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What potential do you see ?
Theres nothing new or ground breaking in this game, it might have some loyal fans but in no way will this ever have a massive cult following like Warhammer.
Im not sure if you're trolling or serious.
Everything in the game is well crafted and thought through with care and love.
How do you think the Dev's of mount and blade or even total war started? They started as a new, small underfunded studio :)
And as for the potential, I made a list with potential sequels :)
thought through ? 90% of the dungeons the 1st few years were 1 and done, they just recently changed that
Every poi was 1 and done. no replayability, tiny map, at release they said 32 total areas and now its done at how many 7 ?
Hit boxes are terrible, animations are terrible, color scheme is horrid, a white box with a white cursor in a white blizzard ??
Companion AI is the worst ive ever seen,
search the forums for " broken " see what everyone but you is really saying
27 pages of " broken "
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=broken&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
how are myslef and alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll those people wrong and your the only 1 whos right ?
the pathfinding is disaterous, click on the opposite side of a bridge from 3 inches away and your troop slams int the side of the bridge, same with border crossings, you have to click tiny increments to get across anything
the lack of trades and jobs in camp is just sad, all those animals and no1 to care for them or their needs ? no specialized food 4 animals, no seperate skill tree....
The game is small, the vision is small which is fine for a small team but you coming in here talking like they are capable of AAA numbers sequels and customers is really dillusional.
Next are you going to say it can make movies to rival MCU ?
just accept it for what it is and intended to be, a tiny cute game with nothing new and exciting to offer
I like the game, i bought it and played ptolly 200 hours in it but lets be real, it is what it is no matter how much you want it to be more.
no offence to you or the game but it is what it is imo
I guess we just like different kind of games. Im comparing this game to most of the other games being released on steam and I think it's aeons better than 95% of releases the last 5 years.
If you benchmark wartales against something, try giving an example of a game that does things better.
To your points:
Dungeons, the dungeons/tombs/mines/rat holes I've encountered since release are pretty varied and fun. I think there is a decent amount.
POI, I like how it's 1 and done, guess it's a matter of taste.
Replayability, im just replaying since launch. Last time I played was around a year ago in EA and im having a blast trying out the new areas and doing a different party composition.
Amount of Areas and "promises" - this game has more playtime and is larger than 90% of games on steam - you can easily net in hundreds of hours. So i strongly disagree with this point. As for what you believe they promised, I cant speak to that, as I have not seen their promise my self.
Hit boxes, I think they're just fine - actually on par with battle brothers, if not better.
Animations, colors etc. all those things are subjective and is not really a matter of right/wrong. Some people like a cupcake, others don't - you don't like the colors and that's perfectly valid - however, I disagree and think they're very good.
Companion AI, I think it works as intended, having to protect them in battles makes it more fun - would be too easy if you could control them.
Forum writing "broken" - Wartale has been in EA for a long time, the point of it being fixing broken things. That people tell the dev's how to improve the game and fix broken things is good imo and I think the dev's have improved an insane amount since last time I played.
You being wrong and me being right, I never said you were wrong or that I was right. Im articulating and making arguments for my point of view, as you are - which is good :)
Pathfinding, i've not experienced - during my close to 200 hours so far - the problems with pathfinding your're describing. I click one time on the opposite side of a bridge, and my party goes across it, no problem, no weird movements etc.
Lack of jobs/professions, I strongly disagree with this point, I think the job system is awesome and really adds to immersion and most dev's dont implement systems like this into their games, so im really happy that the Wartales dev's went the extra mile.
The game is small - I strongly disagree. Again, there are hundreds of hours of gametime already in Wartales - if you think that's a "small" game, maybe MMO games are more your jam.
The devs being able to rival "AAA titles" in the future, I already think they're pretty close with this game. If they continue having success, stay true to realtime world map/turnbased combat combined with RPG elements, as well as systems and if they get larger budgets for sequels, im actually almost certain they will equal mount and blade, total war etc. at some point. Like I said, I think this is already close to being as good as mount and blade/warhammer 3.
Doing movies, I think that would be a bad idea, at least for the foreseeable future. Maybe when they have millions of gamers knowing about them and their games :)
Accept the game for what it is, being tiny and cute - again I strongly disagree - the game is enormous in scope and execution. This is not completely subjective though, you can easily compare the game size and amount of hours that can be played, to other games on steam. I think you will come to my position with a bit of research :)
https://youtu.be/ny8piyFbLfQ
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=colors&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=wrong+with+this+game&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=fix&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=horrible&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1527950/discussions/search/?q=pathfinding&gidforum=5296777170374434225&include_deleted=1
Theres even a post from the father of a color blind CHILD asking for a simple change to color blind kids can play... the devs didnt ever even reply..... about a child wanting to play, not even a simple reply !!!!!!!!
i could link all its issues here like those but my time is too precious, reasarch EVERY thing you like about it on the furums and there will be at least 15 pages of people who dont. the majority cant lie, the single voice can convince itself its right even when everyone else proves it isnt,
So those 1000's of complaints are all wrong and you having done ZERO research are the only1 whos right ????
So is everyone else that has complained about it for years on the forums that the Devs have NEVER replied to !!
have fun in this tiny dumpster fire
goodbye
When a game get 91% positive reviews and 20k players simultaneously, you can't say he is the only one loving this game.
Of course things can be improved and I totally agree with the pathfinding issue you mentionned. But be honnest, this game is a huge success.
Because a rogue is expected to have a dagger, to 'throw' it and not hit or do damage made the game confused and broken.
Let's not ignore that he's using a search of keywords (in which many of the results don't even support his point) that have been used on a forum that spans the 2 year history of the games existence, including the pre release demo and Early Access, much of which, if not the majority has been addressed already or will be in the future.
You can do the exact same thing on every game forum and get the same results.
Some games might not be for everyone, and yes, there are still things that can be improved and expanded upon, but let's not start making bad faith arguements and telling people that are enjoying the game that they're wrong just because you personally do not enjoy the game.
Cheers,
James
He's not wrong for enjoying what he's enjoying, but when you use your own enjoyment as a benchmark to how ''amazing'' something is, whether it's a movie, show, game or any other form of media, i'd argue that's as much a bad faith as anything else. Too much positive is as bad as too much negative. He's quite clearly very high on copium and again, it's fine if he enjoys the game. I do too, that's why I bought the game.
But saying the game has hundreds of hours is, I guess technically true, but if you wanna get really into it, most games have hundreds of hours of content if you're willing to do the same thing over and over again. I think Wartales gives the illusion of a lot of ''options'', but when it comes down to it, the only random feature are the bounties (which are just filler to earn money and are in no way interesting) and I believe the companions/recruits you can get. Everything else is static, so there's not much variety in playthroughs unless you really wanna go out of your way and call ''This time i wield a sword instead of a mace'' a lot of variety that warrants a ton of playthroughs.
I want to make it perfectly clear I do not dislike the game, quite the opposite. It's a great game and I feel no regrets having bought it. But this whole illusion of ''hundreds of hours of content!!'' as an argument is as bad as the Dying Light 2 devs saying their game is 800 hours long lol.
abd to compare it to the Warhammer franchise.... or think it will EVER be close is just pure insanity, thats like comparing a kids little league team with a 10-O winning little league season to a multi world series winning prof. team like the NYY which i also dont like.
So lets save the major awards and Goty accolades until its actually earned something
and for a game dev to make excuses for what the ppl are clearly stating over and over w/o addressing any of them just isnt genuine in my book
not every comment listed " has " to support my POV, the fact that so many over so many years and many on the same exact issue shouldnt be dismissed as fake news rather then dealt with head on
Hundreds of hours is not an argument necessarily that the game is good. It was a rebuttal to Dies fourth who said the game is "tiny" :)
I'm not using my own "benchmark", look at the reviews - they're extremely positive everywhere. You're even writing that you enjoy the game :)
I completely agree.
You can always find something negative, if you go looking for it. Some dislike mother therese, Ghandi etc. But instead of going out of your way to be offended, try looking for the good - this will probably lead to overall more enjoyment in most games.
Not to say valid critique is bad. I think it's good because it enables dev's to fix and improve - but most of your arguments are weird and/or wrong.
This isnt about discreditng the game, for its size and scale its ok
It however even in your opinion all the OP has claimed it to be.
also 91% approval isnt the same as 91% of the ppl who rated it feels EXACTLY like the OP has claimed it is,
Like every other game it just means 91% of the people who reviewed it chose that its better than 50% not bad.