Cheaters with zero-second times on Global Leaderboards.

[MightyMidgit]

I know this is a speedrunning game, but when people are using exploits/cheats to beat each mission in under a second, or even as impossibly low as 10 milliseconds, that kills the leaderboards. Finding a way to beat a mission in 9 seconds is great, but 10 milliseconds is downright hacking. These impossible times should be scrubbed, and the players should be banned from the leaderboards.

[crisp rat]

yup, just saw one on tangled - hanging gardens

[crisp rat]

steamcommunity.com/id/murilopapini
this guy on multiple stages has close to 0 seconds

[Brandacus]

I had the world record for Sweep, and it was taken away by legitimate players. After much grinding, I finally got it back, but then these users came in with a 0 and 1 second times respectively. Really annoyed by this.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/hazamanoctis

https://steamcommunity.com/id/murilopapini

[Bóber Kurwa]

Like one of my friends said "If there's competition, there's cheaters".
That's sad man

[MightyMidgit]

Originally posted by Brandacus:

I had the world record for Sweep, and it was taken away by legitimate players. After much grinding, I finally got it back, but then these users came in with a 0 and 1 second times respectively. Really annoyed by this.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/hazamanoctis

https://steamcommunity.com/id/murilopapini

Everyone needs to take a second and report these profiles for cheating. For a game with global speedrunning leaderboards, the devs need to police them and possibly add in methods to detect cheating and perma-ban the accounts that do.

[MightyMidgit]

Add a new cheater to the list to report:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198971410229

[Blue Candle]

Yeah this is why I don't bother with this kind of stuff, although maybe the dev or a fan can set up a speedrunning website or have a category on an existing one for Neon White to make it harder to cheat.

[A Remote That Controls What]

the best solution is implementing two specific things:
1. an anti-splicing measure like Cluster Truck's strange rotating cursor
2. an external website - possibly just a page on speedrun or SDA - where users must have their runs validated before they are added to in-game leader boards, like the Shovel Knight Any% WR recorded in its credits, but on a larger scale.

[Supa]

Originally posted by Blue Candle:

Yeah this is why I don't bother with this kind of stuff, although maybe the dev or a fan can set up a speedrunning website or have a category on an existing one for Neon White to make it harder to cheat.

So out of 50000 people one is cheater and that prevents you from competing with the rest? weird

[Blue Candle]

Originally posted by supa:

Originally posted by Blue Candle:

Yeah this is why I don't bother with this kind of stuff, although maybe the dev or a fan can set up a speedrunning website or have a category on an existing one for Neon White to make it harder to cheat.

So out of 50000 people one is cheater and that prevents you from competing with the rest? weird

Yes

[Cap'n Crazy]

Originally posted by supa:

Originally posted by Blue Candle:

Yeah this is why I don't bother with this kind of stuff, although maybe the dev or a fan can set up a speedrunning website or have a category on an existing one for Neon White to make it harder to cheat.

So out of 50000 people one is cheater and that prevents you from competing with the rest? weird

Seeing as just one cheater ruins the integrity of the entire board, *yes.*

[ayden.exe]

Its so annoying, just one ruins everything as the seed of doubt is permanently sewn unless the cheaters are removed, its the one major problem of this great game

[Anamoni]

Originally posted by supa:

Originally posted by Blue Candle:

Yeah this is why I don't bother with this kind of stuff, although maybe the dev or a fan can set up a speedrunning website or have a category on an existing one for Neon White to make it harder to cheat.

So out of 50000 people one is cheater and that prevents you from competing with the rest? weird

It's important to remember that just because some people who cheat are very obvious about it (.03 second time on a 25 second devtime level for example) its very easy to game the system and cheat while making it LOOK like you have a legitimate time.

I think it was Sonic Generations that had a leaderboard for best times and every single one would have 4-5 people that would all regularly update to to be .01 seconds faster than whoever was currently in first.

[Supa]

Originally posted by Cap'n Crazy:

Originally posted by supa:

So out of 50000 people one is cheater and that prevents you from competing with the rest? weird

Seeing as just one cheater ruins the integrity of the entire board, *yes.*

What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it. And then there's wayyy more cheaters in your LIFE alone... The integrity is ruined huh.. better stop living I guess.

[Blue Candle]

Originally posted by supa:

Originally posted by Cap'n Crazy:

Seeing as just one cheater ruins the integrity of the entire board, *yes.*

What other games do you play? There's probably more cheaters in them but you just don't know about it. And then there's wayyy more cheaters in your LIFE alone... The integrity is ruined huh.. better stop living I guess.

Yes