Rework/Buff for the Salt Scoop

[Thad Chundercock]

I understand the Salt Scoop was overpowered before, but the current version is barely worth making. Just being able to make 1 free salt each rest doesn't really mean much.

My idea for a rework is to add a more efficient recipe for anything that involves salt. If someone is assigned to the pot with a salt scoop, make it so they can craft 2 pieces of food with a single piece of salt. 2 pork chops can be made with 1 piece of salt as long as the salt scoop is equipped.

[Heretical_Cactus]

I think it should work like the various equipments that give a chance to refund objects when crafting

[Thad Chundercock]

Originally posted by Heretical_Cactus:

I think it should work like the various equipments that give a chance to refund objects when crafting

The ladle already sort of does that. The salt scoop was nerfed too hard ,and should be more effective in my opinion. At least bring it to where salt is more efficient, instead of just making 2 salt each rest.

[Blue Horus]

or making more salt per rest...

[Thad Chundercock]

Originally posted by Blue Horus:

or making more salt per rest...

Maybe, but then it's not really a choice of using the scoop or the ladle (which should also be buffed imo). All you have to do is remember to use the ladle when cooking, and scoop when resting. Making it an effect while cooking would make more sense with the description of the scoop.

[Ninth Hour]

Originally posted by Chimmi Senpai:

Maybe, but then it's not really a choice of using the scoop or the ladle...

It is possible to use both without having to switch between them constantly. Simply have more than one cook. One with the salt scoop, assigned to the Cooking Pot (so that you get salt after rest), and another with the ladle. When you click on the Cooking pot to prepare a meal, you can choose which Cook you want to use. It doesn't matter if that person is at the pot. He/she can still produce meals.

From a gameplay perspective, it is cumbersome to divide up the benefits between two items but this is a workaround.

[Thad Chundercock]

Originally posted by Ninth Hour:

Originally posted by Chimmi Senpai:

Maybe, but then it's not really a choice of using the scoop or the ladle...

It is possible to use both without having to switch between them constantly. Simply have more than one cook. One with the salt scoop, assigned to the Cooking Pot (so that you get salt after rest), and another with the ladle. When you click on the Cooking pot to prepare a meal, you can choose which Cook you want to use. It doesn't matter if that person is at the pot. He/she can still produce meals.

From a gameplay perspective, it is cumbersome to divide up the benefits between two items but this is a workaround.

Ok, I see what you mean by the method, and it does help work as a workaround. Still, I do think the salt scoop needs a major buff so it's not just more salt. I also just really like the idea of the scoop being a tool to make more efficient use of the salt you have. Would be really helpful for very large troops.

For example, I have a troop of about 11 people, 3 bears, 2 alphas, 3 wolves, a caveman, some molerats (who reproduce sometimes), and around 9 livestock boars. The boars are good for food, but would be better if the salt was also more efficient.

Also, this troop was made before the Salt scoop was nerfed, and was able to cook meat without any salt.

[Solstius]

I feel like that even if they bring the original Salt Scoop back, it still won't be enough to address resource expenditure issues. Only benefit would be that you can be more efficient in saving item storage as you move. Otherwise, it'll still be broken.

That doesn't mean that we can't buff the current Salt Scoop. What they could do for a buff is have the Cook equipped with the Scoop acquire +1 salt based on their rank as a cook on top of the general +2 Salt acquisition. This way, if you're at Master Rank, you'd generate an extra +4 salt on top of the normal +2. Novice Cook is required as a Rank in order to generate the +2 Salt per rest anywho so ignore that.

[Heretical_Cactus]

Maybe they should bring back the scoop to what it was, but increase the amount of salt needed for every recipe, and to offset the change increase the availability of salt

[Solstius]

Originally posted by Heretical_Cactus:

Maybe they should bring back the scoop to what it was, but increase the amount of salt needed for every recipe, and to offset the change increase the availability of salt

Dat'd be too much of a change up. Doing that makes the early game harder for players. In the current state of the game, the early and mid game are fine as is for the most part. We need the game's later stages to be addressed.