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Does this game have a third person view mode?
The game looks really interesting but I get motion sickness in first person view. Does this game have both modes?
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Liz-with-a-Smile Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:47am 
That would be a nice option.
I love games that allow you to choose how you engage with them.
Floid Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
Third person would be great +1 :steamthumbsup:
Carlz0r Dec 13, 2022 @ 5:14am 
There is not. And while it might be nice for some, understand that it's a lot more work than you might think to do it right. Most first-person games don't fully model the player character when in gameplay, so it isn't as simple as checking a box that allows you to have a different camera.

A good example would be GTA V.. even with a huge team and a AAA budget, first-person mode was not in the initial release, only the 'next gen' re-release, and the PC version, because it was a lot of work to make it actually feel good to play. The player movement, animation, shooting, and driving systems all had to be completely re-built from the ground up so it didn't feel janky and clumsy to play like it would if they simply gave an option to shove the camera inside the player character's head.

Another example would be Cyberpunk 2077, where a bug would sometimes cause the character model to remain twisted and distorted into the shape it had to be to 'make sense' to the first person viewpoint, when viewed in third-person during animations and stuff. It's tricky business.

A studio this size may not have the time, money, or resources to implement both modes and make them both feel good.
Last edited by Carlz0r; Dec 13, 2022 @ 5:17am
Floid Dec 13, 2022 @ 9:03am 
Well as long as it has a FOV slider, then we should be good.
Sister of Silence Dec 13, 2022 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Carlz0r:
There is not. And while it might be nice for some, understand that it's a lot more work than you might think to do it right. Most first-person games don't fully model the player character when in gameplay, so it isn't as simple as checking a box that allows you to have a different camera.

A good example would be GTA V.. even with a huge team and a AAA budget, first-person mode was not in the initial release, only the 'next gen' re-release, and the PC version, because it was a lot of work to make it actually feel good to play. The player movement, animation, shooting, and driving systems all had to be completely re-built from the ground up so it didn't feel janky and clumsy to play like it would if they simply gave an option to shove the camera inside the player character's head.

Another example would be Cyberpunk 2077, where a bug would sometimes cause the character model to remain twisted and distorted into the shape it had to be to 'make sense' to the first person viewpoint, when viewed in third-person during animations and stuff. It's tricky business.

A studio this size may not have the time, money, or resources to implement both modes and make them both feel good.
So we can't ask? Also borderlands 1-3 had only 1st person view and that was modded in. Apparantly it wasn't all that much work.
SexyPanther Dec 13, 2022 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Sister of Silence:
So we can't ask? Also borderlands 1-3 had only 1st person view and that was modded in. Apparantly it wasn't all that much work.

The Borderland games were designed with co-op in mind (at least 2-3 were... can't recall the first one..), so player models would already have been created and animated to be seen. For a non-multiplayer/co-op first-person game to add third-person view could, depending on the development tools, aim, and scope, be a substantial undertaking. There are exceptions I'm sure. I would think that any modern game where there is vehicle sections might consider adding an optional switch between first and third-person view. For non-vehicle games though, I think it depends more on the engine, tools, and how the systems were implemented.
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Carlz0r Dec 14, 2022 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Sister of Silence:
So we can't ask? Also borderlands 1-3 had only 1st person view and that was modded in. Apparantly it wasn't all that much work.
Literally nothing about what I said indicates that you can't ask. I'm just explaining that it's a lot of work, so the answer would likely be that it won't happen.

And like the other person said about Borderlands, it's build from the ground-up as a co-op game, so there was already plenty of work done to make it so players can be seen from another perspective during gameplay, because it's integral to the game. That would make it significantly easier to mod such a thing.
Elena Dec 24, 2022 @ 1:23am 
Originally posted by Floid:
Well as long as it has a FOV slider, then we should be good.
Well, does it? I could live with that
Aurailis Dec 24, 2022 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Elena:
Originally posted by Floid:
Well as long as it has a FOV slider, then we should be good.
Well, does it? I could live with that

It does
Elena Dec 24, 2022 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by Aurailis:
Originally posted by Elena:
Well, does it? I could live with that

It does
Thank you!
Hollcome Jan 18, 2023 @ 10:06pm 
What will we be able to accomplish with the FOV slider? Will the camera reflect the way humans see in real life? It drives me crazy that my character's never have peripheral vision in the first person, lol.
rjdriver Jan 23, 2023 @ 4:26am 
I prefer first person view, but the one thing that does make me nauseous sometimes in FP games is head bobbing. In case that's part of your issue, this game has a setting to turn it off.
Last edited by rjdriver; Jan 23, 2023 @ 4:26am
Sister of Silence Jan 23, 2023 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by rjdriver:
I prefer first person view, but the one thing that does make me nauseous sometimes in FP games is head bobbing. In case that's part of your issue, this game has a setting to turn it off.
Head bobbing means sick within two minutes but first person view still makes me sick within 20 minutes even when there is no head bobbing.
abuster Mar 7, 2023 @ 8:25am 
third person and I would buy.
Svâstîkus Mar 7, 2023 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by abuster:
third person and I would buy.
Possibly for me as well, I honestly can't stand first person games anymore, With one exception I'm looking forward to and that's Witchfire.
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