Paragon: The Overprime

Paragon: The Overprime

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tizeY 2021 年 12 月 21 日 下午 9:01
This game was pretty cool, 5 years ago.
Stop digging this corpse up every once in a while, just let it rot in peace.
-No Visual improvement
-No Api improvements
-Worse Licensing agreement than Epic games
-Korean Publisher, F2P definitely not p2w no Kap
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Sutherus 2022 年 1 月 22 日 下午 6:24 
引用自 Hosenbund
what is the other devs/publishers? only epic with paragon existed yet xD
fault is a joke.. its like a fan project and it never really took off.. the game was just bad. paragon wasnt bad.
this game plays good.. try it out.. u talk like they handle it like bless online

I did play Paragon. It wasn't great. It could've been a lot better than it was if Epic had taken their time and resources to do it properly but they didn't. They just tried to hop onto the last cart of the MOBA bandwagon when everyone and their mom was doing it and they missed the hype train entirely. What I really want back is MxM, which was actually a great game with novel features, but it died bc they couldn't attract enough players in the saturated market of the time.

Fault is probably the one iteration that went further than any other as of now. Yeah it was pretty bad the last time I checked but at least it looked more like a game than the others. You're just flat out wrong, though. There were others. I'm not sure if it's the complete list but on Lanepushinggames[lanepushinggames.com] you can see at least some of the games that came from Paragon. I could swear I've seen more than that but I might be wrong.
spekulatius 2022 年 1 月 23 日 上午 11:18 
引用自 Sutherus
@Hosenhound It's not about the game's concept. This is literally the exact same game under a different name. Notice how nobody's saying ♥♥♥♥ like 'this is basically Smite' or 'we don't want 3D LoL'. It's specifically 'Let Paragon die', a game that's died several times now under different devs/publishers bc it was so bad.
Im definitely not with you there buddy. Paragon was great even in its dying days I still played it. Paragon remakes have been a thing since years ago and people are surprised saying "this is basically paragon" of course, its a remake. I have high hopes for Predecessor, I agree with their vision.
Death 2022 年 1 月 23 日 上午 11:53 
paragon was never good and if this game doesn't do dramatic changes to paragon it will never be good either. but as always, nostalgia is strong and it only gets stronger with time.

the only people who think paragon was good are nostalfags who can't accept the fact that paragon was a complete failure because the gameplay was never properly designed.
Staxx_Red 2022 年 1 月 23 日 下午 2:46 
It's funny because the same ppl who claims Paragon was bad are the same ppl that wasn't good at Paragon.

Epic RELUCTANTLY shut down Paragon. So much, that they released millions of dollars worth of assets in hopes of someone else to carry the mantle.

Even the original creator, Steve Superville is back on board to help advise Predecessor .

I played Overprime tho and I gotta say, it's fun af
Spectral B4dger 2022 年 1 月 23 日 下午 3:53 
引用自 Death
paragon was never good and if this game doesn't do dramatic changes to paragon it will never be good either. but as always, nostalgia is strong and it only gets stronger with time.

the only people who think paragon was good are nostalfags who can't accept the fact that paragon was a complete failure because the gameplay was never properly designed.
I really dig your mature approach and how you listed all the reasons why the game wasn't properly designed and how they should improve it instead.
Spectral B4dger 2022 年 1 月 23 日 下午 3:58 
引用自 oglionheartx
It's funny because the same ppl who claims Paragon was bad are the same ppl that wasn't good at Paragon.

Epic RELUCTANTLY shut down Paragon. So much, that they released millions of dollars worth of assets in hopes of someone else to carry the mantle.

Even the original creator, Steve Superville is back on board to help advise Predecessor .

I played Overprime tho and I gotta say, it's fun af
I'm playing OP too and agree with you. it's rough around the edges, some heroes are unbalanced (looking at you Bea), animations are not so great in certain situations, the map is a bit messy imo and the GUI could be further improved but overall it scratches that itch for old Paragon.
polishness is what it lacks but I agree, they did a good job and game is pretty fun.
spekulatius 2022 年 1 月 27 日 上午 9:56 
引用自 Death
paragon was never good and if this game doesn't do dramatic changes to paragon it will never be good either. but as always, nostalgia is strong and it only gets stronger with time.

the only people who think paragon was good are nostalfags who can't accept the fact that paragon was a complete failure because the gameplay was never properly designed.


I ain't about to try to reason with a 12 year old but there was and is nothing like Paragon and the game was good even in it's worst state and there are a lot of people who agree with me about the fun in Paragon, more so than your insubstantial opinion. Even if they did some changes, it was in beta and that's the point. Even if they weren't listening to the community, if they stuck with it and if it wasn't for Fortnite and other things, I think they would have reached a point in which they would have to listen to the community to improve the game and it would have been great, with today's twitch meta. Now I'm still hoping Predecessor is doing all the right things to make their game a success. Mostly people who didn't understand the game and were bad at it would disagree.
最后由 spekulatius 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 27 日 上午 9:56
Sutherus 2022 年 1 月 27 日 下午 12:09 
引用自 sYnchrø
Mostly people who didn't understand the game and were bad at it would disagree.

How could anyone dislike the game I like? Must be because they're n00bz! There is no other explanation!
最后由 Sutherus 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 27 日 下午 12:09
Typisch 2022 年 1 月 27 日 下午 12:43 
引用自 SimplyRedie
引用自 RadeonPro
Paragon died because they care more about hackfortnite , they didn't even care enough to make the game playable offline.
Name moba playable offline
Battleborn
spekulatius 2022 年 1 月 27 日 下午 12:56 
引用自 Sutherus
引用自 sYnchrø
Mostly people who didn't understand the game and were bad at it would disagree.

How could anyone dislike the game I like? Must be because they're n00bz! There is no other explanation!

It's not disliking it, it's saying it's bad. The game is still good even if you dislike it or you're bad at it.
最后由 spekulatius 编辑于; 2022 年 2 月 2 日 下午 3:25
Hosenbund 2022 年 2 月 2 日 上午 8:03 
引用自 Sutherus
引用自 Hosenbund
what is the other devs/publishers? only epic with paragon existed yet xD
fault is a joke.. its like a fan project and it never really took off.. the game was just bad. paragon wasnt bad.
this game plays good.. try it out.. u talk like they handle it like bless online

I did play Paragon. It wasn't great. It could've been a lot better than it was if Epic had taken their time and resources to do it properly but they didn't. They just tried to hop onto the last cart of the MOBA bandwagon when everyone and their mom was doing it and they missed the hype train entirely. What I really want back is MxM, which was actually a great game with novel features, but it died bc they couldn't attract enough players in the saturated market of the time.

Fault is probably the one iteration that went further than any other as of now. Yeah it was pretty bad the last time I checked but at least it looked more like a game than the others. You're just flat out wrong, though. There were others. I'm not sure if it's the complete list but on Lanepushinggames[lanepushinggames.com] you can see at least some of the games that came from Paragon. I could swear I've seen more than that but I might be wrong.

yes i see and know all those paragon "clones" from ur link.. most of them are not even playable or we got no new infos since months or years.. which is my point. so idk what u want
overprime was playable and its good.. and it will release soon
Royal 2022 年 2 月 7 日 上午 1:48 
引用自 tizeY
引用自 ele
Htf can you pay to win in a moba?

The initial base concept of Paragon required you to purchase Ingame Cards which functioned as Item Purchases for your Characters, you built decks and you had RNG in which cards you got out of the Packs. Said packs could be purchased with real money if memory serves and getting a good combination of DMG, Mobility, evasion and Penetration on an AD carry took a while. Ability Power initially didn't share the Power Value so getting 2 Decks took longer. Like playing Bruiser? Well guess 3 decks.
So the Initial Concept did indeed provide benefits for people using Real money to purchase ingame currency or boosters to acquire said currency quicker, to better the odds by flipping the slotmachine that was the deckbuilding.

I didn't even enjoy the CBT that they did last month but at least have a clue what this game is first

You are talking about Paragon mechanics not OP mechanics
Chibbs 2022 年 3 月 10 日 上午 7:05 
引用自 Hosenbund
what is the other devs/publishers? only epic with paragon existed yet xD
fault is a joke.. its like a fan project and it never really took off.. the game was just bad. paragon wasnt bad.
this game plays good.. try it out.. u talk like they handle it like bless online

Calling Fault „a joke“ is utter nonsense. You probably haven’t looked at it in several months. It plays really smooth, is very balanced and the EU community is big enough to not wait longer than 5 minutes in the evenings.
It‘s probably far from being perfect, but definitely a lot of fun.
The only real bad thing about it right now is it’s low variety of champs. I can live with that for now, hoping they will release more frequently (as they stated earlier this year) and also looking forward to OP and especially predecessor.
Still I felt the need to interfere with such a drastic and simply untrue statement.
Royal 2022 年 3 月 10 日 上午 7:07 
引用自 Chibbs
引用自 Hosenbund
what is the other devs/publishers? only epic with paragon existed yet xD
fault is a joke.. its like a fan project and it never really took off.. the game was just bad. paragon wasnt bad.
this game plays good.. try it out.. u talk like they handle it like bless online

Calling Fault „a joke“ is utter nonsense. You probably haven’t looked at it in several months. It plays really smooth, is very balanced and the EU community is big enough to not wait longer than 5 minutes in the evenings.
It‘s probably far from being perfect, but definitely a lot of fun.
The only real bad thing about it right now is it’s low variety of champs. I can live with that for now, hoping they will release more frequently (as they stated earlier this year) and also looking forward to OP and especially predecessor.
Still I felt the need to interfere with such a drastic and simply untrue statement.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1106750 speaks for itself, Fault jumped the gun and paid the price

With OP now being delayed Pred might actually be the first polished release
Hosenbund 2022 年 3 月 18 日 上午 10:06 
引用自 Chibbs
引用自 Hosenbund
what is the other devs/publishers? only epic with paragon existed yet xD
fault is a joke.. its like a fan project and it never really took off.. the game was just bad. paragon wasnt bad.
this game plays good.. try it out.. u talk like they handle it like bless online

Calling Fault „a joke“ is utter nonsense. You probably haven’t looked at it in several months. It plays really smooth, is very balanced and the EU community is big enough to not wait longer than 5 minutes in the evenings.
It‘s probably far from being perfect, but definitely a lot of fun.
The only real bad thing about it right now is it’s low variety of champs. I can live with that for now, hoping they will release more frequently (as they stated earlier this year) and also looking forward to OP and especially predecessor.
Still I felt the need to interfere with such a drastic and simply untrue statement.


How is it nonsense? Fault has 100 concurrent players most of the time.. at prime time it goes up to 200
i mean believe what u want but its very very unlikely that the player numbers magically go up again
im not someone who calls games dead fast.. but for a competetive game this is just dead. balanced matchmaking and decent games are almost impossible with such numbers.. who wants to jump on a train like that?
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