leaderboards. The blatant cheaters only show that cheating is possible, who knows if the other fast times are legitimate.
Cap'n Crazy 2022 年 6 月 24 日 上午 9:32 
引用自 ToastMunchie
引用自 supa
What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it. And then there's wayyy more cheaters in your LIFE alone... The integrity is ruined huh.. better stop living I guess.

I mean...this game is based all around speedrunning and getting up on the leaderboards. The blatant cheaters only show that cheating is possible, who knows if the other fast times are legitimate.

>What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it.

Just because X is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ doesn't mean Y has to be as well. Whataboutism is a facile argument that does nothing to make your case.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whataboutism

>The blatant cheaters only show that cheating is possible, who knows if the other fast times are legitimate.

This is 100% the issue. It's never just one or two cheaters. It'll suck to have to use outside run verification, but if there's no other option, that's what the community will end up doing, and we can only hope that enough folks come along for the ride.
最後修改者:Cap'n Crazy; 2022 年 6 月 24 日 上午 9:33
Grape 2022 年 6 月 24 日 下午 12:11 
A 0.6 world record on Arcs really had me thinking lol
ToastMunchie 2022 年 6 月 24 日 下午 2:35 
引用自 Cap'n Crazy
引用自 ToastMunchie

I mean...this game is based all around speedrunning and getting up on the leaderboards. The blatant cheaters only show that cheating is possible, who knows if the other fast times are legitimate.

>What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it.

Just because X is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ doesn't mean Y has to be as well. Whataboutism is a facile argument that does nothing to make your case.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whataboutism

>The blatant cheaters only show that cheating is possible, who knows if the other fast times are legitimate.

This is 100% the issue. It's never just one or two cheaters. It'll suck to have to use outside run verification, but if there's no other option, that's what the community will end up doing, and we can only hope that enough folks come along for the ride.

Cyber Hook is one of my favorite games from this genre, and you can download a replay of any person on the leaderboard and watch their run of the level.

(Just realized your first point was to the person I was replying to, but I'll keep this up anyway because I do think it is an awesome feature for both speedrunning and anti-cheat.)
最後修改者:ToastMunchie; 2022 年 6 月 24 日 下午 2:35
PeePeePooPooMan 2022 年 6 月 24 日 下午 3:01 
引用自 Brandacus
I had the world record for Sweep, and it was taken away by legitimate players. After much grinding, I finally got it back, but then these users came in with a 0 and 1 second times respectively. Really annoyed by this.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/hazamanoctis

https://steamcommunity.com/id/murilopapini

And I thought i was just imagining things but finally saw them on GL in Shields 0:00.041 and 0:01.049 respectively
Ukatan Hunter 2022 年 6 月 25 日 下午 2:47 
Get all the user input, make it validated on server before you load the result onto the leaderboard, sort out the cheating and TAS trash. Come on, make the competition satisfying for all the top sweats.
cringe ass nae nae baby 2022 年 6 月 25 日 下午 9:52 
really cool of this game's devs to make an entire ghost recording system that saves out the ghosts to external files and then just. not use it to validate the leaderboards
ChunkyButternut 2022 年 6 月 26 日 上午 3:52 
I'm just happy when I'm in the top 2k. Those red medals are pretty slick. Looking at some of the times, not all of them are cheaters. But, I have seen some clever ones. Saw one that was perfectly 10.500, and about a second and a half quicker than anyone else. I'm just saying, it's not always so obvious as those 0.8 second cheaters.
Teodor 2022 年 6 月 26 日 上午 5:53 
cheaters are scum
Average Tenna Enjoyer 2022 年 10 月 26 日 下午 10:26 
i dont get the point of cheating in a game like this is the fun of the game not feeling the rush of getting a good score i mean really nobody thinks your cool for cheating they just look at you like the skilless turd you are still just got the game love this ♥♥♥♥ easily one of the top gaming experiences ive had this year to all legit players that read this have a bird hes loyal :byers:
T R A U M A S I M U L A T O R 2022 年 11 月 18 日 下午 2:16 
There was a game I used to play. Sonic and all-stars racing transformed. The leader boards are plagued with hackers. The community knew who was legitimate and who wasn't. Might wanna visit the forums, and the discord to see who's real and who's not.
darkly77 2023 年 1 月 4 日 下午 7:12 
Came here to voice my disappointment, seeing runs under 1 second. Would be great to see what the real top times are. For the final insight level, seeing a bunch of hacked runs in the global leaderboards isn't a great reward

What about an option to report players? Sure, it could be abused by scummy people but I would think that most of the time it would be used to report the scummy ones. Just make it based on a wide consensus, eg. if the same players keep getting reported by players across the world and at different times, then the time is probably not legitimate.

Or could also just compare it to the red medal score, like if it's 5sec under then it's unlikely, so potential ban

Impossible scores should be easy to ban, eg <1s means instant autoban, no 2nd chances, before they get the chance to find the sweet spot between hacking and the ban threshold

Or could use the ghost data. There's probably a way to use it to check for common hacker gameplay patterns, just store the ghost data on the server for a while until you can analyse it and figure things out (or maybe keep it so we can watch top tier players ghosts, which would be awesome and help community hack reporting)

Or could check the number of attempts and playtime. It probably takes quite a few tries to reach fastest times, so hackers are probably not putting in those hours and numbers of attempts, so flag the anomalies
最後修改者:darkly77; 2023 年 1 月 4 日 下午 9:35
Beldr 2023 年 1 月 20 日 上午 8:24 
引用自 darkly77
Came here to voice my disappointment, seeing runs under 1 second. Would be great to see what the real top times are. For the final insight level, seeing a bunch of hacked runs in the global leaderboards isn't a great reward

What about an option to report players? Sure, it could be abused by scummy people but I would think that most of the time it would be used to report the scummy ones. Just make it based on a wide consensus, eg. if the same players keep getting reported by players across the world and at different times, then the time is probably not legitimate.

Or could also just compare it to the red medal score, like if it's 5sec under then it's unlikely, so potential ban

Impossible scores should be easy to ban, eg <1s means instant autoban, no 2nd chances, before they get the chance to find the sweet spot between hacking and the ban threshold

Or could use the ghost data. There's probably a way to use it to check for common hacker gameplay patterns, just store the ghost data on the server for a while until you can analyse it and figure things out (or maybe keep it so we can watch top tier players ghosts, which would be awesome and help community hack reporting)

Or could check the number of attempts and playtime. It probably takes quite a few tries to reach fastest times, so hackers are probably not putting in those hours and numbers of attempts, so flag the anomalies
You CAN report someone on their steam profile, but nothing ingame as far as I know
Fake Gamer 2023 年 3 月 1 日 下午 10:44 
There's a mod called Neonlite that includes a community-run banlist. Banned users' times show up highlighted in red.
airsailor7656119809 2023 年 7 月 3 日 下午 9:48 
word. ruins the scoreboard feature
< >
目前顯示第 16-30 則留言,共 34
每頁顯示: 1530 50