so stealing it feels bad

[ELL]

when ever i steal stuff it never feels worth the risk am i doing it wrong im robbing high value carts i have a allot of run faster stuff but the guard just camp on choke points and i just feel i could make more doing contracts but i would like to be a criminal

[Silent]

I mostly just steal recipes and I do that more to fill out the crime path and to level up thief professions.

[halcyan2]

Originally posted by Silent:

I mostly just steal recipes and I do that more to fill out the crime path and to level up thief professions.

I also mainly steal recipes.

The nice thing about stealing recipes (or components) is they will get used up. Though to be fair, it's easy enough to use the Camp Chest to launder items.

when ever i steal stuff it never feels worth the risk am i doing it wrong

I agree with Silent.

In the early game, stealing lets you get free stuff (i.e. saves you Krowns). However, earning money isn't that hard in the game (especially with the Tavern DLC) so stealing quickly becomes:

1. A way to advance your progress along the Crime and Chaos path
2. Earn Thief profession XP

So I do stealing mainly for those reasons, not because I want to save on Krowns.

[ELL]

Originally posted by Silent:

I mostly just steal recipes and I do that more to fill out the crime path and to level up thief professions.

yea i find that the hardest to level

[halcyan2]

Originally posted by ELL:

Originally posted by Silent:

I mostly just steal recipes and I do that more to fill out the crime path and to level up thief professions.

yea i find that the hardest to level

The easiest way to level up Thief is to stash that companion in the Tavern to steal from patrons.

Normally, Thief XP progression is slow because there are a fixed number of locks to open and you don't want to accumulate too much suspicion at a time so you only steal every now and then.

Tavern Thief XP tends to be quicker, from my experience.

[ELL]

Originally posted by halcyan2:

Originally posted by ELL:

yea i find that the hardest to level

The easiest way to level up Thief is to stash that companion in the Tavern to steal from patrons.

Normally, Thief XP progression is slow because there are a fixed number of locks to open and you don't want to accumulate too much suspicion at a time so you only steal every now and then.

Tavern Thief XP tends to be quicker, from my experience.

no i was more hopping somebody could tell me how to make crime pay

[HunterSilver]

Originally posted by ELL:

no i was more hopping somebody could tell me how to make crime pay

Laundering is the path to infinite quick, free money.

- Get a stack of high value items
- Sell it to a vendor
- Steal it back with a thief high enough level to not be auto-caught at 100% suspicion gain
- Put it in your camp chest
- Have your thief launder it
- Turn yourself in to the guard and pay the fine to reduce your suspicion level to 0%
- Repeat

The fine is less than what you can sell the items for.
I usually keep all of the rubies I get and use them for this. A stack of 100 is like 7k profit whenever I need quick cash. Skill training books are also great for this and can be stolen from any Brotherhood Training Camp.

Early on, in Tiltren, you can buy cheap stolen items from the bandits in Lakeside Camp near Stromkapp. Launder these and sell them for a profit. They always stock trade goods which have a good resale value. Never sell items that haven't been laundered, as this will add to your fine and reduce their sales value. Also avoid crafting with items that haven't been laundered, as you will be fined for destruction of stolen property.

On lower difficulties, you can steal items, launder them, and then talk to a guard and blame a companion to remove suspicion. Afterwards go to the jail and just buy them back. If you do this too often they will permanently leave your group though. On higher difficulties they will be executed, so avoid doing this.

If you've gotten to Gosenberg in the Grinmeer Province, you can go to the church and in the basement you can rest in the bed there to rapidly remove suspicion.

At higher levels of Crime and Chaos you actually don't want to remove your suspicion though, as each wanted level adds 5% crit chance to your entire party. So at 500% suspicion you have +25% crit chance on your entire party. You can use your banner flag in the camp to spend 100 influence to make guards not chase you if you're worried about dodging guards.

[LeftPaw]

I don't like how the guard always know where abouts you are. It sort of spoils the sneaking around them part and always boils down to you running away. No, not a good mechanic as it is.

[ROE]

I don't like much of anything about the crime path. My main problem with it is how it affects reinforcements on guard fights and assassination missions.

[HunterSilver]

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

I don't like how the guard always know where abouts you are. It sort of spoils the sneaking around them part and always boils down to you running away. No, not a good mechanic as it is.

High wanted stars greatly increases the detection range of guards. Use anything that reduces enemy detection range, such as the horse equipment, to counteract this. Outside of the very early game the guard shouldn't be catching you unless you want to be caught.

There's also a common camp conversation that can occur while wanted that can reduce detection range while on the map, this can help a lot if you don't have access to other sources of detection reduction.

[Nasarog]

I just did it to achieve the the goal of clearing that career path, that's it.

[Siliarus]

Originally posted by ROE:

I don't like much of anything about the crime path. My main problem with it is how it affects reinforcements on guard fights and assassination missions.

I understand the guard reinforcements, but how does having wanted level affect assassination missions?

[Nasarog]

Originally posted by Siliarus:

Originally posted by ROE:

I don't like much of anything about the crime path. My main problem with it is how it affects reinforcements on guard fights and assassination missions.

I understand the guard reinforcements, but how does having wanted level affect assassination missions?

Doesn't as far as I could tell.

[ROE]

Originally posted by Siliarus:

Originally posted by ROE:

I don't like much of anything about the crime path. My main problem with it is how it affects reinforcements on guard fights and assassination missions.

I understand the guard reinforcements, but how does having wanted level affect assassination missions?

Not sure unless I was contracted to kill the guards or something. The only thing I know is that when I went to fight them they had multiple rounds of reinforcements appear. I have heard that it might be a bug. idk.

ETA: Had a 4 star wanted level.

[LeftPaw]

They never really though stealing out did they. It looks like they threw in any old system and were done with it.

[HunterSilver]

Originally posted by ROE:

Not sure unless I was contracted to kill the guards or something. The only thing I know is that when I went to fight them they had multiple rounds of reinforcements appear. I have heard that it might be a bug. idk.

ETA: Had a 4 star wanted level.

This is just random difficulty, not something affected by your wanted level.