Paragon: The Overprime

Paragon: The Overprime

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Llama 11 DIC 2022 a las 10:31 p. m.
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This Game is Far Better Than Predecessor
I don't understand how this game has mixed reviews and pred has positive reviews.

It is an absolute night and day difference, this game is significantly better. The UI is a very very clear example of Paragon dominating.

What an absolute travesty in user reviews, at least the player counts tell a bit of a story.
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HypeR 12 DIC 2022 a las 8:06 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Llama:
I don't understand how this game has mixed reviews and pred has positive reviews.

It is an absolute night and day difference, this game is significantly better. The UI is a very very clear example of Paragon dominating.

What an absolute travesty in user reviews, at least the player counts tell a bit of a story.
well said exactly
TDU 15 DIC 2022 a las 9:54 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Llama:
I don't understand how this game has mixed reviews and pred has positive reviews.

It is an absolute night and day difference, this game is significantly better. The UI is a very very clear example of Paragon dominating.

What an absolute travesty in user reviews, at least the player counts tell a bit of a story.
just you and few other think like that :D others love pred more like i do
Satyr 15 DIC 2022 a las 10:06 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Llama:
It is an absolute night and day difference, this game is significantly better. The UI is a very very clear example of Paragon dominating.

You are right, it is a night and day difference. Overprime runs like ♥♥♥♥, is designed to play like a hero brawler which is counter intuitive to all of its otherwise Traditional MOBA features, has voice acting that sounds like its out of a canceled toonami dub or an Oney cartoon, and has a clear focus on form over functon in one of the most important stages of development.

The real travesty is the sheer amount of copium some OP players are inhaling to fight a forum battle 90% of both communities dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about. Really shows that if you put enough icing on a ♥♥♥♥ pie, someone out there will eat it and love it.

Is OP a fun little hero brawler to pass the time? Sure. Is it better in any way in terms of functional design over Predecessor? No, and anyone capable of being objective about the two games can see that pretty clearly. Lmao

The bottom line is you like OVERPRIME, for better or for worse. Anyone who liked PARAGON prefers predecessor.
Última edición por Satyr; 15 DIC 2022 a las 10:08 a. m.
Izzy 15 DIC 2022 a las 10:26 a. m. 
Im a 'Pred fanboy' and i have not left a review, i check here time to time to see how the playerbase is enjoying the game as opposed to Predecessor, i see a LOT of complaints by the players here about real issues with the game and matchmaking queues and whatnot.


I find it hilarious that OP gamers first clapback is always the playerbase numbers..
Firstly.. OP is FTP... of course its going to have higher numbers.. it should have over 10 times the numbers. But numbers dont mean everything.. a cheap prosstitute has a lot more clients than an expensive one, but we all know which one is superior ;)

Secondly.. the vast majority of OP playerbase is the asian players, who stereotypically enjoy fast paced action hack and slash type of game, always have.

If you look at the numbers during USA peak for OP and Pred, man OP is nowhere near reaching the numbers it should, its been dying slowly for days whereas Pred will only continue to grow as more content is added.

Stop trying to manifest things into existence with the whole 'dead game' angle, its alive and kicking and ive never had to wait more than 2 minutes for a match and thats me at like 3am.
atomaweapon 15 DIC 2022 a las 10:29 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por SatyricL:
Publicado originalmente por Llama:
It is an absolute night and day difference, this game is significantly better. The UI is a very very clear example of Paragon dominating.

You are right, it is a night and day difference. Overprime runs like ♥♥♥♥, is designed to play like a hero brawler which is counter intuitive to all of its otherwise Traditional MOBA features, has voice acting that sounds like its out of a canceled toonami dub or an Oney cartoon, and has a clear focus on form over functon in one of the most important stages of development.

The real travesty is the sheer amount of copium some OP players are inhaling to fight a forum battle 90% of both communities dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about. Really shows that if you put enough icing on a ♥♥♥♥ pie, someone out there will eat it and love it.

Is OP a fun little hero brawler to pass the time? Sure. Is it better in any way in terms of functional design over Predecessor? No, and anyone capable of being objective about the two games can see that pretty clearly. Lmao

The bottom line is you like OVERPRIME, for better or for worse. Anyone who liked PARAGON prefers predecessor.

Bro you are ON the forum for Overprime. There's prolly not too many people here who have not played old Paragon. I played old paragon and it was one of my fav games of all time. I played BOTH games and both have people they are catering to. Pred feels slow and boring. Overprime quick and more ability skill based (till late game sadly). I like overprime better. Needs some tweaks on balance I think but for the most part it's a better game. But that's my opinion, why are you even in this forum?
R for Reload 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:03 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por atomaweapon:
Publicado originalmente por SatyricL:

You are right, it is a night and day difference. Overprime runs like ♥♥♥♥, is designed to play like a hero brawler which is counter intuitive to all of its otherwise Traditional MOBA features, has voice acting that sounds like its out of a canceled toonami dub or an Oney cartoon, and has a clear focus on form over functon in one of the most important stages of development.

The real travesty is the sheer amount of copium some OP players are inhaling to fight a forum battle 90% of both communities dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about. Really shows that if you put enough icing on a ♥♥♥♥ pie, someone out there will eat it and love it.

Is OP a fun little hero brawler to pass the time? Sure. Is it better in any way in terms of functional design over Predecessor? No, and anyone capable of being objective about the two games can see that pretty clearly. Lmao

The bottom line is you like OVERPRIME, for better or for worse. Anyone who liked PARAGON prefers predecessor.

Bro you are ON the forum for Overprime. There's prolly not too many people here who have not played old Paragon. I played old paragon and it was one of my fav games of all time. I played BOTH games and both have people they are catering to. Pred feels slow and boring. Overprime quick and more ability skill based (till late game sadly). I like overprime better. Needs some tweaks on balance I think but for the most part it's a better game. But that's my opinion, why are you even in this forum?
Ability based?
you understand that you get your abilitys off cooldown way faster in pred?
Jopposan 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:04 a. m. 
War between games is still going i see *gets popcorn*
VRH 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:11 a. m. 
idk why you all keep it with these posts... OP has 5 times more players than PR.
Who cares what people think, PR is developing slowly and only thing it has its better graphics and "its made by people who loved Paragon", which means ♥♥♥♥ when half of those people were toxic as hell in original Paragon, starting with main man RGSace
R for Reload 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:36 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por barbaZenza:
idk why you all keep it with these posts... OP has 5 times more players than PR.
Who cares what people think, PR is developing slowly and only thing it has its better graphics and "its made by people who loved Paragon", which means ♥♥♥♥ when half of those people were toxic as hell in original Paragon, starting with main man RGSace
You say this but Oveprime doesnt want to be paragon, Thats why they tried to rename all the characters and renamed the abilities, It was to take the assets and do its own thing which didnt work out for it did it?
Also you understand that Overprime is dying alot faster then Pred percentage wise.
Última edición por R for Reload; 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:38 a. m.
VRH 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por R for Reload:
Also you understand that Overprime is dying alot faster then Pred percentage wise.

Oh wow, you discovered F2P games, its like every F2P game, has a lot of players on launch, then it fells off... if you think same thing won't happen to PR, you are delusional
Satyr 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:50 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por atomaweapon:
Pred feels slow and boring. Overprime quick and more ability skill based (till late game sadly). I like overprime better. Needs some tweaks on balance I think but for the most part it's a better game. But that's my opinion, why are you even in this forum?

If you think Pred is slow and boring, then you thought Paragon was slow and boring. The only thing that changed is that you are comparing it to a scuffed hero brawler now.
No one is telling you to play pred instead of overprime. I don't really care which you like better.

But if your argument is that "overprime is a better game then Pred" as if its not an opinion, and instead an objective fact, then yeah, you are coping. Objectively, Pred is a better designed game. Thats not an opinion, thats an actual fact. I could give you a list of reasons why thats an objective fact, but chances are you are already posturing to take any objective discussion of the two as a team sports debate.

I have more than enough experience playing both, along with the original paragon to feel comfortable discussing either game in their forums. Bigger question is why are you on the forums going to bat for a clearly unhinged trollpost instead of playing the game you like so much?
Última edición por Satyr; 15 DIC 2022 a las 11:53 a. m.
R for Reload 15 DIC 2022 a las 12:10 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por barbaZenza:
Publicado originalmente por R for Reload:
Also you understand that Overprime is dying alot faster then Pred percentage wise.

Oh wow, you discovered F2P games, its like every F2P game, has a lot of players on launch, then it fells off... if you think same thing won't happen to PR, you are delusional
Every game player base falls off
thats a stupid arguement but pred falls alot slower.
Seiren 15 DIC 2022 a las 12:27 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por R for Reload:
Also you understand that Overprime is dying alot faster then Pred percentage wise.

Price increase to $20 today, population that is always 2-5x smaller depending on time of day, and difficulty finding matches outside of NA and EU paint a more realistic picture of where Predecessor stands. They should have launched as F2P or delayed. We don't have EGS data either, but Overprime currently shows in the store's extended most played list and Predecessor does not. I imagine EGS numbers are smaller for both games than Steam, but who really knows without any data.

Good developers can make bad decisions when launching a game. Perfect example is Fangs, which has more experienced devs with some serious notoriety. The difference here is that Omeda has less long term resources and experience. They will need to do more than ride the Paragon nostalgia wave.

Gamers tend to not look at these situations with any serious level of logic. We don't have great insight into the dev costs of either project or support services like servers. We also have no idea how much revenue each project has generated since launch vs these operating costs.

Less players doesn't mean that Predecessor can't come out ahead in the long run but the other factors raise some serious concerns. Waiting until March to go F2P (at the earliest? could be longer) seems like bad judgement. This conversation would be a lot more interesting if both games were F2P.
R for Reload 15 DIC 2022 a las 12:30 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Seiren:
Publicado originalmente por R for Reload:
Also you understand that Overprime is dying alot faster then Pred percentage wise.

Price increase to $20 today, population that is always 2-5x smaller depending on time of day, and difficulty finding matches outside of NA and EU paint a more realistic picture of where Predecessor stands. They should have launched as F2P or delayed. We don't have EGS data either, but Overprime currently shows in the store's extended most played list and Predecessor does not. I imagine EGS numbers are smaller for both games than Steam, but who really knows without any data.

Good developers can make bad decisions when launching a game. Perfect example is Fangs, which has more experienced devs with some serious notoriety. The difference here is that Omeda has less long term resources and experience. They will need to do more than ride the Paragon nostalgia wave.

Gamers tend to not look at these situations with any serious level of logic. We don't have great insight into the dev costs of either project or support services like servers. We also have no idea how much revenue each project has generated since launch vs these operating costs.

Less players doesn't mean that Predecessor can't come out ahead in the long run but the other factors raise some serious concerns. Waiting until March to go F2P (at the earliest? could be longer) seems like bad judgement. This conversation would be a lot more interesting if both games were F2P.
I get matches within 4 minutes from aus during the date.
I doubt EPIC games store really has that many players.
Pred doesnt wanna overwelm themselves before a full release.
Pred if they can get onto consoles first will give them a big huge advantage, Specially because unlike overprime, They already have controller support.
Seiren 15 DIC 2022 a las 12:41 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por R for Reload:
Pred doesnt wanna overwelm themselves before a full release.
Pred if they can get onto consoles first will give them a big huge advantage

1. Interesting narrative that I doubt the devs share.
2. Both teams have console dev kits - Overprime already has a team dedicated to porting it over. It's anyone's guess who will manage to get a stable, well tested and advertised build out first. Crossplay will be another factor that presents a few hurdles.

Too much conjecture at this point.
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