Steam, please update IL-2 1946 to offical release v4.13.4

[PatientLandBeaver]

While I only play with a fully modded IL-2 1946 that requires v4.12.2, I feel that Steam should update IL-2 1946 to the latest offical patch, currently v4.13.4. There are a number of reasons for this.

The gamers who mod IL-2 1946 already know how to downgrade back to v4.12.2 to be mod compatible, where as the average gamer who buys this on Steam will be unaware of the additional offical patches, fully expecting the Steam version to be the current version, as is pretty much the case with every other game available on Steam.

The developer, Team Daidalos, spent a lot of extra time providing support for their game long after release, something they didn't have to do. It seems like a huge disservice to them for Steam to NOT provide the latest offical updates.

Currently Steam users have to go to a third party website and download the 4 remaining offical patches individually (along with the 4.13.1 supplemental campaigns, missions and skins) in order to get up to the current version 4.13.4. Why should someone who bought the game on Steam have to go through the trouble of patching it themselves? This of course doesn't make any sense.

For those who are looking for the official patches;
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31667
or
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=605

[PatientLandBeaver]

Now for reference, here is a complete list of all the improvements, addtions and fixes from the official patches, v4.13.0 to 4.13.4, that the Steam version of IL-2 1946 is missing. It's quite extensive....

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On behalf of 1C:Maddox Games and Daidalos Team, we are pleased to present you the following offical patch notes;

New Maps
- New Britain & New Guinea (September 1943)
- New Britain & New Guinea (June 1944)
- Svalbard
- Tobruk
- Slovakia Autumn (Late autumn season. For proper look, it is recommended to set parameter Forest=3 in the conf.ini file under the [OpenGL] section.)
- Black Sea (combined map, includes Crimea and Kuban territory).

New Planes (AI only)
- He-177 A-3
- Aichi E13A floatplane

New flyable planes (include new added cockpits)
- B-24D-140-CO + external
- IK-3
- N1K1-J
- N1K1-Ja
- N1K1-Jb
- SB 2M-103
- R-5, 1931г (with 1934 model cockpit);
- P-5, 1931г (trainer based on R-5);
- S.S.S ("Three S"), 1936г;
- He-111H-11, 1942г;
- He-111H-16, 1943г;
- I-16 type 28, 1939г;
- I-16 type 29, 1940г;
- I-153 M63, 1940г (with M-63 engine);
- Bf.110C-4, 1940.
- Bf.110C-4/B, 1940.
- Bf.110D-1, 1940.
- Bf.110E-2, 1941.
- Bf.110F-2, 1942.
- SB-2M103 (96 series), 1938.
- SB 2M-103A (221 series), 1940.
- U-2, 1933.
- U-2VS, 1936.
- U-2(LNB), 1942.

New plane external models
- P-40E
- P-40E M-105 field mod.
- P-40M

Improved cockpits:
- I-15bis;
- I-16 type 24;
- I-16 type 24SPB;
- I-153 M62;
- I-153P;
- Pe-2 (added complete radio operator cockpit).
- He-111H-2, He-111H-6, He-111H-12 (cockpit interior update).
- He-111H-6 (added one more gunner post at ventral gondola).
- Bf.110G-2, 1943

New ground units:
- Total rework of all railway cars 3D-models.
- Armored train BP-42 (Germany).
- Armored train BP-44 (Germany).
- Armored train OB-3 (USSR).
- Armored train NKPS-42 (USSR).
- Tank T-26 model 1931г. (Twin turrets).
- Update camo for T-26(late) tank.
- Tank BT-5.
- Tank BT-5RT (BT-5 command tank with radio).
- Update tank BT-7 3D-model.
- Tank BT-7A (with short-barreled 76mm cannon).
- Tank BT-7RT (BT-7 command tank with radio).
- Rework tank KV-1 3D-model.
- Tank KV-1S.
- Tank KV-2.
- Tank Vickers Mk.Е Mod.F (Finnish).
- Tank destroyer SU-152.
- Armored car BA-20.
- Update armored car BA-10 3D-model.
- Rework armored car BA-64 3D-model.
- Mortar BM-82, model 1937 (1942 production).
- Rework Sd.Kfz.184 "Ferdinand" 3D-model.
- Update camo for T-34 tank.
- 2cm Flak 38 Vierling
- Skoda Pa.II 'Zalva' armored car (MG and radio version)
- Jagdtiger
- M10 tank destroyer: early and late (late comes with closed and opened hatch)
- M36 tank destroyer with closed an opened hatch
- 2cm Flak 38 Vierling
- Type 94 tankette (Japanese)
- US AA trailer (quad cal50)
- Regimental Gun 76mm
- ATG 45 mm (1942)
- Medium tank T-34 1943 model. (USSR)
- Self-propelled gun SU-122 (USSR).
- Medium tank S35 (France)
- Heavy tank B-1bis (France).
- Heavy infantry tank "Churchill" Mk.VII (UK)
- Light tank Pz.I Ausf.B. (Germany)
- Command and staff tank KI.Pz.Bf.Wg. (Sd.Kfz.265) (Germany).
- Captured medium tank Pz.Kpfw.T34 740 (r) (Germany)
- Captured medium tank Pz.Kpfw.35S 739 (f) (Germany)
- Captured heavy tank Pz.Kpfw.B2 740 (f) (Germany)

New Ships:
- Torpedo boat D-3 (USSR)

New Features
- Total overhaul of most bombsights.
- Added new 'realistic bombing' difficulty option to toggle between realistic/simplified bombsight inputs
- Bomb release mode keys added
- New bombardier & co-pilot position that can be manned in online coops
- Added momentum from asymmetric bomb loadouts
- Rocket release mode key added
- Course autopilot added to Luftwaffe planes
- Added working PDI lights (red, green white) to many Russian bomber pits
- Ordinance camera added
- Added target height to minimap ground targets
- Added gunner's multifunction key. Used for opening hatches, canopies, raising & lowering guns.
- Added gunner reloading if gun has clips
- FMB showing proper skin of ground objects depending on the World.camouflage
- Added FMB scrolling between different units in object windows for chiefs
- Added bombardier cockpits for all Pe-2 variants
- Added QMB option for player to chose his position in the flight
- New IJA/IJN regiments from Juri JS
- New USN/USMC regiments from Motorhead
- Added Icon settings to GUI Misc
- Added option that Icon range can be shown in meters or feets
- New SM.79 default skins by Italo
- Added differential brakes
- Added over 100 new loadouts for russian planes including RRAB cluster bombs and flares
- Bomb loadouts added to Doras
- New 3D meshes for some British bombs
- Added new conf.ini option Use3RendersUI=1 that will render UI with 1/3 width.
- Locomotives valve gear and other chassis animation.
- Turning on lights on locomotives at night.
- Updated Norden and Lotfe-7C bombsights, reduced TAS switching step.
- Added key for switching ballistic tables then using bombsights.
- New regiments and insignias (over 900).
- New soviet bombs AO-8M3, RRAB-520.
- Added "conf.ini" option Mouse6DOFMove=1 under [game]. This will enable automatic offset to sideboards then player looks back using mouse.
- Fighting ground vehicles and combat ships can use salvo firing with all available barrels.

Changes, Improvements, Fixes and Tweaks
- Fixed wheel brakes working, with keyboard operation - balance between left and right wheel brakes considered with rudder position.
- Fixed damage model and made some minor cockpit changes for SM.79.
- Fixed errors that displayed incorrect operation altitude for parachute armaments and SABs in Dedicated Server mod.
- Full rework of bomb loadout variants for R-5 (for historic ones only). Old missions may be incompatible with new loads.
- Increase of bomb loadout variants of He-111H-6 (for historic ones only). Old missions are still compatible.
- Sliding canopy of dorsal gunner in He-111H-2/He-111H-6 variants, thus increasing their firing angles.
- Fixed (blocked) opportunity to remove marker symbol in the "Misc.settings", under "Markers", which may cause the game to fail to run.
- New default camo for all LaGG-3 planes.
- New camo for P-39N-1 Pokryshkin plane.
- Fixed network bug, with incorrect turret position transmitted to other players.
- Fixed network (and NTRK) bug, with incorrect player position in cockpits (for co-pilots crew planes).
- Fixed error "ID_10" occurred sometimes while Dedicater Server mission was loading.
- Fixed error in output of drift angle, on the B5N bombsight.
- Updated 3D-model of AO-10 bomb.
- Added new loadouts for I-153 M-62 plane, includes BS machinegun (based on historical photos).
- Some fixes on Solomons map.
- All missing bridges added on Slovakia autumn map.
- Added new damage model for "Periscope" objects – now it is possible to hit submerged submarines along the full length of the hull.
- Some fixes for "DShK machinegun" objects.
- Fixed self-propelled heavy mortar "Karl". From now on it has really high-angle barrel elevation with correct firing distance and realistic shell types.
- Some fixes in COOP (but multicrew mod is still experimental and a little bit buggy).
- Fixed user console and server log spamming errors from parachute armaments and SABs.
- Fixed prop rotation direction of the N1K1J, N1K1Ja, N1K1Jb.
- Fixed prop rotation direction of the P-40E(M-105PF).
- Fixed cannons ATG38_45mm, ATG42_45mm, RG43_76mm.
- Fixed 3D-model of armored car FAI-M.
- Activated AAA position on the turret of battleship "Tirpitz".
- Activated AAA positions on the turrets of battleships "King George V" class.
- Activated inner turrets of battleship "Marat", and they can fire in both port and starboard directions.
- All appropriate ships can fire from torpedo-tubes on both sides (mostly for destroyers).
- Changed 3D-model and technical data for destroyer torpedoes from default noname to 533-mm model 53-38.
- Added correct sounds for armored rail-cruiser MBV №002.
- Fixed (corrected) sounds of moving rolling stock.
- Stationary railway cars have winter PaintSchemes.
- Some trains have new antiaircraft platform position – it is transferred to the head or tail of a rolling stock.
- Added new locomotive steam effects: additional steam emissions in the beginning of movement and before the stop.
- Fixed number of single bomb releases for the Ju-88 to a total of 24. Also fixed some errors with bombsight automation (denial of bomb release for some loadout types).
- Fixed armament of the T-28 and T-35 tanks.
- Added/changed Customization.ini files for S.S.S., I-15bis, I-153, and new types I-16.
- Fixed default desert camo for B-24. Increased camo list.
- Corrected bombing equipment hard points on the P-40.
- Corrected shape of radio operator entrance hatch for the external 3D-model of Pe-2 ser.359.
- Changed cockpit lights inside the SB-2 M-100A and SB-2 M-103.
- Changed damage level for controls for all Il-2 planes.
- Added damage model for "American tractor" stationary object.
- Added stationary plane YaK-7B(M-105PF).
- Fixed speed indicator accuracy for P-38. Speed indicator output now shown in mph as indicated on cockpit gauge instead of KIAS (Knots-Indicated Air Speed).
- And some more minor fixes and corrections
- Changes in FM SB2 family aircraft. (SB-2M103 (96 series), SB 2M-103 (201 series), 1939, SB 2M-103A (221 series), 1940. added VISH22)
- SB-2M100A renamed to SB-2M100A (41-series). also removed the external bomb racks.
- SB-2M103 renamed to SB-2M103 (201 series). with changed engine cowlings.
- Added three new types of cluster bombs for KMB downloads (Cassettes bomblets) with the support of ballistic tables.
- Changes in FM Bf.110 family aircraft
- For Bf.110G-2 in the variant armament with the 37mm cannon armament BK37, ammunition shells changed to 66 (previously 72).
- For Bf.110G-2 in the variant armament with 30mm cannons MK108, ammunition left cannon shells changed to 120 (previously 135).
- For Bf.110G-2 added to the experimental and limited-edition variants weapons.
- Rockets Wfr.Gr.21 reduced damage radius.
- Changes in FM U-2VS.
- Replacing defensive weapons on the plane U-2VS. was UBS mg, now corrected to the mg DA.
- Fixed an issue where it was impossible to destroy Japan 25mm/60 Type 96 Model 1 Machine Gun Double Barrel
- U-2VS now have new external 3D model and the new skin is not compatible with the old.
- Correction scale reticle in the sight OPB-1, OPB-2 and Type90MkI.
- Changed the range of viewing angles with zoom sight OPB-1, OPB-2 and Type90MkI.
- Correction zoom work in the appointment of the mouse wheel.
- Fixed incorrect angle of drift bombsight on planes Ju-88.
- Fixed an accounting change of drag when you reset the gondola with 75mm gun on the plane Ju-88P1.
- Fixed output messages sight OPB-2 and Type90Mk1 in HUD-messages disable mode.
- Fixed output reports rotation angle of the torpedo sight on B5N2 plane in HUD-messages disable mode.
- Japanese bombsight Type90Mk1 value of speed input into the sight is made in the knots. Information in TAB menu show rate in knots for Type90Mk1 too.
- I-16type29 now correctly displayed markings in FMB.
- Correction scoring for tanks and multi-engine airplanes.
- On the P-40M was added Finnish tactical number.
- Fixed error with destroyed aircraft carriers .
- Fixed doubling number of dropped parachutists (on aircraft with load parachutists) in NTRK track and in the online game .
- Custom skins BMP format now supports 24-bit color format. Special Thanks to Mike from SAS aka Storebor.
- New default skins for I-15bis, I-153M62, I-153M63, I-153P, I-16type5, I-16type6, I-16type18, I-16type24, I-16type28, I-16type29, La-5, La-5F, La-5FN, La-7, La-7(3хB-20), Mig-3, Mig-3ud, SB-2M103 (96 series), SB 2M-103 (201 series), 1939, SB 2M-103A (221 series)
- Corrections to the 24-bit user skins support function, which was the reason for crashes, freezes and game errors in some cases (especially in the online game).
- Added difficulty option "Support for 24-bit skins (Beta)" in the "Misc" section. Now the player has the option to choose whether to use the new skin format or not. Also this difficulty option is effective in online mode, so server administrators can set this option in case of necessity.
- All the 24-bit skins added in the 4.13.3 patch are converted to the old format. Skins in the new 24-bit format can be added by the user, at his/her own discretion.
- For the U-2 family aircraft, corrected flight model regarding the previous sharp roll’n-stall behavior after performing a single underwing container drop.
- Correction for some default mission files, because of the new/updated weapons list used in related aircraft.
- Fixed the old (incorrect) method of external fuel tanks weight calculation during flight.
- Fix for the "FM" bug that can cause wingless plane to fly normally
- Fixed FM bug that caused two separate flights crash after certain plane was removed from formation
- Fixed bug with engines that caused RPMs to increase rapidly when engine selections were changed
- Fixed IL-4 engine DM bug that would cause left engine damage when right engine was shot
- Fixed very old online bug that caused wrong visual animation of engine states (with 2 or more engines)
- Fixed bomb delay bug. Old style delay (without fuzes) was not staying on UI
- Engine DM fixes for Spit, P-51, P-47 & P-40. Added missing bullet energy reductions and tweaked damage probabilities
- New Ho-3 cannon belting
- Fix for AI taxing takeoff bug in coop
- Engine DM fix so that pilot doesn't get BBQed if engine is behind pilot
- Increased minimum alive time of many MG & cannon rounds
- Fixed player taxing bug with autopilot
- Fixed NTRK & bomb bay door bug that caused doors to randomly close during playback
- Fixed beacon selection bug
- Added missing Emily nose cap
- Fixed Ki-43 nav lights
- Fixed B5N FM bug that caused AI to fail torpedo run if waypoints were set too high
- Adjusted the negative G limit when redout is starting to happen
- Removed old bomb explosion randomization that might leave unit close to explosion alive and kill another unit much further from explosion
- Updated Coral Sea QMB missions from wheelsup_cavu
- Fixed record in mission log about destroy winter models of mortar BM-82
- Fixed a record company of the KV-1S tank
- Fixed an error in the title character of a large number of regiments
- Fixed armored car PaII
- Change of ammunition for cannons Pak35 and Type94_37mm_JA: 37mm guns were wrong 76mm shells.
- Fix animations Ki-45 aircraft artificial horizon
- Fix t Japanese antiaircraft gun Japan 25mm / 60 Type 96 Model 1 Machine Gun Double Barrel
- Correction of the animation of the "bubble" level in the sight OPB-1 (IL-4, Pe-2, SB-2, R-5, CCC)
- Correction of synchronization equipment damage in the cockpit and navigator arrow aircraft R-5 and CCC
- Correction of aircraft cockpit CCC: Removed gun PV-1
- Correction animation turn and bank indicator in the cockpits of the R-5, P-5, CCC, I-16
- Fixed armament options on the R-5: (invisible wing machine guns disable)
- Change loadouts variant for R-5 and R-5 (Skis) added 2 loadouts with SABs. To improve compatibility with the patch 4.13RC04
- Added output to the log for more information about bots to dedicated server mode
- Fixes for distance visibility of certain elements of the external model aircraft He-111H6, He-111H11, He-111H12, He-111H16
- Corrections in the localization files for an international version of the game

Description of values in Customization.ini:
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Plane S.S.S.
- [WheelSpatsHide] key - Hide wheel pants.

Plane I-153 M62
- [Show_EarlyProp] key - turns on early type spinner.
- [Show_Antenna] key - turns on external radio equipment elements.
- [Hide_Radiator] key - turns off movable cooling shutters (cooler operation disabled). This modification is used on Kuban at 1942.
- [Hide_WheelCover] key - turns off small landing gear doors. This modification is used on unprepared airfields at the spring mud.

Plane I-153 M63
- [Show_Antenna] key - turns on external radio equipment elements.
- [Hide_Radiator] key - turns off movable cooling shutters (cooler operation disabled). This modification is used on Kuban at 1942.
- [Hide_WheelCover] key - turns off small landing gear doors. This modification is used on unprepared airfields at the spring mud.

Planes I-16 types 24, 28, 29
- [MissingWheelCovers] key - turns off small landing gear doors. This modification is used on unprepared airfields at the spring mud.

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Daidalos Team would like to thank our beta testers and users for reporting annoying bugs.

Thanks a lot also to anyone, we may have forgotten!

2017 1С. All Rights Reserved.
2017 1C:Maddox Games. All Rights Reserved.
2017 Daidalos Team. All Rights Reserved.

[dedogist]

I kind of agree, but i wish they'd do a GOG think where they let there be like, a beta branch. That way you could choose to get the most popular version (4.12.2m) or the latest (4.13.4m) before DLing.

This would be a dream come true for someone like me who has like 4 installs becasue they want to switch between the more heavily moddable early version and the newer version.

[Maki Nishikino]

If this happens then everyone who is using mods at the moment is going to have broken games. So the options are to just leave it as it is and those who don't install mods would not bat an eye that a newer patch exists or screw over a bunch of people that have mods installed that will break their game. The two major mods right now (BAT and VP) are stupid simple to install and offer so much to the game. There is really no reason to play the vanilla version of this game unless it's for MP which is pretty dead.

[dedogist]

Yeah exactly. Like I said, if they made the beta option 4.13.4 that'd be awesome

[PatientLandBeaver]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

If this happens then everyone who is using mods at the moment is going to have broken games. So the options are to just leave it as it is and those who don't install mods would not bat an eye that a newer patch exists or screw over a bunch of people that have mods installed that will break their game. The two major mods right now (BAT and VP) are stupid simple to install and offer so much to the game. There is really no reason to play the vanilla version of this game unless it's for MP which is pretty dead.

This is completely false. People who use mods for this game know better than to use the default IL2 1946 Steam folder. If you're not using a separate folder for your modded IL-2 1946 game then you're doing it wrong. Regardless, it's not that hard to roll back the 4.13.4 game to 4.12.2, the instructions are at the same website that hosts the mods.

I would bet the majority of people buying and playing IL-2 1946 through Steam aren't using mods and just want the most current version of the game to play (as we all do when buying a game through Steam). Steam could easily add the option to download the 4.12.2 version in the beta tab.

Until then I recommend people just buy the game through GOG, at least they have the proper 'up to date version' as well as the older version too.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by PatientLandBeaver:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

If this happens then everyone who is using mods at the moment is going to have broken games. So the options are to just leave it as it is and those who don't install mods would not bat an eye that a newer patch exists or screw over a bunch of people that have mods installed that will break their game. The two major mods right now (BAT and VP) are stupid simple to install and offer so much to the game. There is really no reason to play the vanilla version of this game unless it's for MP which is pretty dead.

This is completely false. People who use mods for this game know better than to use the default IL2 1946 Steam folder. If you're not using a separate folder for your modded IL-2 1946 game then you're doing it wrong. Regardless, it's not that hard to roll back the 4.13.4 game to 4.12.2, the instructions are at the same website that hosts the mods.

I would bet the majority of people buying and playing IL-2 1946 through Steam aren't using mods and just want the most current version of the game to play (as we all do when buying a game through Steam). Steam could easily add the option to download the 4.12.2 version in the beta tab.

Until then I recommend people just buy the game through GOG, at least they have the proper 'up to date version' as well as the older version too.

It's not hard to roll back? It screws up your game if modded. Let's not beat around the bush here, many don't use a separate folder for a modded version of the game as it's a waste of space. If you have a modded game you can play the vanilla game using the IL-2 selector from SAS. Literally no reason for a vanilla game folder.

Those who buy this game these days buy it for mods, otherwise they play the new IL-2 or War Thunder. As stupid as it may sound it's not worth updating the game to the latest version on Steam, it would cause more harm than good. Like I said, nobody bats an eye that there is an updated version but if it was patched into the main branch of the game people will be upset because of broken modded games.

I have no problem with the updated version of the game being in the beta branch.

[dedogist]

>Those who buy this game these days buy it for mods, otherwise they play the new IL-2 or War Thunder.

I agree with Maki to a degree here. I think 4.12.2m will remain the most popular version simply becasue of the modding scene. It's much harder to mod 4.13.4 at the moment, and not many people besides the Russians actually do it anyway.

I think people buying it on steam who are older players that havent played in years, or people that are just getting into it from videos on YT (which are mostly of modded installs), then it would be frustraiting for them to HAVE to roll back before they even start modding, when they could have just had the right version for a popular mod like VP or HSFX or BAT in the first place.

I'd rather have to patch UP than roll back.

[Ushkyr]

just to comment - a modded 4.13.4 online from il2org.ru, where I play
https://youtu.be/MtZZBZJPXiw

[PatientLandBeaver]

I guess in a perfect world BAT and VP modpacks would get updated to work with 4.13.4. What are the chances of that happening? :/

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by PatientLandBeaver:

I guess in a perfect world BAT and VP modpacks would get updated to work with 4.13.4. What are the chances of that happening? :/

Some of these listed in the patch notes are included in BAT because they're compatible.

[dedogist]

Yes, the Russian community is more geared towards modding the latest version, and Global Mod for Front Skies is a great VP-inspired mod for 4.13.4

[PatientLandBeaver]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Let's not beat around the bush here, many don't use a separate folder for a modded version of the game as it's a waste of space.

I disagree. The vanilla install of Il-2 1946 v4.12.2 only takes 6 GB. That directory is then moved out of Steam and placed somewhere else which is then used as your modded Il-2. It doesn't take up any extra space because you don't need the original IL-2 installed within Steam to run the game. This is why Steam only shows that I have 8 hrs of play time, simply because I'm playing the game outside of Steam. And gamers using an IL-2 modpack are generally not worried about disk space; the VP Modpack takes up around 45 GB and a full BAT install takes over 85 GB with all patches installed. And that doesn't include the additional 15-70 GB of installation files that most keep somwhere separately in case a modpack needs to be reinstalled :)

Anyway, as mentioned before, Steam could offer the latest version v4.13.4 just like GOG, and just as easily offer v4.12.2 under the beta tab with a sticky telling mod users how to access it.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by PatientLandBeaver:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Let's not beat around the bush here, many don't use a separate folder for a modded version of the game as it's a waste of space.

I disagree. The vanilla install of Il-2 1946 v4.12.2 only takes 6 GB. That directory is then moved out of Steam and placed somewhere else which is then used as your modded Il-2. It doesn't take up any extra space because you don't need the original IL-2 installed within Steam to run the game. This is why Steam only shows that I have 8 hrs of play time, simply because I'm playing the game outside of Steam. And gamers using an IL-2 modpack are generally not worried about disk space; the VP Modpack takes up around 45 GB and a full BAT install takes over 85 GB with all patches installed. And that doesn't include the additional 15-70 GB of installation files that most keep somwhere separately in case a modpack needs to be reinstalled :)

Anyway, as mentioned before, Steam could offer the latest version v4.13.4 just like GOG, and just as easily offer v4.12.2 under the beta tab with a sticky telling mod users how to access it.

As I said there is no need for a vanilla game folder as the IL-2 selector allows you to play the vanilla game. What is the point in having a vanilla game folder if I can use the selector in my modded install of the game and choose to run the vanilla game?

[PatientLandBeaver]

The point is, keeping your IL-2 directory outside of Steam ensures that if there ever is an update, it won't impact your mods. This is also the method the admins at the mod sites recommend.

It seems you're unfamiliar with the 'v4.13.x unpatcher' so here's the link if you ever need it.

It super easy to use and literally takes 1 second for it to work, bringing your game back to v.4.12.2 in no time at all.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,55464.0.html

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by PatientLandBeaver:

The point is, keeping your IL-2 directory outside of Steam ensures that if there ever is an update, it won't impact your mods. This is also the method the admins at the mod sites recommend.

It seems you're unfamiliar with the 'v4.13.x unpatcher' so here's the link if you ever need it.

It super easy to use and literally takes 1 second for it to work, bringing your game back to v.4.12.2 in no time at all.

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,55464.0.html

If this will fix a broken modded game if the most recent patch is applied on Steam then I am all for it.